Scafell Pike from Wast Water

Following up to "Zinc Potterman" <[email hidden].
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Quoted message said:

I have good OL6 map for the route.
Is it straight forward? any scrambling, scary bits.
Want to do it in Feb so only short days.
Any suggestions for safe interesting alternative route back to NE end of
Wast water.

No problems, read this "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page26.htm"

You could go up the Corridor and down Brown Tongue,
Up lingmell, steep! down Brown Tounge.
Bad weather, up/down Brown Tongue
Longer, up to Sty Head and round to Esk Hause and over Great End
to Scafell Pike and down Brown Tongue

Watch you set off in right direction from summit and make the
correct turn at the col between Lingmell ans Scaffell Pike.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page01.htm"
(see website for email)

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:28:58 +0000 (UTC), "Zinc Potterman"

. (delete digits to reply) said:

I have good OL6 map for the route.
Is it straight forward? any scrambling, scary bits.
Want to do it in Feb so only short days.
Any suggestions for safe interesting alternative route back to NE end of
Wast water.
Thanks
Zinc

Quite safe, no scrambling, but mist on top may challenge your
navigational skills, in which case you could get into scary stuff -
and if you have to scramble you've gone the wrong way!

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"... and if you have to scramble you've gone the wrong way!"

First ever walk in the Lake District, thought I'd start on Scafell
Pike!

Instead of bearing to the left I went straight upto Mickeldore...not
the wisest choice for your first adventure!

In article <[email hidden]>, Rooney
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

email hidden said:

"... and if you have to scramble you've gone the wrong way!"

First ever walk in the Lake District, thought I'd start on Scafell
Pike!

Instead of bearing to the left I went straight upto Mickeldore...not
the wisest choice for your first adventure!

Straight up to Mickledore is the way I would advise - where did you
intend to bear left?

Probably for Lingmell Col - that's the easiest way to the summit.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

The Reids said:

You could go up the Corridor and down Brown Tongue,
Up lingmell, steep! down Brown Tounge.
Bad weather, up/down Brown Tongue
Longer, up to Sty Head and round to Esk Hause and over Great End
to Scafell Pike and down Brown Tongue

Also, my favourite approach from that side, up by (as in next to, not
in) Piers Gill. There's now a path all the way up. Then join the
corridor route. For descent you could then go towards Great End until
above Piers Gill, then descend to where you joined the corridor route
and reverse that route.

Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be my
2nd choice.

Up Brown Tongue would definitely be down the bottom of any list!

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Following up to Simon Caldwell

Quoted message said:

Also, my favourite approach from that side, up by (as in next to, not
in) Piers Gill. There's now a path all the way up. Then join the
corridor route. For descent you could then go towards Great End until
above Piers Gill, then descend to where you joined the corridor route
and reverse that route.

I left it out as a bit scrambly (I got the impression an easy
route was required) especially if icy in February.

Quoted message said:

Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be my
2nd choice.

Yes, both excellent routes with the proviso of sub-scrambling
involved.

Quoted message said:

Up Brown Tongue would definitely be down the bottom of any list!

Except in bad weather (sheltered) or if a new walker, which I
suspect the OP is?

Worth mentioning the route round Great End will be a bit long for
Feb.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

Stewart Robert Hinsley said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Rooney
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

email hidden said:

"... and if you have to scramble you've gone the wrong way!"

First ever walk in the Lake District, thought I'd start on Scafell
Pike!

Instead of bearing to the left I went straight upto Mickeldore...not
the wisest choice for your first adventure!

Straight up to Mickledore is the way I would advise - where did you
intend to bear left?

Probably for Lingmell Col - that's the easiest way to the summit.

Of course, yes - I was thinking of him standing just below Mickledore
and pondering whether to go straight on or turn left!

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The Reids said:

Quoted message said:

Up Brown Tongue would definitely be down the bottom of any list!

Except in bad weather (sheltered) or if a new walker, which I
suspect the OP is?

Perhaps, but walking up Brown Tongue is the sort of thing to put
someone off for life!

Quoted message said:

Worth mentioning the route round Great End will be a bit long for
Feb.

Depends how fast you go and whether you mind walking in the dark :-)

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Exactly.....

I suppose that's one of the issues with a novice who decides (foolishly
in hindsight) that a goal for that year was to walk to the highest
point in England.

Not having vast walking experience, just consulting the map & seeing a
path(?) route(?) track (?) from Hollow Stones up to Mickeldore seemed
the best (quickest) way. Having to resort to using hands on this route
was slightly more than I'd bargained for at that time. Needless to say
I did descend via Lingmell Col!

Consulting guide books (or in the case of the Lakes - Wainwright) is
the best prudent approach.

Simon Caldwell wrote:
" Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be
my
2nd choice."

How about down via Lingmell?

Simon Caldwell said:

Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be my
2nd choice.

Could you at least preserve the capital letters when discussing this ? All
sorts of distasteful images come to mind otherwise ;-)

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:28:58 +0000 (UTC), "Zinc Potterman"

. (delete digits to reply) said:

I have good OL6 map for the route.
Is it straight forward? any scrambling, scary bits.
Want to do it in Feb so only short days.
Any suggestions for safe interesting alternative route back to NE end of
Wast water.

I will defer to others on the best ascent route (I've only been up via
Scafell which adds significantly to the distance and effort), but I would
say a detour to Great End is well worth it for the views from this somewhat
unimpressive looking summit. A descent from there to Esk Hause and down
past Sprinkling Tarn is probably the easiest route back but to get to Great
End from Scafell Pike involves a rough walk over a boulder field which may
not be a lot of fun in February. I've done it in a blizzard in May and it
was no picnic.

Allow a good hour and a half from J36 on the M6 if that's the way you're
going. Nice drive, though.

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I believe in free will - my religion says I have no choice.

Mail john rather than nospam...

Following up to [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Simon Caldwell wrote:
" Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be
my
2nd choice."

How about down via Lingmell?

I find that too steep for knee comfort in places. If that's not a
problem, it has superior views to Brown Tongue and is shorter to
the Wasdale Head.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page01.htm"
(see website for email)

Following up to John Laird

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Alternatively, the corridor route up and down brown tongue would be my
2nd choice.

Could you at least preserve the capital letters when discussing this ? All
sorts of distasteful images come to mind otherwise ;-)

Oh dear, it does rather. Luckily Great Cockup is not in the area.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

Following up to John Laird

Quoted message said:

but to get to Great
End from Scafell Pike involves a rough walk over a boulder field which may
not be a lot of fun in February.

It *can* be easier under a good layer of snow, but who knows till
the day. BTW nobody pointed out winter equipment might be
advisable in Feb.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale picture gallery
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/waspics.htm"
(see website for email)

Dont even mention a similarly coloured hill top in Cornwall?