running in the cold

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I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

Run naked.

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Qtip said:

email hidden said:

I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

Run naked.

Butt only if you are female, under 125lbs, and run in my neighborhood.

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Quoted message said:

I have no problems getting out there in nice weather running. As it
gets colder I cant seem to find the right amount of clothing to
accomodate me while I am running. If I dress warm I feel like I am
over heating less than halfway through the run. If I dress to be
comfortable while I am running I am freezing in the beginning and find
it hard to get the motivation to keep going, and I end up with an
extremely sore throat. I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

You need to learn to trust in your own interior furnace! 🙂

I find a good rule-of-thumb for me is this:

If I am comfortable when I step outside, I'm overdressed. If
I am still feeling uncomfortably cold after a mile or so, I didn't
wear enough. In other words, shoot for a combo that starts
to feel right to you at the one mile mark.

Try to remember various combos that work well, so you
don't have to guess. Everyone is different, so my own rules
(such as going from shorts to tights at about 5C or about
40F) may not apply to you, but you can easily learn from
trial and error what is successful in your own case.

cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.absolutelyaccurate.com
Southern Ontario's Summer Race Series!

Quoted message said:

I have no problems getting out there in nice weather running. As it
gets colder I cant seem to find the right amount of clothing to
accomodate me while I am running. If I dress warm I feel like I am
over heating less than halfway through the run. If I dress to be
comfortable while I am running I am freezing in the beginning and find
it hard to get the motivation to keep going, and I end up with an
extremely sore throat. I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

Make use of your layers. One option is to dress comfortably or a little
on the cool side, then peel layers as you warm up. I've found the
weather may change as I run - either warmer or cooler, windier or less -
and I adjust appropriately - either adding or subtracting. If I'm too
cold to start, muscles may not work sufficiently well to start running
and generate heat, so I tend to start comfortably.

Another option is to warm up before you go outside.

Easy runs may require another layer than higher effort runs.

I wouldn't think a sore throat the next day is related to layers you're
wearing though. That could be another issue.

Just curious, but how do you do military physical training? What are you
considering "cold"?

Dot

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"Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Make use of your layers. One option is to dress comfortably or a little on
the cool side, then peel layers as you warm up. I've found the weather may
change as I run - either warmer or cooler, windier or less - and I adjust
appropriately - either adding or subtracting. If I'm too cold to start,
muscles may not work sufficiently well to start running and generate heat,
so I tend to start comfortably.

I use zip-neck turtleneck tops, zip up jackets/vests, etc. I can zip & unzip
along the way as conditions, wind, my own warming up & comfort dictate. If
it's "really cold" I wear an earband under my running hat -- another
easy-change -- either remove the earband or the cap & stuff in pocket or
running pack. And since I do wear a waist-pack, it's also easy to loop any
extra jacket or whatever through the strap. (you get used to looking like a
pack mule if you have to)

This has worked for me down to a balmy 15F & windy -- & I would have been ok
if it had been colder. I'm a slow runner -- there were a few out in shorts
that day!

It was around freezing today. I saw one man running in bicycle shorts, no
shirt, no hat (& he was also 1/2 bald), no gloves.
bj

email hidden said:

I have no problems getting out there in nice weather running. As it
gets colder I cant seem to find the right amount of clothing to
accomodate me while I am running. If I dress warm I feel like I am
over heating less than halfway through the run. If I dress to be
comfortable while I am running I am freezing in the beginning and find
it hard to get the motivation to keep going, and I end up with an
extremely sore throat. I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

I find this combo gives me a lot of options. At start of run in
25-40 degree weather I can cinch down the A&F hood, and pull down the
mittens on the brooks top as well as zip down the nylon pants. As I
warm up I find my hands get too warm first so I'll pull up the
mittens. Generally that little bit of heat flow control is enough to
keep me comfortable. If not, I can loosen the cotton hood or even
take it down. On warm days, up near that 40 degree level I can also
drop the Brooks hood and if that is not enough then I should not have
warn the cotton top in the first place.

I'm looking into getting a legit balaclava for some moisture
rebreathing. I'm sensitive to the cold air as you seem to be.

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Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

I ceratainly will. It's not often that the son of God posts to
rec.running.

tkb

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,

Like most other things I have not considered changing that which is
working rather well. I'll run in cold and at night but if it is
snowing or raining I go to the gym.

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Joe Humble said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,

Like most other things I have not considered changing that which is
working rather well. I'll run in cold and at night but if it is
snowing or raining I go to the gym.

What do/will you do if it starts snowing or raining during a run ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Wear something that covers your head and ears. Wear gloves as well.
If these aren't lacking then it will make the other adjustments easier.

Joe Humble said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Joe Humble said:

I run along the water so take that into consideration.

First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,

Like most other things I have not considered changing that which is
working rather well.

Hmmm, weren't you the one looking for a balaclava - since what you were
using wasn't working that well? Just planting a seed of thought: there's
frequently a better mousetrap somewhere - esp. with clothing since the
technology is changing so rapidly. Just keep in mind that as your
running horizons expand, you may need to expand your idea of what works.
But if what you're wearing works ok for your present runs, then have at
it. (I'd suffocate in what you're wearing at those temperatures, but I'm
not you.)

Also, most people take about 2 wk to adapt to the first colder
temperatures of the season (according to Armstrong), so you may be able
to wear fewer layers as the season progresses.

Quoted message said:

I'll run in cold and at night but if it is
snowing or raining I go to the gym.

What if it rains or snows in the middle of a race? Do you have any idea
how heavy a wet cotton sweatshirt can get? It's a shame you miss some of
the best times to run.

Dot

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Quoted message said:

What do/will you do if it starts snowing or raining during a run ?

This happened to me a couple times in the summer/fall. Granted, it was not a
hot day. I guess temp was around 55-60 F. That time of yr I run in legging
shorts and sport top or t-shirt. I was too far away from home to just turn
around and get out of the rain. Once I was at least 2 miles from home and it
started pouring. I waited under some trees for a little while, but I started
getting very cold and my muscles tightened. It was not going to stop
raining. I thought I was better off to run back than stand there and freeze.
I warmed back up as I ran. The worst part was not the rain, but how wet and
uncomfortable my shoes became.

Another time, my husband came out looking for me and I was able to get in
the car. I was further from home that time, so I was very lucky.

In the summer, I like running in a light cool mist. However, it often turns
to more than that.

Kay
my skating journal:
www.skatejournal.com

Kay said:

This happened to me a couple times in the summer/fall. Granted, it was not a
hot day. I guess temp was around 55-60 F. That time of yr I run in legging
shorts and sport top or t-shirt.

Did your nips get hard, and protrude from your shirt? If so, where can
I see them?

Military Pysical training is done for an hour and 15 minutes Monday
thru Friday. Normally it is done from 0630-0745. It consist of a 10
minute warm up, a few calistinec exercises, and 3 or 4 mile run 3 days
a week. The other 2 days is focused on strenght training. Normally it
is upper body work out of push ups, pull ups, and rope climbing. We
also do a combination of abdominal exercises to strengthen our core.
In the winter you are doing this in 25-40 degree temps.

Dot said:

Quoted message said:

I have no problems getting out there in nice weather running. As it
gets colder I cant seem to find the right amount of clothing to
accomodate me while I am running. If I dress warm I feel like I am
over heating less than halfway through the run. If I dress to be
comfortable while I am running I am freezing in the beginning and find
it hard to get the motivation to keep going, and I end up with an
extremely sore throat. I also sneeze for the next day or so. Is there
a way for me to run in the winter and not feel like I have the flu the
next day.

Make use of your layers. One option is to dress comfortably or a little
on the cool side, then peel layers as you warm up. I've found the
weather may change as I run - either warmer or cooler, windier or less -
and I adjust appropriately - either adding or subtracting. If I'm too
cold to start, muscles may not work sufficiently well to start running
and generate heat, so I tend to start comfortably.

Another option is to warm up before you go outside.

Easy runs may require another layer than higher effort runs.

I wouldn't think a sore throat the next day is related to layers you're
wearing though. That could be another issue.

Just curious, but how do you do military physical training? What are you
considering "cold"?

Dot

--
"A winner is just a loser who tried one more time." -Captain George M.
Moore, Jr., United States Air Force (retired),
http://www.avdlm.com/press.php?page=stories&storyid=1

On 4 Dec 2005 08:56:47 -0800, "sean" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Military Pysical training is done for an hour and 15 minutes Monday
thru Friday. Normally it is done from 0630-0745. It consist of a 10
minute warm up, a few calistinec exercises, and 3 or 4 mile run 3 days
a week. The other 2 days is focused on strenght training. Normally it
is upper body work out of push ups, pull ups, and rope climbing. We
also do a combination of abdominal exercises to strengthen our core.
In the winter you are doing this in 25-40 degree temps.

Frickin' pussys.

On 4 Dec 2005 08:56:47 -0800, "sean" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Military Pysical training is done for an hour and 15 minutes Monday
thru Friday. Normally it is done from 0630-0745. It consist of a 10
minute warm up, a few calistinec exercises, and 3 or 4 mile run 3 days
a week. The other 2 days is focused on strenght training. Normally it
is upper body work out of push ups, pull ups, and rope climbing. We
also do a combination of abdominal exercises to strengthen our core.
In the winter you are doing this in 25-40 degree temps.

Frickin' pussys.

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Joe Humble said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

On 2005-12-03, Joe Humble <[email hidden]> wrote:

> I run along the water so take that into consideration.
>
> First layer is a pair of brooks tights and an under armor full sleeve
> skin tight top. Over that I put a pair of loose nylon pants and a
> moderately tight Brooks top with hand mittens and an attached 1/2
> balaclava. Over that I put a loose A&F cotton sweatshirt with hood.

Seems like a lot to me. Have you considered wearing something windproof on
top ? That way maybe you wouldn't need so many layers. BTW, a cotton outer
layer is going to give you trouble if it snows or rains.

Cheers,

Like most other things I have not considered changing that which is
working rather well. I'll run in cold and at night but if it is
snowing or raining I go to the gym.

What do/will you do if it starts snowing or raining during a run ?

Cheers,

One can do some rather good local whether predictions by:

A) Looking outside
B) Listening to or reading the forecast
C) Looking at an animated Doppler view of precip in the region

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