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  1. yesterday, ford and chevy announced substantial sales reductions-8-10%
    due to rising subsidized gas costs.
    Euro gas, unsubsidized at 6-? a gallon.
    Major losses will preclude chevy and ford from using revenue to
    subsidize R and D for upgrading designs originally developed in the
    late 1930's or early 1950's?

  2. Quoted message said:

    yesterday, ford and chevy announced substantial sales reductions-8-10%
    due to rising subsidized gas costs.
    Euro gas, unsubsidized at 6-? a gallon.
    Major losses will preclude chevy and ford from using revenue to
    subsidize R and D for upgrading designs originally developed in the
    late 1930's or early 1950's?


    84p a litre in the UK, which is 3.81 GBP or about $7 per (imperial)
    gallon.

    Judging from the number of SUVs round here and the speed people drive,
    even this price doesn't seem to be a problem...

  3. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Quoted message said:

    yesterday, ford and chevy announced substantial sales reductions-8-10%
    due to rising subsidized gas costs.
    Euro gas, unsubsidized at 6-? a gallon.
    Major losses will preclude chevy and ford from using revenue to
    subsidize R and D for upgrading designs originally developed in the
    late 1930's or early 1950's?


    84p a litre in the UK, which is 3.81 GBP or about $7 per (imperial)
    gallon.

    Judging from the number of SUVs round here and the speed people drive,
    even this price doesn't seem to be a problem...

    Dear Zog,

    To cut through the imperialistic fog and colonial confusion:

    1.00 GBP = 1.82 USD

    84p/liter = $1.53/liter
    3.81 GBP/Imperial gallon = $6.92/Imperial gallon
    3.18 GBP/U.S. gallon = $5.79/U.S. gallon

    Just to clarify, am I correct in thinking that much of the
    pump price difference lies in the larger UK tax?

    Here in Colorado, for example, there's the federal tax of
    $0.184 per U.S. gallon, plus a $0.220/gal state tax, about
    forty cents U.S. per gallon:

    http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

    So I'm paying about $2.20 per U.S. gallon, $1.80 plus $0.40
    in state and federal tax, a rate of about 22%.

    If same U.S. gallon costs you $5.79 at the pump and the base
    price is about the same, then it sounds like your U.K. tax
    rate is ten times as high--about 200% on $2.

    I expect there are some curious financial details.

    Carl Fogel

  4. Quoted message said:


    So I'm paying about $2.20 per U.S. gallon, $1.80 plus $0.40
    in state and federal tax, a rate of about 22%.

    If same U.S. gallon costs you $5.79 at the pump and the base
    price is about the same, then it sounds like your U.K. tax
    rate is ten times as high--about 200% on $2.

    I expect there are some curious financial details.

    http://econweb.tamu.edu/amayer/Eco323/gastax.htm

  5. Peter Cole said:
    Quoted message said:


    So I'm paying about $2.20 per U.S. gallon, $1.80 plus $0.40
    in state and federal tax, a rate of about 22%.

    If same U.S. gallon costs you $5.79 at the pump and the base
    price is about the same, then it sounds like your U.K. tax
    rate is ten times as high--about 200% on $2.

    I expect there are some curious financial details.

    http://econweb.tamu.edu/amayer/Eco323/gastax.htm

    Dear Peter,

    That link does indicate that the U.K. gas tax was about
    seven times the U.S. rate in an average state back in 2001,
    roughly around the 10x ratio that I'm wondering about four
    years later.

    I have no idea, however, if the U.K. tax has changed.

    Thanks,

    Carl Fogel

  6. Quoted message said:

    If same U.S. gallon costs you $5.79 at the pump and the base
    price is about the same, then it sounds like your U.K. tax
    rate is ten times as high--about 200% on $2.

    I expect there are some curious financial details.

    Ultra low sulphur petrol & diesel: 47.1p/litre
    Non ULS petrol: 50.19p/litre
    Non ULS diesel: 53.27p/litre
    Biodiesel: 27.1p/litre
    LPG & compressed natural gas: 9p/kg

    Then add 17.5% VAT on the whole lot.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    A complimentary biro(tm) is /not/ to be sniffed at.

  7. Dave Larrington said:
    Quoted message said:

    If same U.S. gallon costs you $5.79 at the pump and the base
    price is about the same, then it sounds like your U.K. tax
    rate is ten times as high--about 200% on $2.

    I expect there are some curious financial details.

    Ultra low sulphur petrol & diesel: 47.1p/litre
    Non ULS petrol: 50.19p/litre
    Non ULS diesel: 53.27p/litre
    Biodiesel: 27.1p/litre
    LPG & compressed natural gas: 9p/kg

    Then add 17.5% VAT on the whole lot.

    Dear Dave,

    Adding 17.5% VAT for 47.1p/liter non-ULS petrol gives only
    55p/liter, so I expect that some other taxes are silently
    added to raise the price another 25-30p to reach the
    82p/liter mentioned by Zog.

    In the U.S., it's common for gas pumps to discreetly avoid
    mentioning any details about how much of the total price per
    gallon is tax. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case
    world-wide.

    Carl Fogel

  8. come gather round ( plus and minus 3-5mm more or less )
    children where ever ye roam
    and ad mitt that the water's around you have grown...

  9. been over to

    http://www.smover.com/

  10. Quoted message said:

    Adding 17.5% VAT for 47.1p/liter non-ULS petrol gives only
    55p/liter, so I expect that some other taxes are silently
    added to raise the price another 25-30p to reach the
    82p/liter mentioned by Zog.

    The VAT is payable on the "cost price + duty" combo; the cost price being
    about 30 p/litre. So-called "Red diesel", for marine & agricultural use, is
    zero-rated for VAT and taxed at about 3 or 4 p/litre, and thus retails at
    around 34 p/litre (or did the last time someone mentioned it on
    uk.rec.waterways).

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    If you are choking on an ice cube, simply pour a jug of boiling water
    down your throat and presto! The blockage is almost instantly removed.

  11. that's what i think about every weekend during the 3 hour average tune
    up for the commuter bike i try riding (into a pothole this morning
    sheeet)>
    VAT!

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