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  1. This sounds kind of dumb, but I'm doing a science project on unicycling
    and any helpful information would be good.๐Ÿ˜•

    Jeff

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  2. Kinda Vague, but what exactly are you doing it on?

    Are you just writing up info about unicycling, then you only have to
    search this site and the rest of the net.

    If your comparing unicycles, then unicycle.com etc

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  3. Yea you might need to explain your ideas a bit, I know there are some
    people who are good at science here so... Explain and you will get
    more ideas shot at you.

    Mike

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  4. One really good idea for a HS science project on unicycling might be to
    investigate frictional forces between the tire and the floor. What
    movements in unicycling depend on friction, which ones don't. Which
    direction is the frictional force directed for different tricks? How
    could that knowledge help riders pick the right riding surface and
    tire combination for certain tricks.

    Just an idea!
    Blake

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  5. How about the spinning wheel and centrifugal force?

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  6. How about different metals used for frames and the comparsion between
    strength and weight. Or, look into the different types of Hubs (
    splined, cauterless, and cautered), compare them and state the various
    pros and cons as they may be.

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  7. Trapper said:

    How about the spinning wheel and centrifugal force?

    just so you know jeff there is no such thing as centrifugal
    force...only centripetal force, just so you dont use wrong info if you
    decide to use this in your project. good luck!๐Ÿ™‚

    -paul

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  8. spasmo said:

    just so you know jeff there is no such thing as centrifugal force...only
    centripetal force, just so you dont use wrong info if you decide to use
    this in your project. good luck!๐Ÿ™‚

    -paul

    Centrifugal force is a force that is the same magnitude as the
    centripetal force, but in the opposite direction.

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  9. I for one believe in the all-mighty Centrifugal Force. It is a great
    being. All you need is faith.

    On a more real note, I'm not sure that there are too many
    unicycle-specific projects that you could create. I think that so far
    this is a pretty decent idea:

    podzol said:

    One really good idea for a HS science project on unicycling might be to
    investigate frictional forces between the tire and the floor. What
    movements in unicycling depend on friction, which ones don't. Which
    direction is the frictional force directed for different tricks? How
    could that knowledge help riders pick the right riding surface and tire
    combination for certain tricks.

    I don't think there are many opportunities for gyroscopic/*Centrifugal*
    Forces to be exparimented on a unicycle, as they have no applications.
    Furthermore, the way cranks play with the rotation patterns of a
    spinning unicycle wheel would through stuff off quite a bit.

    In Centrifugal Force we trust!

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  10. use physics !!!! and get osme ryan atkins vids ! or put soething about
    bio on that thing on world's guiness record where they say that kris
    holm is more then human for his crazy balance.. ***not guines record
    ripleys belive it or not..

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  11. write about the first unicycles where they rided penny fartings with the
    rear wheel in the air.๐Ÿ™„

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  12. wow, heaps of ideas

    Yeah, physics give a range of ideas. And then there's chemistry where
    you could talk about materials used and strenghts and stuff.

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  13. Something about how much energy you spend accellerating and
    deaccellerating in order to stay ballanced. You could do some
    comparisons if you are on average 10, 5, or 2 degrees out of
    equilibrium or something like that. You'd have to simplify the problem
    somewhat, but that'd probably be ok for a school project.

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  14. podzol said:

    One really good idea for a HS science project on unicycling might be to
    investigate frictional forces between the tire and the floor. What
    movements in unicycling depend on friction, which ones don't. Which
    direction is the frictional force directed for different tricks? How
    could that knowledge help riders pick the right riding surface and
    tire combination for certain tricks.

    Just an idea!
    Blake

    What, exactly, doesn't rely on friction? I was pretty sure everything
    relys on friction (between the ground and the tire) to make it work.
    (Try riding on ice with a bald tire, and see how difficult it is).

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  15. nick said:

    What, exactly, doesn't rely on friction? I was pretty sure everything
    relys on friction (between the ground and the tire) to make it work.
    (Try riding on ice with a bald tire, and see how difficult it is).

    Well I know the answer, there is one class of moving parts on a
    unicycle that one wants zero friction (well ideally, but you do want
    the lowest friction possible) but it it HIS science project!!! I'm not
    going to write it for him!!!

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  16. podzol said:

    Well I know the answer, there is one class of moving parts on a unicycle
    that one wants zero friction (well ideally, but you do want the lowest
    friction possible) but it it HIS science project, and I'm not going to
    write it for him!!!

    Between the tire an the surface, there are times when friction becomes
    more or less critical during certain manuvers. the direction of the
    frictional force will also change.

    My point is that friction is always critical between the tire and the
    ground. If you can think of some time when it's not (other than jumping
    perfectly vertically, which is somewhat impossible) PM me to let me
    know, sometimes I'm wrong.

    I think I somewhat misinterpreted you're original post. I wasn't
    thinking of moving parts on the unicycle, I was thinking of woving the
    unicycle as a whole.

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  17. Jeff,

    If you've got access to software like 'Videopoint' you might try
    looking at a video of someone (yourself!) hopping or jumping. Compare
    the height gained by the bottom of the wheel to that gained by the
    rider's centre of mass - there's usually quite a difference. SImilar
    stuff has been done for track & field athletes and ballet dancers -
    Nijinsky was famous for seeming to fly across the stage. Check out
    -The Physics of Dance- by Kenneth Laws. Or grab a copy of Halliday &
    Resnick's classic physics book, -Fundamentals of Physics- (5th ed.) and
    look at Chap. 9.
    Good luck!

    DF

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  18. Gilby said:

    Centrifugal force is a force that is the same magnitude as the
    centripetal force, but in the opposite direction.

    Centrifugal, or centre fleeing, force is simply the lack of centripetal
    force. See it like this, you have a string with a marble on the end. If
    you swing it, the string becomes taut and the marble goes around in
    circles. Your hand is holding the string, and the string makes sure the
    marble doesn't leave the circle. So the force keeping the marble going
    round and round is directed inwards. If centrifugal force was equal to
    centripetal force, the marble would be going in a straight line, as the
    two forces together would be 0 and have no effect. This is also why a
    circular motion is the only motion where an object can be accelerated,
    yet not change it's velocity. (It is always receiving an accelerating
    inwards, F = ma, where F and m are a constant, and thus a is as well.)

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  19. Erant said:

    Centrifugal, or centre fleeing, force is simply the lack of centripetal
    force. See it like this, you have a string with a marble on the end. If
    you swing it, the string becomes taut and the marble goes around in
    circles. Your hand is holding the string, and the string makes sure the
    marble doesn't leave the circle. So the force keeping the marble going
    round and round is directed inwards. If centrifugal force was equal to
    centripetal force, the marble would be going in a straight line, as the
    two forces together would be 0 and have no effect. This is also why a
    circular motion is the only motion where an object can be accelerated,
    yet not change it's velocity. (It is always receiving an accelerating
    inwards, F = ma, where F and m are a constant, and thus a is as well.)

    Gilby's right: centrifugal force is a measurable phenomenon equal and
    opposite to the centripetal force, that scientists use all the time
    (centrifuges are an example). the force, however, not simple, it is a
    residual effect of the spinning mass's inertia, which wants to keep it
    going straight. Spinning objects are under constant accelleration
    (constantly changing velocity vectors). Centrifugal force is the same
    in principle as when we feel ourselves being forced upon when he are
    accellerating or slowing in an elevator. Gravity always effects us the
    same, gravitational forces don't increase or decrease, but we feel a
    force becasue of out inertia ans out accellerating or decellerating
    state. If you put a scale beneath us, the scale would even read
    differently! But we we never really gain gravitational weight.

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  20. podzol said:


    Erant said:

    Centrifugal, or centre fleeing, force is simply the lack of centripetal
    force. See it like this, you have a string with a marble on the end. If

    snip snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    circular motion is the only motion where an object can be accelerated,
    yet not change it's velocity. (It is always receiving an accelerating
    inwards, F = ma, where F and m are a constant, and thus a is as well.)

    Gilby's right: centrifugal force is a measurable phenomenon equal and
    opposite to the centripetal force, that scientists use all the time
    (centrifuges are an example).

    No. Centrifugal force is a observed apparent effect of circular
    motion, but the force itself does not exist - it is the transmission
    of centripetal force that gives rise to the same effects as if
    centrifugal force existed on a part of a body.

    Do a free-body diagram for the body that you think is being subject to
    centrifugal force, and there is no outwards acting force on it.

    However, Erant is wrong to say a body undergoing circular motion is
    not changing its velocity. Its speed may not change, but its
    velocity (being a vector) certainly does, since the direction of
    motion is continually changing. Is this context, it is not reasonable
    to simplify 'velocity' to be synonymous with 'speed'.

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    in principle as when we feel ourselves being forced upon when he are
    accellerating or slowing in an elevator.

    Exactly - and that force doesn't actually exist. Your legs feel as if
    something is pressing down on you. You feel heavier as the elevator
    lifts you, but there is no additional downward force being applied to
    you - only an upward force applied to part of you (the soles of your
    feet).

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