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  1. Here's one I've never heard of before. While I'm not in the business,
    I work on bikes for friends. The other day I took in a Trek 800
    ("Comfort" bike?) which has a few funky features. Among them Sakae
    Oval Tech Efficiency Plus chain rings.

    In all our discussions here on r.b.t about non-round chain rings I
    don't recall ever hearing of them before. Were they contemporaneous
    with BioPace? What features did they have that made them "superior"
    (or just different) from other eccentric rings?

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

  2. Sheldon Brown actually has a few of these chainrings around:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/chainrings/110.html

  3. John Everett said:

    Here's one I've never heard of before. While I'm not in the business,
    I work on bikes for friends. The other day I took in a Trek 800
    ("Comfort" bike?) which has a few funky features. Among them Sakae
    Oval Tech Efficiency Plus chain rings.

    In all our discussions here on r.b.t about non-round chain rings I
    don't recall ever hearing of them before. Were they contemporaneous
    with BioPace? What features did they have that made them "superior"
    (or just different) from other eccentric rings?

    They were contemporaneous with Bio-Pace. I swapped some out several
    years ago (also off a Trek 800, IIRC) and put them in a junk box. Then
    on a lark this spring I cleaned 'em and put them on Ebay. I was
    astounded at the bidding. At the final price they were a cheap set of
    rings, but I hadn't thought I could *give* them away.

    So for your second question, I suppose somebody finds some value in
    them, but I think their main difference with Bio-Pace was patent
    infringement avoidance. Mind you, the distinction of Bio-Pace over
    prior oval rings was probably to allow a patent in the first place.

    Mark Janeba

  4. Mark Janeba said:

    They were contemporaneous with Bio-Pace.

    Yes, they were a marketing response to Biopace (no hyphen.)

    It appeared in the late '80s that Biopace was the wave of the future,
    nobody realized that it would be killed by the sneers and ridicule of
    the ignorant.

    Quoted message said:

    So for your second question, I suppose somebody finds some value in
    them, but I think their main difference with Bio-Pace was patent
    infringement avoidance.

    They do the same basic thing, but the Biopace is a subtler shape, while
    the Ovaltech and Sugino's "Cycloid" were simple ellipses.

    Quoted message said:

    Mind you, the distinction of Bio-Pace over
    prior oval rings was probably to allow a patent in the first place.

    Actually the main difference is in orientation. All of these rings are
    oriented at 90 degrees from the classic elliptical rings such as Thetic
    and others. Thus they were the _opposite_ of old-style ellipticals,
    with round rings occupying a middle ground between the two designs.

    It is really a shame that Biopace was laughed off the market by people
    who didn't understand it, because it is a real benefit to many riders,
    especially those who suffer from knee soreness.

    http://sheldonbrown.com/biopace

    Sheldon "Biopace" Brown
    +--------------------------------------------+
    | I’ll be performing in the Summer Revels |
    | June 25 & 26, Museum Wharf, Boston |
    | http://revels.org |
    +--------------------------------------------+
    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

  5. Ed said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Sheldon Brown says...

    Quoted message said:

    They do the same basic thing, but the Biopace is a subtler shape, while
    the Ovaltech and Sugino's "Cycloid" were simple ellipses.

    Biopace is indeed subtile. I fixed up an old bike I had not ridden for several
    years and began riding it while continuing to ride my other newer bikes. After
    a few months I noticed the chain ring looked odd. I cleaned off the grease on
    the ring and discovered the Biopace sticker.

    While I cannot feel any difference between Biopace and round chain rings, others
    may of course.

    When I first got back into cycling in the late 80s, I bought a Trek
    1400. After riding it for about six months or so I started riding with
    the San Diego CycloVets, and was almost immediately given grief about
    my Biopace chain rings. I didn't even know there was anything peculiar
    about my chain rings, but upon closer inspection I found they were not
    actually round!

    Under peer pressure I replaced them with a set of round rings, and
    immediately noticed a difference in the feel of the pedal stroke. This
    "strangeness" disappeared quite quickly (like during the first ride).
    The Biopace rings languish on a shelf in my garage to this day.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

  6. Ed said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Sheldon Brown says...

    While I cannot feel any difference between Biopace and round chain rings, others
    may of course.

    I bought a set of Biopace chainrings (52-42) in a used bike shop for
    $1. I have many bikes and I chose to put them on one that had a very
    tightly spaced 15-23 8 speed cassette, figuring that any benefit would
    be most apparent there. I have put about 1000 mile on them and
    honestly can't feel any difference.

    Tom

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