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Quoted message said:

I love riding in to work every day, we're lucky to have such excellent
cycling facilities in Melbourne. Even so, I don't have to spend much
time wondering why we get so much bad press. I reckon I see as much bad
behaviour from fellow cyclists as I do from motorists.

It's true, there's a bad element in both groups. The difference is that
our bad element doesn't tend to kill people...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1598415.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1597564.htm

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quote='dtmeister said:

I love riding in to work every day, we're lucky to have such excellent
cycling facilities in Melbourne. Even so, I don't have to spend much
time wondering why we get so much bad press. I reckon I see as much bad
behaviour from fellow cyclists as I do from motorists.

It's true, there's a bad element in both groups. The difference is that
our bad element doesn't tend to kill people...

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Exactly. I'm not condoning rudeness for one second but let's keep it in perspective shall we?

All I've read about in the last couple of weeks is ``there is potential'' ``I've had X number of near misses'' ``it's only a matter of time.''

The fact is that in a collision with a pedestrian the is a high liklihood that the cyclist is going to get hurt. Most cyclists know this, most cyclists do the right thing.

For the ones that don't do the right thing, it's bad PR for the rest of us but it's nowhere near as dangerous as anti-social behaviour behind the wheel of a car is. A pedestrian collision with a cyclist is more likely than not survieable, the same cannot be said of a pedestrian collision with a car.

No question, although I don't think this bloke was too fussed whether
he killed someone or not!

dtmeister said:

It's true, there's a bad element in both groups. The difference is that our bad element doesn't tend to kill people...

Given how rude so many old people are, it's little wonder their offspring can be so [censored] rude. The next time someone is rude to me - young or old, I swear I'm going to slap them silly.

Lotte - not inciting violence against rude [censored] at all.

LotteBum said:

dtmeister said:

It's true, there's a bad element in both groups. The difference is that
our bad element doesn't tend to kill people...

Given how rude so many old people are, it's little wonder their
offspring can be so [censored] rude. The next time someone is rude to me
- young or old, I swear I'm going to slap them silly.

Lotte - not inciting violence against rude [censored] at all.

Now I'm living in fear.

Tam*on best behaviour until further notice*

LotteBum said:

Given how rude so many old people are, it's little wonder their
offspring can be so [censored] rude.

Stereotyping the parents by the behaviour of their offspring?

Theo
(Older [censored])

Theo Bekkers said:

LotteBum said:

Given how rude so many old people are, it's little wonder their
offspring can be so [censored] rude.

Stereotyping the parents by the behaviour of their offspring?

Theo
(Older [censored])

No, Lotte has had several recent incidents with horrifically rude old
people. I don't know where they all come from. The old people in my
neighbourhood are lovely. The middle-aged ones not so - they are the
eye contact avoiders. Except for a notable few who always smile and say
a few words... they're not native English speakers, apparently. I
wonder if they were taught English overseas. They were at least taught
some manners, which is something that seems to be lacking in our
education system.

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(Older [censored])

Quoted message said:

No, Lotte has had several recent incidents with horrifically rude old
people. I don't know where they all come from.

Does she operate a "rude old person" attracter? :-)

Quoted message said:

The old people in my
neighbourhood are lovely. The middle-aged ones not so - they are the
eye contact avoiders. Except for a notable few who always smile and
say a few words... they're not native English speakers, apparently. I
wonder if they were taught English overseas. They were at least
taught some manners, which is something that seems to be lacking in
our education system.

I suppose you learn manners from your parents and peers. Like any behaviour,
if it is not rewarded, people stop doing it.

English was not my first language and I didn't learn it overseas either.
Couldn't speak a word when I got here. Thanks to my Aunt's record player and
the popularity of the song, I did know and could sing all the words to "How
much is that doggy in the window" without a clue what the song was about.

Theo

Theo Bekkers said:

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(Older [censored])

Quoted message said:

No, Lotte has had several recent incidents with horrifically rude old
people. I don't know where they all come from.

Does she operate a "rude old person" attracter? :-)

Maybe Simon (one of her dogs) would count as one of those?

I certainly must possess a "strange" attractor. *cough*

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The old people in my
neighbourhood are lovely. The middle-aged ones not so - they are the
eye contact avoiders. Except for a notable few who always smile and
say a few words... they're not native English speakers, apparently. I
wonder if they were taught English overseas. They were at least
taught some manners, which is something that seems to be lacking in
our education system.

I suppose you learn manners from your parents and peers. Like any behaviour,
if it is not rewarded, people stop doing it.

Similarly, if rudeness is ignored, people keep doing it.

Quoted message said:

English was not my first language and I didn't learn it overseas either.
Couldn't speak a word when I got here. Thanks to my Aunt's record player and
the popularity of the song, I did know and could sing all the words to "How
much is that doggy in the window" without a clue what the song was about.

Theo

Hehehe. I know a few opera numbers... can't speak a word of Italian
though. (Except pastas.)

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I suppose you learn manners from your parents and peers. Like any
behaviour, if it is not rewarded, people stop doing it.

Quoted message said:

Similarly, if rudeness is ignored, people keep doing it.

Agreed. How does one repair rudeness?

By being rude in return? Slapping their faces? That would be like preventing
war with a Doomsday machine eh? :-)

Theo

Theo Bekkers said:

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I suppose you learn manners from your parents and peers. Like any
behaviour, if it is not rewarded, people stop doing it.

Quoted message said:

Similarly, if rudeness is ignored, people keep doing it.

Agreed. How does one repair rudeness?

By being rude in return? Slapping their faces? That would be like preventing
war with a Doomsday machine eh? :-)

Theo

I think it should be more about preventative action. Things like, if a
child doesn't say please, don't give them what they ask for. Ignore them
if they attempt to interrupt, until they learn to excuse themselves and
wait. Speak up if you see school kids on concession tickets hogging
seats on buses when adults are standing.

I'm quite fond of pointing out to people that they have pushed in front,
that the conditions of their concession fares state they must vacate
seats for adult passengers (and if they don't like that, they should go
to the driver and pay for a full fare ticket), etc.

Hmmm. Doomsday machine might be easier. I've always thought that, when
someone is rude, I'd just like to be still more rude, right back at
them. Like yell in their face or pick my nose and flick the goods at
them.

Tam

Theo Bekkers said:

By being rude in return? Slapping their faces? That would be like preventing
war with a Doomsday machine eh? :-)

Didn't America and Russia, having sush a prolific number of nukes stop a war from occuring???

Alot of rude people are all noise/hot air. If they actually thought that being rude would earn them a slap in the face then I imagine they would pick up their act pretty quickly.

I pity anyone who cuts lotte off/is rude this week. :eek: . Oh and that includes me of course 🙁

Tamyka Bell said:

Hmmm. Doomsday machine might be easier. I've always thought that, when
someone is rude, I'd just like to be still more rude, right back at
them. Like yell in their face or pick my nose and flick the goods at
them.

How would they tell the difference?

I got to get me one of them doomsday machines ...

Paulie-AU said:

Theo Bekkers said:

By being rude in return? Slapping their faces? That would be like

preventing

Quoted message said:

war with a Doomsday machine eh? :-)

Didn't America and Russia, having sush a prolific number of nukes stop
a war from occuring???

Alot of rude people are all noise/hot air. If they actually thought
that being rude would earn them a slap in the face then I imagine they
would pick up their act pretty quickly.

I pity anyone who cuts lotte off/is rude this week. :eek: . Oh and
that includes me of course 🙁

I'm surprised you didn't cop a backhand yesterday, mister! :P

Tam

Bleve said:

Tamyka Bell said:

Hmmm. Doomsday machine might be easier. I've always thought that, when
someone is rude, I'd just like to be still more rude, right back at
them. Like yell in their face or pick my nose and flick the goods at
them.

How would they tell the difference?

Grrr.

Quoted message said:

I got to get me one of them doomsday machines ...

Try Ebay?

Tam

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tamyka Bell said:

Things like, if a
child doesn't say please, don't give them what they ask for. Ignore them
if they attempt to interrupt, until they learn to excuse themselves and
wait. Speak up if you see school kids on concession tickets hogging
seats on buses when adults are standing.

I'm quite fond of pointing out to people that they have pushed in front,
that the conditions of their concession fares state they must vacate
seats for adult passengers (and if they don't like that, they should go
to the driver and pay for a full fare ticket), etc.

Um, Tam, you're sounding like one of those old people ;-)

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Shane Stanley

Shane Stanley said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tamyka Bell said:

Things like, if a
child doesn't say please, don't give them what they ask for. Ignore them
if they attempt to interrupt, until they learn to excuse themselves and
wait. Speak up if you see school kids on concession tickets hogging
seats on buses when adults are standing.

I'm quite fond of pointing out to people that they have pushed in front,
that the conditions of their concession fares state they must vacate
seats for adult passengers (and if they don't like that, they should go
to the driver and pay for a full fare ticket), etc.

Um, Tam, you're sounding like one of those old people ;-)

Yeah, but I pack a bigger punch. :P

T

Shane Stanley said:

Tamyka Bell <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Things like, if a
child doesn't say please, don't give them what they ask for. Ignore
them if they attempt to interrupt, until they learn to excuse
themselves and wait. Speak up if you see school kids on concession
tickets hogging seats on buses when adults are standing.

I'm quite fond of pointing out to people that they have pushed in
front, that the conditions of their concession fares state they must
vacate seats for adult passengers (and if they don't like that, they
should go to the driver and pay for a full fare ticket), etc.

Quoted message said:

Um, Tam, you're sounding like one of those old people ;-)

Hehe.

Theo

Tamyka Bell said:

Quoted message said:

I got to get me one of them doomsday machines ...

Try Ebay?

Merkin Muffley may have the plans yet ....