Safe , Legal Steroids?

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Its real.

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"mike" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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Pete

So which stuff works?

"mike" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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So which stuff works?

The expensive ones.

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Pete

"mike" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Safe depends on how you use them.

Legal depends on where you live.

David

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Legal depends on where you live.

David

U.S.

"mike" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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Legal depends on where you live.

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David

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U.S.

Intelligent use of AS in the US is safe but illegal.
In other Countries its probly legal, but perhaps not safe.

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Pete

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Intelligent use of AS in the US is safe but illegal.
In other Countries its probly legal, but perhaps not safe.

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Pete

Define intelligent use. <500mg's/week?

"msamson" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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Intelligent use of AS in the US is safe but illegal.
In other Countries its probly legal, but perhaps not safe.

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Define intelligent use. <500mg's/week?

Defenition of intelligent use;

A dosage that will give the desired effects without much, or serious, side
effects and not hazardous to your health.

500mg testosterone, taken by itself, might be a smart choice, unless you are
very sensetive to get gyno/water retention and response to testosterone is
mediocre. In that case "intelligent" would be the addition of an
anti-estrogen, or even better, AS that do not, or less, aromatize into
estrogens.

You can never say a certain dosage, like you mentioned, is intelligent use.
It might be that you respond a lot better to 750, without much side effects.
Maybe you have excellent results with 1000mg, without much side effects.

Perrhaps 500mg might not give side effects, but not everyone get good gains
with such a dose. Some will.
It *IS* however, always a smart thing to start with a low dosage on the
first cycle.
And in the case of testosterone, 500 is a good dose to start. 250 is to low
for a male, IMHO.

Injectables are always a smart choice. Orals should be taken briefly. 6-8
weeks. (except for Primo or Proviron)
For some people, a cycle of 400 Deca, with lets say, 20mg Anavar/day, is
more intelligent then 500mg testosterone, if one is sensetive to water
retention and gyno.

But, like i mentioned before, test with anti-estrogens is also an option in
that case.

Getting good results with a lot/nasty side effects is not smart.
Getting poor results without side effects is not smart.

Intelligen't "use" also means the use with regular blood tests.

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Pete

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And in the case of testosterone, 500 is a good dose to start. 250 is to low
for a male, IMHO.

Pete, so would you say a newbie male that takes sus250 is too low of a
dose? Should be upped to 500? Or just 250 stacked with 200-400 of
deca?

If a proper post cycle anti-est is used, will the person be able to
keep the gains long term?

"msamson" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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And in the case of testosterone, 500 is a good dose to start. 250 is to
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for a male, IMHO.

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Pete, so would you say a newbie male that takes sus250 is too low of a
dose?

Yes.
500 every 10 days is the minumum, IMO. I would go for 500, for 8 weeks.

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Or just 250 stacked with 200-400 of
deca?

Yes.
250 test with 200 Deca is a very good option. There will be less estrogens
in the system.

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If a proper post cycle anti-est is used, will the person be able to
keep the gains long term?

After a first cycle with 400-500mg used, i would say yes.
What i suggest is 2 weeks of HCG, then anti estrogens for 2 weeks.
In that 3th month, the AS are slowly tapering down while natural T goes up.
So you wont lose any mass in that 3th month, and start producing by your
self in the fourth.
You can also start using Primo the fourth month, but i doubt if that make
much of a difference after a first cycle with low dosages.

BTW, if 250+200 is used, take a double dose the first 2 weeks. Then the
regular dose for 4 weeks, then half the dosage the last 2 weeks.

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BTW, if 250+200 is used, take a double dose the first 2 weeks. Then the
regular dose for 4 weeks, then half the dosage the last 2 weeks.

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Pete

Hey Pete, thanks for the info. What would you recommend for a first
cycle if one was wanting more solid hard cut look with some size (but
less priority). I'm talking little water retention and want something
that whatever I gain, I lose minimal. Would it just be straight deca?

"msamson" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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BTW, if 250+200 is used, take a double dose the first 2 weeks. Then the
regular dose for 4 weeks, then half the dosage the last 2 weeks.

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Hey Pete, thanks for the info. What would you recommend for a first
cycle if one was wanting more solid hard cut look with some size (but
less priority). I'm talking little water retention and want something
that whatever I gain, I lose minimal. Would it just be straight deca?

With what you describe Deca, is good, yes.
Perhaps the addition of a few tabs Anavar would be even better. 15-20mg.
(Anavar is not as toxic as the other orals and does not aromatize at ALL...)

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Pete

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With what you describe Deca, is good, yes.
Perhaps the addition of a few tabs Anavar would be even better. 15-20mg.
(Anavar is not as toxic as the other orals and does not aromatize at ALL...)

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Pete

I did some d-bol 7 years ago. Excellent gains, but lost many. I also
received excellent gains with dbol and injected durabolin. would you
say that anavar is much safer oral than dbol?

"msamson" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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With what you describe Deca, is good, yes.
Perhaps the addition of a few tabs Anavar would be even better. 15-20mg.
(Anavar is not as toxic as the other orals and does not aromatize at
ALL...)

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I did some d-bol 7 years ago. Excellent gains, but lost many.

Heard that before.
With Dianabol, HCG+Nolvadex+Primo is always a good idea. (Winstrol or Anavar
are also good...)

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I also
received excellent gains with dbol and injected durabolin.

First tome i took Dianabol i stacked it with Deca. Good results.

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would you
say that anavar is much safer oral than dbol?

Its a little safer and doesnt convert to estrogen. OTOH, we are probably
talking about dosages ranging from 20-50mg/day i assume? Dianabol will
defenitely give better gains, but might be a little harder to come of.
Dianabol first and Anavar next is a VERY good idea. Always finish with AS
that dont aromatize.

For myself, i always like Primo injectables and Proviron post-cycle.

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Pete

The only "legal" steriods you can get in the US that would have any
body building effect have to be perscribed by a doctor. However, most
doctors haven't done the research that would prove to them that when
used properly, steroids can actually be very benneficial to the body.
If you want to learn how to use them properly, visit:
http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=40&pageNo=1&s=forumsSidebar

The steroid forum on t-nat is the most complete information you will
find anywhere, including plenty of articles written by Dan Duschane.

-Steve

http://www.vitaminstudies.com
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mike said:

Is this really possible or just spam? I see alot of [censored] in my email lately.

Steve said:

The only "legal" steriods you can get in the US that would have any
body building effect have to be perscribed by a doctor. However, most
doctors haven't done the research that would prove to them that when
used properly, steroids can actually be very benneficial to the body.
If you want to learn how to use them properly, visit:
http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=40&pageNo=1&s=forumsSidebar

The steroid forum on t-nat is the most complete information you will
find anywhere, including plenty of articles written by Dan Duschane.

-Steve

http://www.turdstudies.com

Dear Steve,

Aside from being a spamming cumstain, you appear unable to spell
Duchaine's name properly. Please eat [censored] and die.

"JMW" <> Aside from being a spamming cumstain, you appear unable to spell

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Duchaine's name properly.>>

Besides, Duchaine has been dead at least five years. How current is his
information?

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http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=40&pageNo=1&s=forumsSidebar

The steroid forum on t-nat is the most complete information you will
find anywhere, including plenty of articles written by Dan Duschane.

-Steve

http://www.vitaminstudies.com
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Much thanks for the link. I look forward to seeing how steroids can be
healthy if used properly.

"Fernando" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Duchaine's name properly.>>

Besides, Duchaine has been dead at least five years. How current is his
information?

Did the 'roids kill him?!?! I'm sure Bob "What's ur real name" Schuh will
say no, but we all know the truth......