Running shoe lacing?

Juho Kuusinen said:

I once found a web-site with a detailed explanation of various lacing
techniques. Not only three or four techniques to prevent heel slippage, fit
narrow feet or loosening high instep as on pagehttp://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=482but much more. The
site was especially for functional lacing methods of running shoes, not for
decorative purposes as pagehttp://www.shoe-lacing.com/shoelace/lacingmethods.htm. There was for example
several techniques to modify toe-box size. Unfortunately I've lost my
bookmarks and can't find the page any more. It might have been even on some
manufacturers site.

Now I would desperately need those advices for a Marathon next Sunday on
Alandhttp://www.marathon.aland.fi/showpage.asp?lng=3&pageID=19. Has anybody
else bookmark for those shoe lacing pages?

JK

Yes, several of us have.

Juho Kuusinen said:

Now I would desperately need those advices for a Marathon next Sunday on
Aland http://www.marathon.aland.fi/showpage.asp?lng=3&pageID=19. Has anybody
else bookmark for those shoe lacing pages?

Do you really think you can fight the wind by lacing your shoes in a
new fashion?:-)

Google, of course, is your best friend and the Lydiard lacing method
is perfect for everyone, but I once found a simple solution to a
temporary fitting problem at:

http://www.newbalance.com/techcenter/lacing.php

Anders

anders said:

Google, of course, is your best friend and the Lydiard lacing method
is perfect for everyone, but I once found a simple solution to a
temporary fitting problem at:

http://www.newbalance.com/techcenter/lacing.php

Anders

I'm not sure I buy this lacing BS. No matter how you wrap the laces
through the holes, it is still exerting the same pressure and pull on
the same stress points. I just don't see how it makes any difference.

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Juho Kuusinen said:

Now I would desperately need those advices for a Marathon next Sunday on
Aland http://www.marathon.aland.fi/showpage.asp?lng=3&pageID=19. Has
anybody
else bookmark for those shoe lacing pages?

Do you really think you can fight the wind by lacing your shoes in a
new fashion?:-)

What? Forecast for Sunday is only 25 knots wind straight against on the
second half of the marathon. Is that even a wind?

Quoted message said:

Google, of course, is your best friend and the Lydiard lacing method
is perfect for everyone, but I once found a simple solution to a
temporary fitting problem at:

http://www.newbalance.com/techcenter/lacing.php

And of course I forgot to mention that I had tried Google allready with no
luck. But that NB site you pointed out was probably the one I was looking
for, thanks! Unfortunately they have removed part of the lacing methods,
there were much more of them before if I remember right.

JK

Juho Kuusinen said:

Unfortunately they have removed part of the lacing methods,
there were much more of them before if I remember right.

JK

No it's actually quite fortunate, because you won't waste anymore time
on something so stupid.

Juho Kuusinen said:

What? Forecast for Sunday is only 25 knots wind straight against on the
second half of the marathon. Is that even a wind?

Quite possibly not; meteorologists would call it a "strong breeze".

Quoted message said:

And of course I forgot to mention that I had tried Google allready with no
luck. But that NB site you pointed out was probably the one I was looking
for, thanks! Unfortunately they have removed part of the lacing methods,
there were much more of them before if I remember right.

A short description of the particular foot/shoe problem that is making
you desperate right now could probably prompt more and better replies
than mine and TBR's; readers are more inclined to help out a fellow
runner with a familiar problem than to just help someone build up a
collection of links, if you know what I mean.

Anders

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Quoted message said:

A short description of the particular foot/shoe problem that is making
you desperate right now could probably prompt more and better replies
than mine and TBR's; readers are more inclined to help out a fellow
runner with a familiar problem than to just help someone build up a
collection of links, if you know what I mean.

For a few years ago I had a problem with Asics Gel-Kayno's toe-box size. By
then, I found (probaply from that NB site) a lacing method that gave a
considerable improvement. Now I am experiencing some top-of-foot pain. The
advantage with the former NB page was that there were several lacing methods
for a single problem to try. Even on the current pages there seems to be a
method for top-of-foot pain but when I just tried it I found that it felt a
bit too loose.

JK

Juho Kuusinen said:

For a few years ago I had a problem with Asics Gel-Kayno's toe-box size. By
then, I found (probaply from that NB site) a lacing method that gave a
considerable improvement. Now I am experiencing some top-of-foot pain. The
advantage with the former NB page was that there were several lacing methods
for a single problem to try. Even on the current pages there seems to be a
method for top-of-foot pain but when I just tried it I found that it felt a
bit too loose.

JK

Man, you sound like a fussy lil [censored]. My guess is that those are
nikes, and you like it up the [censored] at night? Am I right?

Dr. Frank Roosevelt. Phd
www.DrFDRsrunningclinics.org

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A web page I had marked some time back

Aha, try http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightfashionlacing.htm or
http://www.ava.org/laces.htm

Quoted message said:

For a few years ago I had a problem with Asics Gel-Kayno's toe-box
size. By then, I found (probaply from that NB site) a lacing method
that gave a considerable improvement.

One alternate lacing is basically skipping the first eyelet( closest to
your toes). This allows the toes more movement in the front of the box.
Some people experience neuromas because they go through the first notch
and the laces squeeze the toes together. There may be an alternate
lacing technique that also changes this.

Quoted message said:

Now I am experiencing some top-of-foot pain. The advantage with the
former NB page was that there were several lacing methods for a single
problem to try. Even on the current pages there seems to be a method
for top-of-foot pain but when I just tried it I found that it felt a
bit too loose.

I also skip one of the upper eyelets releasing some of the pressure and
I don't find them too loose. Believe me, I spend most of my life on
steep trails and if my lacing system did not work I'd have 10 black
toes.

As an additional thought, does your toe box have enough room both in
width and length or too heavy a sock eating up room?

-Doug

Sounds interesting.
But I wouldnt change anything for a marathon in short time.
Could cause excrutiating blisters if you havent tried a new
technique on a long run.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:34:29 -0400, "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

As an additional thought, does your toe box have enough room both in
width and length or too heavy a sock eating up room?

-Doug

And avoid using the ones you whackoff into, the stifness will chew up
your feet. Trust me, I know.

-DF

Juho Kuusinen said:

(...) Now I am experiencing some top-of-foot pain. The
advantage with the former NB page was that there were several lacing methods
for a single problem to try. Even on the current pages there seems to be a
method for top-of-foot pain but when I just tried it I found that it felta
bit too loose.

The Lydiard way of avoiding crisscross lacing is generally good for
high arches and problem spots on the top of the foot, but it may not
necessarily work in the case of an acutely sore point.

One possible last-ditch solution could be to use two short laces: lace
one downwards from the eyelets below the inflamed area and the other
upwards as usual from the eyelets above it. I'd think one should get a
secure fit with two pairs of eyelets unlaced, especially if one uses a
lace lock (aka "Marathonschnürung" in some parts of the world) on top
of the shoe.

There are also marathoners and ultrarunners who swear by elastic
laces: they supposedly never get too tight even when the foot swells a
size up.

Anyway, it probably goes down to a choice between an unavoidable, but
familiar pain and a quite possible, but unknown issue caused by doing
something untested in a marathon - but I don't want to sound like a
pessimist...

Anders