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  1. Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as the alternative road is
    horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which side they should be on
    (there are no signs to indicate). So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each
    stays to his/her left, but, if I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to stay on their right
    so I do the same on my bike. Is there a general rule here I should know about? Oh and if I'm passing
    a dog walker, invariably the owner stays on one side and the dog on the other with the lead
    stretched firmly across, until I sprint upto 30mph that is:-)

    thanks Russell

  2. Russell said:

    Is there a general rule here I should know about?

    Does it matter? Even if there is, it will be ignored by the pedestrians.

  3. (Marc) said:
    Russell said:

    Is there a general rule here I should know about?

    Does it matter? Even if there is, it will be ignored by the pedestrians.

    Just shout 'Banzai' and stick your elbows out.

    J

  4. "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    alternative road is horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which side
    they should be on (there are no signs to


    indicate).

    On all shared-use paths, pedestrians have absolute right of way. They can walk anywhere, and
    cyclists /must/ be prepared to stop is necessary - even if the brain dead ped step sideways into the
    side of you, you are the responsible party (sound familiar). Highway code, rule 48

    Dogs are a different matter. They should at all times be under control on a short leash when on a
    pavement or path shared with cyclists. Highway Code rule 42.

    Those are the rules, but they are far more honoured in the breach than the observance.

    E

  5. "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    alternative road is horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which side
    they should be on (there are no signs to


    indicate).

    Quoted message said:

    So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each stays to his/her left, but, if
    I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to


    stay

    Quoted message said:

    on their right so I do the same on my bike. Is there a general rule here I should know about? Oh
    and if I'm passing a dog walker, invariably the


    owner

    Quoted message said:

    stays on one side and the dog on the other with the lead stretched firmly across, until I sprint
    upto 30mph that is:-)

    Dunno. All ours are either well separated as here:
    btinternet.comJ2.JPG

    or so wide as they are converted from railway lines that peds are no problem.
    btinternet.comJ16.JPG

    --
    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  6. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Dunno. All ours are either well separated as here:
    btinternet.comJ2.JPG

    Well used I see !!

    Quoted message said:


    or so wide as they are converted from railway lines that peds are no problem.
    btinternet.comJ16.JPG

    Wow -- rush hour in Hull.

    T

    🙂

  7. John said:


    Just shout 'Banzai' and stick your elbows out.

    Must try that with cyclists when I'm driving

    Tony

    raven-family.comraven-family.com

    "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" George
    Bernard Shaw.

  8. Eddie Dubourg said:

    "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as the alternative road is
    horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which side they should be on
    (there are no signs to indicate).

    On all shared-use paths, pedestrians have absolute right of way. They can walk anywhere, and
    cyclists /must/ be prepared to stop is necessary - even if the brain dead ped step sideways into
    the side of you, you are the responsible party (sound familiar). Highway code, rule 48

    It depends very much on the width of the path, but this generally means that it's not possible to
    keep up a reasonable constant speed when using these paths, and any desire to do more than
    trundle along will involve slowing down to a standstill pretty often, and then accelerating off.
    On wider straighter paths with less frequent access points, such as converted railways, river and
    canalside paths, then it's possible to keep going without having to slow almost to a stop every
    100 metres or so.

    A

  9. "Tony W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Dunno. All ours are either well separated as here:
    btinternet.comJ2.JPG

    Well used I see !!

    At 0600 yes.

    Simon

  10. Tony Raven said:
    John said:


    Just shout 'Banzai' and stick your elbows out.

    Must try that with cyclists when I'm driving


    Don't forget to open your windows first: wouldn't like you to bruise your elbows now, would we.

  11. John said:
    (Marc) said:
    Russell said:

    Is there a general rule here I should know about?

    Does it matter? Even if there is, it will be ignored by the pedestrians.

    Just shout 'Banzai' and stick your elbows out.

    Shouting "A thousand years" doesn't make much sense...after all no-one could ride a bike for
    that long 🙂

    Regards,

    -david

  12. David Nutter said:
    John said:
    (Marc) said:

    Russell <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Is there a general rule here I should know about?

    Does it matter? Even if there is, it will be ignored by the pedestrians.

    Just shout 'Banzai' and stick your elbows out.

    Shouting "A thousand years" doesn't make much sense...after all no-one could ride a bike for
    that long 🙂

    I suppose it means "I've been stuck behind this pedestrian for ages - it seems like at least a
    thousand years"

    Tim
    --

    fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

  13. In message <[email hidden]>, Russell <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as the alternative road is
    horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which side they should be on
    (there are no signs to indicate). So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each
    stays to his/her left, but, if I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to stay on their right
    so I do the same on my bike. Is there a general rule here I should know about? Oh and if I'm
    passing a dog walker, invariably the owner stays on one side and the dog on the other with the lead
    stretched firmly across, until I sprint upto 30mph that is:-)

    I use a couple of stretches of Thames towpath on my commute, which are also used by a lot of
    runners, they always seem to run on the right hand side.

    Graham
    --
    Graham Glen

  14. Russell said:

    So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each stays to his/her left, but, if
    I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to stay on their right so I do the same on my bike.

    We should all have learnt to walk on the right when on a road without a pavement (except when that
    would mean walking on the inside of the bend). Such habits die hard, so it's only natural to walk on
    the right when on a shared use path. It took me a while to get used to it as a cyclist, but now that
    I expect it I no longer find it a problem (BTW schoolkids usually seem to walk on the left - I guess
    kids today aren't taught how to walk safely along country roads).

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a general rule here I should know about? Oh and if I'm passing a dog walker, invariably
    the owner stays on one side and the dog on the other with the lead stretched firmly across,

    Yup, that is a definite general rule :-(

    --
    Danny Colyer (remove safety to reply) ( juggler.netdanny ) Recumbent cycle page:
    speedy5.freeserve.co.ukrecumbents "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -
    Thomas Paine

  15. Danny Colyer <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Russell said:

    So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each stays to his/her left, but, if
    I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to stay on their right so I do the same on my bike.

    We should all have learnt to walk on the right when on a road without a pavement (except when that
    would mean walking on the inside of the bend). Such habits die hard, so it's only natural to walk
    on the right when on a shared use path. It took me a while to get used to it as a cyclist, but now
    that I expect it I no longer find it a problem (BTW schoolkids usually seem to walk on the left -
    I guess kids today aren't taught how to walk safely along country roads).

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a general rule here I should know about? Oh and if I'm passing a dog walker, invariably
    the owner stays on one side and the dog on the other with the lead stretched firmly across,

    Yup, that is a definite general rule :-(

    --
    Danny Colyer (remove safety to reply) ( juggler.netdanny ) Recumbent cycle page:
    speedy5.freeserve.co.ukrecumbents "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -
    Thomas Paine

    Thanks Danny, that brings the total of sensible answers upto ..... 2! Russell

  16. Danny Colyer said:
    Russell said:

    So far it *mostly* seems if cyclists are passing each other, each stays to his/her left, but, if
    I'm passing pedestrians, they seem to expect to stay on their right so I do the same on my bike.

    We should all have learnt to walk on the right when on a road without a pavement (except when that
    would mean walking on the inside of the bend). Such habits die hard, so it's only natural to walk
    on the right when on a shared use path. It took me a while to get used to it as a cyclist, but now
    that I expect it I no longer find it a problem (BTW schoolkids usually seem to walk on the left -
    I guess kids today aren't taught how to walk safely along country roads).


    ISTR being told that large groups should walk on the left. Can't see why it makes a difference,
    maybe it's to do with large groups being unlikely to stop in the face of oncoming motor vehicles, so
    it makes more sense for them to be passed more like a bike would be.

    A

  17. "Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote: ( ISTR being told that large groups should walk on the
    left. Can't see why it ) makes a difference, maybe it's to do with large groups being unlikely to (
    stop in the face of oncoming motor vehicles, so it makes more sense for them ) to be passed more
    like a bike would be.

    Highway Code, rule 5, which also says carry lights.

    5 Organised walks. Groups of people should use a path if available; if one is not, they
    should keep to the left. Look-outs should be positioned at the front and back of the group,
    and they should wear fluorescent clothes in daylight and reflective clothes in the dark. At
    night, the look-out in front should carry a white light and the one at the back a red light.
    People on the outside of large groups should also carry lights and wear reflective clothing.

    A march is vehicular walking.

  18. "Eddie Dubourg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry if this has been done before but..

    I normally avoid shared cycle/pedestrian lanes but there is one I use as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    alternative road is horrendous at busy times. The thing is nobody really seems to know which
    side they should be on (there are no signs to


    indicate).

    On all shared-use paths, pedestrians have absolute right of way. They can walk anywhere, and
    cyclists /must/ be prepared to stop is necessary - even if the brain dead ped step sideways into
    the side of you, you are the responsible party (sound familiar). Highway code, rule 48

    A very sensible rule. Now, can we have that for shared-use roads as well?

  19. (Rory) said:
    Quoted message said:

    On all shared-use paths, pedestrians have absolute right of way.

    Quoted message said:

    A very sensible rule. Now, can we have that for shared-use roads as well?

    I think we already do.

    Guy
    ===
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    dynamic DNS permitting)
    NOTE: BT Openworld have now blocked port 25 (without notice), so old mail addresses may no longer
    work. Apologies.

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