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  1. I did a search on seat height but most threads mix distance, muni, and
    trials heights. When my AX-29 comes in, I'll have to make a decision
    on how much to cut off the seat post and can be fairly sure noone
    around will be able to help me much. I plan of course to have the bike
    shop cut only a little at a time, but I would like some idea of what it
    should feel and look like.

    The noname I am riding is too low. But I can't use it to gauge how
    high it should be because the post is too short to be raised much
    higher. I recall that the Swinn I road in the late 70's was high
    enough for my younger brother to reach the pedals while barely bending
    his knee. The same uni (we had only one between us) on me was of
    course a little smaller in comparison.

    For distance riders...please post your inseam and seat height. Let's
    measure between the cranks and seat.

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  2. OK, on my 29KH, I have the center of the seat 33 1/2" up from the top of
    the pedal when in the 6 o'clock position. My inseam (wearing my riding
    boots) measures 34 1/2" from the floor.

    Keep in mind you will need the post lower for longer cranks, and higher
    for shorter cranks, if you ever plan to change out the cranks. So if
    you have 165 cranks, make sure to leave enough in the tube to raise the
    seat if you ever move up to 125 cranks (almost 2" difference).

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  3. ahollow said:

    Keep in mind you will need the post lower for longer cranks, and higher
    for shorter cranks, if you ever plan to change out the cranks. So if
    you have 165 cranks, make sure to leave enough in the tube to raise the
    seat if you ever move up to 125 cranks (almost 2" difference).

    Oh, ya.. I forgot about the crank length..

    ok.. lets measure from the top of the pedal in the 6 o'clock position.
    🙂

    Now I gotta think about crank length.. ah.. so much to think about when
    you are getting ready for a new baby. 😄

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  4. With each unicycle I've had I've found that I've started off at a
    relatively low position but as my confidence has increased I have
    naturally found the need to raise the seat. So get them to cut off as
    little as you can get away with but have the seat where you feel
    comfortable. I think distance riders have their seats higher than for
    other types of riding.

    Sorry, this is probably too vague to be of any use.

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  5. I don't have any measurments to post but I can say I do alot of distance
    riding and I like to have my seat higher.

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  6. If you buy (or borrow) a pipe cutter (hack saws also work) you can cut
    ityourself. That way if you start conservatively, you don't have to
    bring it to the shop to be cut again.

    Pipe cutters are super easy to use and make very clean cuts.

    Unibugg said:

    I did a search on seat height but most threads mix distance, muni, and
    trials heights. When my AX-29 comes in, I'll have to make a decision
    on how much to cut off the seat post and can be fairly sure noone
    around will be able to help me much. I plan of course to have the bike
    shop cut only a little at a time, but I would like some idea of what it
    should feel and look like.

    The noname I am riding is too low. But I can't use it to gauge how
    high it should be because the post is too short to be raised much
    higher. I recall that the Swinn I road in the late 70's was high
    enough for my younger brother to reach the pedals while barely bending
    his knee. The same uni (we had only one between us) on me was of
    course a little smaller in comparison.

    For distance riders...please post your inseam and seat height. Let's
    measure between the cranks and seat.

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  7. cathwood said:

    cut off as little as you can get away with but have the seat where you
    feel comfortable. I think distance riders have their seats higher than
    for other types of riding.

    Sorry, this is probably too vague to be of any use.

    Vague. Of course not. Your message is that precise measurements are
    fine but in the end it must be what you are comfortable with. 🙂

    mscalisi said:

    Pipe cutters are super easy to use and make very clean cuts.

    Thanks

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  8. GizmoDuck said:

    I think do a fair bit of 'long-distance' road/muni-cycling, whatever
    that means.

    The way I set up my unicycle for road unicycling is exactly as I would
    for my road bike. Knees very slightly bent at it's lowest position on
    the pedal stroke. You lose a lot of power if the seat is too low, but
    if it's too high it's harder to stand up and can be painful from
    overextending.

    On a Muni I set it up with slightly more bend in the knees so I have
    more maneuvaribility.

    if you are going to listen to anybody, he is most likely your best bet.

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    "Thats my favorite thing about unicycling, I can eat oreos while
    riding!" ~Me

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  9. have it so that your legs are almost straight when you are seated, but
    make sure you can still stand and ride for larger bumps (ie. curbs,
    roots, etc).

    I have my seat like this on my 24" and it is perfect -for me.-🙂

    note: i only ride on the road with my cruiser, so if you plan on doing
    M-uni or light offroad, discard what i have just said😉

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  10. if your planning on road riding, buy shorter cranks. 170s are way to
    long for road riding. buy like 114s.

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  11. mscalisi said:

    Pipe cutters are super easy to use and make very clean cuts.

    NOTE: That's a *good* pipe cutter. All the ones I ever had were
    cheapies, and only cut spirals. Those are probably okay for
    (occasionally) cutting copper plumbing pipes, but seat posts are a
    little heavier, so don't buy the cheapest pipe cutter you see! Someday
    I'll get a proper one for myself. Until then it's the hacksaw, but a
    pipe cutter makes a much nicer, easier cut.

    Chris.James said:

    f you are going to listen to anybody, he is most likely your best bet.

    Yup. If unicycling has a Lance Armstrong, Ken is the closest thing to
    it. Plus, if you know the rules for bicycle seat height, that's a great
    rule of thumb. If anything, unicycle seat height is more critical
    because we pedal *more*, and because we don't get to *stop* pedaling. I
    agree with Ken on the high seat, which you may lower if the ride is
    rough. I lower mine quite a bit for serious MUni, but when I take the
    Coker on the trails I'm not aiming for super-technical so my seat
    height stays put.

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  12. GizmoDuck said:

    You lose a lot of power if the seat is too low, but if it's too high
    it's harder to stand up and can be painful from overextending.

    On a Muni I set it up with slightly more bend in the knees so I have
    more maneuvaribility.

    Thanks. So it needs to be a nice balance between comfort for distance
    and maneuverability.

    Chris.James said:

    if you are going to listen to anybody, he is most likely your best bet.

    🙂

    mornish said:

    if your planning on road riding, buy shorter cranks. 170s are way to
    long for road riding. buy like 114s.

    The AX-29 comes with 152mm cranks. This is what I am used to so I'll
    leave it at that for now while I get used to the wheel (and mounting
    it). But I'll keep this in mind for later. 114s? :eek:

    johnfoss said:

    I lower mine quite a bit for serious MUni, but when I take the Coker on
    the trails I'm not aiming for super-technical so my seat height stays
    put.

    Ok.. if you take your Coker onto trails without adjusting the seat then
    someday I should be able to do this with the 29. um.. "someday" 😉

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  13. on a 29er with 115mm cranks I started with an height of 83cm from the
    lower position of pedals and ended on slightly less than 85cm.
    since my ancestors evolved from wild beasts later than other people I
    really have short legs ... (so the values have no meaning unless you
    share the same physical features)
    same advice: for muni it is still 83 cm.
    conclusion: try and try again until you feel comfort

    edit: do not be shy on 114 on a 29er I am an awful rider and I can
    manage it!

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  14. When I had a knee problem (after riding a Coker) I was advised to
    raise the saddle (to about the point where the leg is fully extended,
    or very nearly, at six o'clock). It seemed to work. But the same
    unicyclist warned that with your saddle too high (which may be just
    right for the knees), your ankles start to hurt.

    Later, my physiotherapist said that these both made perfect sense. (I
    remember that the knee issue is because the vastus medialis muscle
    only works when the leg is nearly straight, and it needs to be
    exercised too. Not sure what brings the ankle problem on.)

  15. You'll never go back. I'd at least shorten them to 125s. Then when you
    revisit 152s you'll think they're unbelievably long and clunky. At
    least make sure you leave your seatpost long enough to allow for short
    cranks.

    Unibugg said:


    The AX-29 comes with 152mm cranks. This is what I am used to so I'll
    leave it at that for now while I get used to the wheel (and mounting
    it). But I'll keep this in mind for later. 114s? :eek:

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  16. Perhaps the idea then would be to experiment within certain parameters
    and listen to your legs: if they hurt, ajust slightly.

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  17. Danni said:

    Remember to file down the sharp edge when you are done cutting it with a
    saw or pipe cutter. It helps to put it in your frame, and lessens the
    chance of cutting yourself.

    I just carefully put in the seatpost after cutting it (with a hacksaw),
    and let that action lessen the nasty edges. I won't ever remove it
    again unless I need a new post, so it really doesn't matter.

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  18. Buy two seat posts. With longer cranks and early caution your seat post
    may be lower and may be too short for your eventual height. As you
    improve and go to higher seat post settings due to developing skill and
    still higher due to shorter cranks, if you run out of seat post height,
    just have another seat post to hand. In fact there is a reasonable
    amount of adjustment, in any case.
    Barry

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  19. wobbling bear said:

    edit: do not be shy on 114 on a 29er I am an awful rider and I can
    manage it!

    I will definately keep the 114 in mind. I might even be convinced to
    give it a shot. 🙂

    There is some nice advice on this thread. Thanks to all.

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  20. Here is something you can try and it works...
    Measure your inseam and set the height of the seat to your actual
    inseam. Measure from the bottom of the crank to the middle of the seat,
    not the top. That would be an ideal position to ride long distance. If
    you don't feel comfortable, you sure have a good starting point.

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