Secrets of Warm Toes?

88% wool socks
http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/product.asp?T1=G20111-L

Cathartt A-111 sock. Works for me.

Keep it moth-protected in the summer.

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Better to get the ones that have a strap that goes under the shoe. I got
these http://stores.channeladvisor.com/ebikestop/items/004-FC2066
as they fit over my running shoes (with much effort) whereas most biking
shoecovers *will not* fit over any oversize shoe. REI carried the XL size
tho it's not on their site that I can see.

rms

Also, this thread
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=242569
recommends these
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442618318&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302692723&bmUID=1163047920768

which look very interesting to me. My neoprene Gators work, but make feet
very sweaty.

rms

oughtfour <[email hidden]> wrote in news:YLvlh.2511$5q6.52@trndny02:

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Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

I love toe warmers. They are lightweight and don't overheat your feet like
full booties. If yours are falling off, they are probably too big. Try a
smaller size.

Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

These things http://tinyurl.com/yzlq4u have no hooks or flaps or ties to
tighten. They do not slip over the tongue of the shoe or fasten to the
laces or anything like that that I can see.

They're made for clipless pedals; the shoe/pedal engagement prevents them
from falling off.

By the way, my toes don't keep secrets from me. They let me know when
they're cold.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

"oughtfour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

These things http://tinyurl.com/yzlq4u have no hooks or flaps or ties to
tighten. They do not slip over the tongue of the shoe or fasten to the
laces or anything like that that I can see.

What they do is fall off when I have to make a stop for traffic.

Do these ever work? I could really use something that does.

It was about 32 degrees on my ride yesterday but I was warm enough--except
for my toes.

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Quoted message said:

oughtfour <[email hidden]> wrote in news:YLvlh.2511$5q6.52@trndny02:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

I love toe warmers. They are lightweight and don't overheat your feet
like
full booties. If yours are falling off, they are probably too big. Try a
smaller size.

Another tip - try WOOL socks, it works!

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

They're made for clipless pedals; the shoe/pedal engagement prevents them
from falling off.

Too high-tech for me. In any case what keeps them on when you have to
stop--and take your foot off the pedal--for traffic? Which is what
happened to me. Then they fell off.

So I guess I should just return these puppies. Or get some duct tape.

Thanks everyone!

oughtfour <[email hidden]> wrote in news:sUElh.2739$5q6.2500@trndny02:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They're made for clipless pedals; the shoe/pedal engagement prevents them
from falling off.

Too high-tech for me.

Try the Garneau toe warmers that have a strap that wraps around the back of
your shoe.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

They're made for clipless pedals; the shoe/pedal engagement prevents them
from falling off.

Too high-tech for me. In any case what keeps them on when you have to
stop--and take your foot off the pedal--for traffic? Which is what
happened to me. Then they fell off.

So I guess I should just return these puppies. Or get some duct tape.

Thanks everyone!

I was going to go with my favorite, JB Weld, but then I decided to just
offer this: make your own strap for around the heel. It shouldn't be too
difficult. If nothing else, you could glue some shoe laces to them and tie
in a knot around your heel. Hell, you could even staple the end of the shoe
laces to the toe warmers....

Pat

In article <YLvlh.2511$5q6.52@trndny02>, oughtfour <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

Next time, buy a full cover.

Quoted message said:

Do these ever work? I could really use something that does.

It was about 32 degrees on my ride yesterday but I was warm
enough--except for my toes.

The question is *why* your toes get cold. It may be more of a
circulation issue than losses through the shoe. It certainly doesn't
hurt to add a wool layer and use a cover to trap heat, but keeping good
circulation (especially when your core is only "warm enough"😉 is fairly
important, too.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ron Hardin said:

88% wool socks
http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/product.asp?T1=G20111-L

Cathartt A-111 sock. Works for me.

Keep it moth-protected in the summer.

Wool socks are great, I agree.

I learned from Nordic skiing that tp keep the extremities warm, keep the
head warm. Since the brain controls circulation, it will keep itself
warm at the expense of all else.

Good luck
Happy New Year

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oughtfour <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling
off my shoes?

I love toe warmers. They are lightweight and don't overheat your
feet like
full booties. If yours are falling off, they are probably too big.
Try a smaller size.

Another tip - try WOOL socks, it works!

As for wool socks try Alpaca wool socks.
Dahlgren Alpaca wool socks are really comfortable,I now use them for
cycling constantly. I am in So Cal so it doesn't get terribly cold here
but last week I was cycling to work at 38 degrees, I put on my short
Alpaca socks and added a pair of cotton socks over them and my feet
stayed toasty over the entire 10 mile commute.

I was first introduced to Alpaca socks when I was given some Dahlgren
Aplaca backpacking socks by my brother in law (who knows the people who
sell them). I liked them so much I decided to try some for cycling so I
asked my brother in law to see if they had cycling socks. The socks he
provided look alot like the short cross training socks listed on the
website but those are only listed in white, the pairs he gave me are
green and blue, so they may actually have other other lines of socks
that are not posted on the website, you will probably have to contact
them to ask.

Here is a site that you see what they offer.
http://www.dahlgrenfootwear.com/

Richard B.

Doc O'Leary said:

The question is *why* your toes get cold. It may be more of a
circulation issue than losses through the shoe.

I'm sure that is part of it. Perhaps even aggravated by my new
extra-thick wool socks, which make for a tight fit inside my bike shoes.

The toe warmers fell off at the start of the ride, but my feet were nice
and warm until the second half, when I turned into the wind to return
home. So I think it was the wind that did it, and that a wind shield on
the ends of my shoes would be just the thing.

What if anything can I do to improve circulation?

Shoes with enough room for circulation work for me, and I'll throw the
old cheap folding closure baggies over each sock. Works great. Wool
socks and neoprene booties for near zero. Thin wool gives more room and
can be layered with something else.

oughtfour said:

Doc O'Leary said:

The question is *why* your toes get cold. It may be more of a
circulation issue than losses through the shoe.

I'm sure that is part of it. Perhaps even aggravated by my new
extra-thick wool socks, which make for a tight fit inside my bike shoes.

The toe warmers fell off at the start of the ride, but my feet were nice
and warm until the second half, when I turned into the wind to return
home. So I think it was the wind that did it, and that a wind shield on
the ends of my shoes would be just the thing.

What if anything can I do to improve circulation?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Richard B said:

Quoted message said:

Another tip - try WOOL socks, it works!

As for wool socks try Alpaca wool socks.

I recently got a hearty endorsement of alpaca wool
from my brother, to whom his Peruvian new neighbours/
friends gave a pair of gloves, a toque, and a blanket
made of the stuff. It appears to be a finer fibre than
sheeps' wool, and correspondingly weaves "tighter."
It's almost like felt.

Quoted message said:

Here is a site that you see what they offer.
http://www.dahlgrenfootwear.com/

It's good to know these are available. Thank you
for providing this information.

cheers,
Tom

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Tom Keats said:

Quoted message said:

As for wool socks try Alpaca wool socks.

Quoted message said:

I recently got a hearty endorsement of alpaca wool from my brother,
to whom his Peruvian new neighbours/ friends gave a pair of gloves,
a toque, and a blanket made of the stuff. It appears to be a finer
fibre than sheeps' wool, and correspondingly weaves "tighter." It's
almost like felt.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Here is a site that you see what they offer.

http://www.dahlgrenfootwear.com/

Quoted message said:

It's good to know these are available. Thank you for providing this
information.

I think warm toast is best just as it comes out of the toaster. Don't
try to keep it warm.

Jobst Brandt

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Tom Keats said:

Quoted message said:

As for wool socks try Alpaca wool socks.

Quoted message said:

I recently got a hearty endorsement of alpaca wool from my brother,
to whom his Peruvian new neighbours/ friends gave a pair of gloves,
a toque, and a blanket made of the stuff. It appears to be a finer
fibre than sheeps' wool, and correspondingly weaves "tighter." It's
almost like felt.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Here is a site that you see what they offer.

http://www.dahlgrenfootwear.com/

Quoted message said:

It's good to know these are available. Thank you for providing this
information.

I think warm toast is best just as it comes out of the toaster. Don't
try to keep it warm.

I like to warm my gloves on our gas furnace's plenum or
hot-air duct for a while just before I head out into the
wintery chill. Maybe a similar tactic would work with socks.

My thus-warmed gloves will stay warm for as long as I keep them
on. But if I take them off outdoors & mid-ride, the warmth is
immediately lost. Then I've got to stick them under my arms or
under my waistband, to warm them up again with body heat. And
that can take some time. It feels funny, too. As a Reynaud's
Syndrome sufferer, I /need/ to get those glove warm. Fortunately
for me, I mostly feel the effects in my fingertips, which I can
curl around the handlebar, away from the wind's chill. Folks who
get it in their toes don't enjoy such luxury.

Maybe a fencepost doesn't experience wind chill, but people
with Reynaud's certainly do.

I like my toast to be soft, too. Friable toast is ruined.

cheers,
Tom

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"oughtfour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:YLvlh.2511$5q6.52@trndny02...

Quoted message said:

Can anyone explain to me how to keep my new toe warmers from falling off
my shoes?

These things http://tinyurl.com/yzlq4u have no hooks or flaps or ties to
tighten. They do not slip over the tongue of the shoe or fasten to the
laces or anything like that that I can see.

What they do is fall off when I have to make a stop for traffic.

Do these ever work? I could really use something that does.

It was about 32 degrees on my ride yesterday but I was warm enough--except
for my toes.

My toe covers have a strap that goes all the way behind the shoe to help
hold them on, no problem.
It sounds like they aren't meant for your particular shoe design or they are
too big.
A rubber band might work.
You could use some duct tape. But I found that duct taping over the vents
works just as well too.
Thus no need for a toe cover.

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:17:26 -0800, [email hidden] (Tom

Keats) said:

Quoted message said:

As for wool socks try Alpaca wool socks.

I recently got a hearty endorsement of alpaca wool
from my brother, to whom his Peruvian new neighbours/
friends gave a pair of gloves, a toque, and a blanket
made of the stuff. It appears to be a finer fibre than
sheeps' wool, and correspondingly weaves "tighter."
It's almost like felt.

I still don't remember losing an alpaca toque but I've searched for
it many times. It was early seventies hippy import stuff made of
panels woven on a primitive foot loom. I used it extensively during
forays into the alpine. Damn near waterproof. It looked a bit like a
psilocybe cap in both colour and shape.

I had a double-breasted 50's era alpaca greatcoat that I gave to
Louis in Montreal.

I still have a genuine Cowichan sweater from the same era that is
still perfect outer wear in our typical air borne dampness. It's
thick, hand-spun sheep wool and its 3 colours are natural. I renew
the lavender sprigs occasionally but don't wear it much anymore.
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