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  1. Frank Boettcher said:

    I run with my sixty pound standard poodle almost every day and have
    been doing so for years. some comments:

    1. I don't run with her leashed, I run on trails and it would be too
    dangerous leashed. She more or less stays with me, especially when
    she gets tired. We do about 24 miles a week.

    I had a 135 lb Rottweiler, and we typically did about 2-3 walks
    (including sprints, runs), each about 1-2 miles, per day, ranging over
    a 4 square mile area.

    A leash ultimately proved to be out of the question for running and,
    eventually, became unnecessary for walking. For one, the dog was more
    civilized than most humans are and understood spoken language well
    enough that during times spent in residential areas I could tell him
    which streets to go on by name with him understanding and doing so.
    (Also, the dog was strong-willed and even had a tendency to grab the
    leash in his own mouth and run off with it, whether anyone was holding
    it or not).

    Trying to run in tandem with the leash connected was extremely awkward,
    particularly so when going through densely wooded forests, in which
    case it was basically out of the question.

    Quoted message said:

    2. I carry a lightweight leash with a snap shackle in case I meet
    someone on the trail I don't know (or she doesn't know) so I can reach
    down and hook her up. Fortunately most of the runners who use the
    trail know her and like her and don't mind her being off leash. Also
    use this leash to cross a couple of streets on the trail.

    Normally I just carried it in my hand. Wherever situations warranted,
    I'd put it back on. In fact, on some occasions when getting to certain
    points where it needed to be put on, he basically stopped and requested
    (by body language) for it to be put on. It took a while to recognize
    what he was saying the first few times he did that, because I've never
    seen or heard of a dog asking to have a leash put on him. Apparently he
    was thinking of it as being more of a bind than a restraint, because in
    fact on those occasions where we had disagreements about which was to
    go, the most effective way for me to impose my choice was to simply
    drop the leash and walk off, at which point he eventually followed
    (sometimes not until about 100 yards or so).

    There was one case when, while on one side of the street, he insisted
    on stopping, backing up, crossing over and lifting a leg to give a
    certain spot a whiz, before crossing back and coming back. That was
    funny as hell. I've never seen a dog behave like a Mr. Roboto style
    rec.runner troll (or whatever the hell It and It's incarnations call
    themselves these days), in that obvious a way, before.

    It was also fortunate that my olefactory sense is as acute as his was,
    or more. So I could pick up other dogs in the vicinity before he ever
    caught sight or wind of them and get the leash on, in time. Proximity
    to other dogs was one of the few occasions where the leash went back
    on, even though he usually tended to be well-behaved around them. It
    was interesting that in the presence of female dogs, he didn't bark,
    but utter syllables that came to sound more and more like English words
    and phrases. The "I want" part (presumably of "I want her"😉 eventually
    started became recognizeable.

    On one occasion when I played around and pretended to start running out
    the door without him, he came running behind making a strange yelping
    sound I never heard before. After a moment's reflection it suddenly
    dawned on me, he was saying the word "out! out! out!" repeatedly, but
    not getting the 't' in the word, pronouncing it, instead, like "oup".
    So, I sat him down and tested him for his ability to recognize and
    distinguish consonants, and sure enough, he was getting the "p"'s,
    "t"'s and "k"'s confused (hence, "kaw" and occasionally even "craw"
    evoked the same recognition and reply as "paw"😉. That made it clear why
    his utterances sounded so Wookie'ish: he wasn't hearing the consonants,
    so that to him, human speech sounded like a bunch of vowels and tones
    interspersed with arbitrary stops. And that's precisely how he sounded
    when he tried to pronounce words.

    On a few occasions, the words or phrases came out clearly, like "come
    on" or on one occasion when he actually addressed me by name and I had
    to look around to see who was there before I realized it came from him.
    (Normally, instead, he'd gesture the "come on" instead of making any
    sounds, actually jumping off the ground with his front legs so that he
    could make the "come on" gesture with the front paws. It also took a
    while before I recognized that, too).

    Quoted message said:

    4.I bring a jug of water (leave it in the truck for after the run)
    for the dog in the summer time and I have to cut down her mileage
    during the hottest part of the summer. Some days I don't take her if
    the creeks have dried up and she can't get cooled down.

    I didn't bring any water on our trips, but kept close watch over his
    condition. Usually, if I sense he was getting run down or just wanted
    to get back with him, I only needed to say the word "meat" or "food" or
    (if he was thirsty) "water" for him to understand what we were going
    back for.

    Quoted message said:

    5. The only times I have taken spills on the run is when she got
    behind me and I looked back and tripped over roots. Has happened three
    times in about ten years, but very painful. Don't let handling the
    dog distract you from watching what you are doing.

    On one occasion the dog slipped on ice and landed on his chest, which
    took the wind out of him. I was almost fast enough to catch and stop
    him in mid-fall, but not quite. He also had a tendency to want to
    insist on going out, even for 1-2 miles at a time, when the temperature
    was subzero. From what I was told, he never like that weather until he
    started walking with me on a regular basis. Then he actually insisted
    on it. On frequent occasion, he ended up complaining that his paws were
    too cold, stopping in mid course and raising it off the ground, so I
    had to take it in my hands and warm it up, and we'd usually end up
    returning straight back. Sometimes that even brought about an argument,
    though I don't know why the hell he would even *want* to go any further
    and not turn back if he was too cold. He certainly knew better and
    usually would insist on cutting walks short when he wasn't feeling
    good, but just as frequently, he's insist on pushing on even after it
    was clear he had hit the wall. I gave him plenty of leeway, because I
    do and did the same thing all the time and know by recognition that he
    wasn't going through anything worse than I routinely do. He was
    definitely a tough dog. In fact, the last day of his life before being
    executed by the vet due to an advanced stage of cancer, he went 4 miles
    with me.

    Quoted message said:

    5. For non running exercise, she loves to go after balls and frisbees.
    But the run is what she lives for.

    Rottweilers insist on walking and running everywhere all the time.
    Nobody can have one who isn't willing or able to go out 20, 30 or 40
    miles a week. If he had had his own way, he would have been out on 4-5
    walks a day, pushing upwards of 5-10 miles a day or more. I didn't know
    him until he was well into his 8's and 9's, in age. So, the demand for
    mileage wasn't quite as bad as it could have been.

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    Quoted message said:
    Frank Boettcher said:

    I run with my sixty pound standard poodle almost every day and have
    been doing so for years. some comments:

    1. I don't run with her leashed, I run on trails and it would be too
    dangerous leashed. She more or less stays with me, especially when
    she gets tired. We do about 24 miles a week.

    I had a 135 lb Rottweiler, and we typically did about 2-3 walks
    (including sprints, runs), each about 1-2 miles, per day, ranging over
    a 4 square mile area.

    A leash ultimately proved to be out of the question for running and,
    eventually, became unnecessary for walking. For one, the dog was more
    civilized than most humans are and understood spoken language well
    enough that during times spent in residential areas I could tell him
    which streets to go on by name with him understanding and doing so.
    (Also, the dog was strong-willed and even had a tendency to grab the
    leash in his own mouth and run off with it, whether anyone was holding
    it or not).

    Trying to run in tandem with the leash connected was extremely awkward,
    particularly so when going through densely wooded forests, in which
    case it was basically out of the question.

    Quoted message said:

    2. I carry a lightweight leash with a snap shackle in case I meet
    someone on the trail I don't know (or she doesn't know) so I can reach
    down and hook her up. Fortunately most of the runners who use the
    trail know her and like her and don't mind her being off leash. Also
    use this leash to cross a couple of streets on the trail.

    Normally I just carried it in my hand. Wherever situations warranted,
    I'd put it back on. In fact, on some occasions when getting to certain
    points where it needed to be put on, he basically stopped and requested
    (by body language) for it to be put on. It took a while to recognize
    what he was saying the first few times he did that, because I've never
    seen or heard of a dog asking to have a leash put on him. Apparently he
    was thinking of it as being more of a bind than a restraint, because in
    fact on those occasions where we had disagreements about which was to
    go, the most effective way for me to impose my choice was to simply
    drop the leash and walk off, at which point he eventually followed
    (sometimes not until about 100 yards or so).

    There was one case when, while on one side of the street, he insisted
    on stopping, backing up, crossing over and lifting a leg to give a
    certain spot a whiz, before crossing back and coming back. That was
    funny as hell. I've never seen a dog behave like a Mr. Roboto style
    rec.runner troll (or whatever the hell It and It's incarnations call
    themselves these days), in that obvious a way, before.

    It was also fortunate that my olefactory sense is as acute as his was,
    or more. So I could pick up other dogs in the vicinity before he ever
    caught sight or wind of them and get the leash on, in time. Proximity
    to other dogs was one of the few occasions where the leash went back
    on, even though he usually tended to be well-behaved around them. It
    was interesting that in the presence of female dogs, he didn't bark,
    but utter syllables that came to sound more and more like English words
    and phrases. The "I want" part (presumably of "I want her"😉 eventually
    started became recognizeable.

    On one occasion when I played around and pretended to start running out
    the door without him, he came running behind making a strange yelping
    sound I never heard before. After a moment's reflection it suddenly
    dawned on me, he was saying the word "out! out! out!" repeatedly, but
    not getting the 't' in the word, pronouncing it, instead, like "oup".
    So, I sat him down and tested him for his ability to recognize and
    distinguish consonants, and sure enough, he was getting the "p"'s,
    "t"'s and "k"'s confused (hence, "kaw" and occasionally even "craw"
    evoked the same recognition and reply as "paw"😉. That made it clear why
    his utterances sounded so Wookie'ish: he wasn't hearing the consonants,
    so that to him, human speech sounded like a bunch of vowels and tones
    interspersed with arbitrary stops. And that's precisely how he sounded
    when he tried to pronounce words.

    On a few occasions, the words or phrases came out clearly, like "come
    on" or on one occasion when he actually addressed me by name and I had
    to look around to see who was there before I realized it came from him.
    (Normally, instead, he'd gesture the "come on" instead of making any
    sounds, actually jumping off the ground with his front legs so that he
    could make the "come on" gesture with the front paws. It also took a
    while before I recognized that, too).

    Quoted message said:

    4.I bring a jug of water (leave it in the truck for after the run)
    for the dog in the summer time and I have to cut down her mileage
    during the hottest part of the summer. Some days I don't take her if
    the creeks have dried up and she can't get cooled down.

    I didn't bring any water on our trips, but kept close watch over his
    condition. Usually, if I sense he was getting run down or just wanted
    to get back with him, I only needed to say the word "meat" or "food" or
    (if he was thirsty) "water" for him to understand what we were going
    back for.

    Quoted message said:

    5. The only times I have taken spills on the run is when she got
    behind me and I looked back and tripped over roots. Has happened three
    times in about ten years, but very painful. Don't let handling the
    dog distract you from watching what you are doing.

    On one occasion the dog slipped on ice and landed on his chest, which
    took the wind out of him. I was almost fast enough to catch and stop
    him in mid-fall, but not quite. He also had a tendency to want to
    insist on going out, even for 1-2 miles at a time, when the temperature
    was subzero. From what I was told, he never like that weather until he
    started walking with me on a regular basis. Then he actually insisted
    on it. On frequent occasion, he ended up complaining that his paws were
    too cold, stopping in mid course and raising it off the ground, so I
    had to take it in my hands and warm it up, and we'd usually end up
    returning straight back. Sometimes that even brought about an argument,
    though I don't know why the hell he would even *want* to go any further
    and not turn back if he was too cold. He certainly knew better and
    usually would insist on cutting walks short when he wasn't feeling
    good, but just as frequently, he's insist on pushing on even after it
    was clear he had hit the wall. I gave him plenty of leeway, because I
    do and did the same thing all the time and know by recognition that he
    wasn't going through anything worse than I routinely do. He was
    definitely a tough dog. In fact, the last day of his life before being
    executed by the vet due to an advanced stage of cancer, he went 4 miles
    with me.

    Quoted message said:

    5. For non running exercise, she loves to go after balls and frisbees.
    But the run is what she lives for.

    Rottweilers insist on walking and running everywhere all the time.
    Nobody can have one who isn't willing or able to go out 20, 30 or 40
    miles a week. If he had had his own way, he would have been out on 4-5
    walks a day, pushing upwards of 5-10 miles a day or more. I didn't know
    him until he was well into his 8's and 9's, in age. So, the demand for
    mileage wasn't quite as bad as it could have been.

    this was either the funniest or most worrisome post i've read in a long time

  3. THE VICAR said:

    this was either the funniest or most worrisome post i've read in a long time

    Yeah, in fact I was a little surprised when it didn't end "regards, THE
    VICAR".

  4. THE VICAR said:

    this was either the funniest or most worrisome post i've read in a long time

    Yeah, in fact I was a little surprised when it didn't end "regards, THE
    VICAR".

  5. "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    THE VICAR said:

    this was either the funniest or most worrisome post i've read in a long
    time

    Yeah, in fact I was a little surprised when it didn't end "regards, THE
    VICAR".

    No way. I'm far too lazy to type all that as a goof.

    Quoted message said:
  6. "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    THE VICAR said:

    this was either the funniest or most worrisome post i've read in a long
    time

    Yeah, in fact I was a little surprised when it didn't end "regards, THE
    VICAR".

    No way. I'm far too lazy to type all that as a goof.

    Quoted message said:
  7. Forcing dogs to jog with their owners should be a felony........at least
    until they evolve enough to tell you that they think jogging does
    nothing but fuel your narcissistic cravings.

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