Sheryl does good

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Philip W. Moore said:

Big Gay Ben,

Kunichilitis is spreading faster like bird flu.

Kumbaya, Donald, Kumbaya.

Philip W. Moore said:

Big Gay Ben,

Juris Dr. Phil,

Is that supposed to be an insult or a compliment? I'll take
it as the latter.

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I guess there's no such thing as America then. In fact, we ought to refer
to the whole world as Pangea from the time there was only one land mass on
the entire earth. Why? Because that's where we all come from.

As bacteria, definitely. I think Africa was a separate continent
by the time humans showed up. It might not be such a bad
idea to get rid of all the labels. I got the impression Amit was
needling Mad Dog's overbearing post rather than writing a
dissertation on American music.

But regardless, are you sure you want to decide who can
and cannot talk about music and culture based on
Canadianness and Indianness, on their nationality and
ethnicity? I mean, feel free to do that if you want, but
do it consistently. The next time some Americans
complain about Leblanc and the Tour de France, or some
Euro badmouths pushy American cyclists, point out that
it's the Frenchies' tour and we have no standing to talk
[censored] about it, by your rules. Also, say hi to Pat Buchanan
for me at the next Defenders of American Culture meeting.

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But regardless, are you sure you want to decide who can
and cannot talk about music and culture based on
Canadianness and Indianness, on their nationality and
ethnicity? I mean, feel free to do that if you want, but
do it consistently. The next time some Americans
complain about Leblanc and the Tour de France, or some
Euro badmouths pushy American cyclists, point out that
it's the Frenchies' tour and we have no standing to talk
[censored] about it, by your rules. Also, say hi to Pat Buchanan
for me at the next Defenders of American Culture meeting.

I don't have to be consistent. I do, however, find it funny that Amit was
piping up in thread about Sheryl Crow and Johnny Cash. And I'm not a Pat
Buchanon fan. I am a Yellow Dog Democrat sans the PC mania.

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Mad Dog said:

Jim Flom says...

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Mad Dog wrote

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Oh, or do you refer to the Nashville establishment
mainstream press? They never respected Johnny, so what's the big deal?

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They respected him early, but not late in his career.

That's debatable. Fairly early in his career, he helped to put an end to the
established practices in Nashville. You know - using the same studio musicians
on every record and that hyper-sweet Atkins production. Yecch - a little of
that syrup goes a long way. There were many in the press that didn't like
seeing Chet Atkin's system take it on the chin and they alternately ignored Cash
or tried to diss him more openly. He got kicked out of the Grand Ole Opry at a
pretty young age, so what kind of respect was that?

If young Cash got any respect from the mainstream Nashville press, it was
because the people spoke with their money. They loved his music and maybe even
more importantly, what he stood for. How can you be a critic and completely
ignore your constituency? Reminds me of the early days of Led Zeppelin, Frank
Zappa and others. Any of you actually read the real-time Rolling Stone reviews
of the early Zep LPs? They HATED them.

I do not align myself with Rolling Stone.
I hated Lead Zipper then and hate them now.
I find their music repetitive and uninspired;
they deliberately appeal to the they-peaked-in-high-school crowd.
From that era The Who and Iggy Pop.
Saw and heard him on stage when he was Iggy Stooge in 1969.
I have a (relatively) recent cover by Iggy Pop of `Shaking All Over.'
Sometimes put the volume to eleven for my deaf old ears.
Some folks are still rocking; such as Link Wray.

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Years later, after the public had
clearly spoken, "improved" reviews that glowed all over the legacy were
generated. Such is the fate of those that dare to do something different.
Remember, the "mainstream" press dissed Beethoven's late string quartets.
Ludwig got the last laugh on that one too.

I'm with Beethoven. He knew how to have fun,
such as codas that never end.
The eighth symphony is often overlooked
because it is so cheerful that one may stop paying attention,
and miss all the rest.

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Hence, the famous full-page "finger" ad.

That's a classic. I saw it as meaning: "You ain't rid of me yet!"

--
Michael Press

Michael Press says...

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I do not align myself with Rolling Stone.

Neither do I, but was using their approval stamp as proof of mainstream
acceptance of the Cash AR releases. Other examples might be all of the Grammys
he won for them, etc. And this is no more an endorsement of the Grammys from me
than is my mention of Rolling Stone.

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I hated Lead Zipper then and hate them now.
I find their music repetitive and uninspired;
they deliberately appeal to the they-peaked-in-high-school crowd.

They probably hated you too. And beware, the devil is on their side. Of course
their music is repetitive - how else can you get a bunch of drunk, doped up kids
to remember when to nod their heads? But my point in mentioning Zeppelin was
not about the quality of their music - it was about how the mainstream press is
more about aligning themselves with their buying public than it is about
providing penetrating perspective. (There, in one paragraph, I managed to say
something about dope and penetration - the former is to keep this on rbr topic
and the latter is for H2 to consider)

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From that era The Who and Iggy Pop.
Saw and heard him on stage when he was Iggy Stooge in 1969.
I have a (relatively) recent cover by Iggy Pop of `Shaking All Over.'
Sometimes put the volume to eleven for my deaf old ears.

This doesn't make sense. You diss on Zep for being repetitive then drool on
Iggy? Actually, Zep had their moments and I liked Raw Power too. I saw the
ZOSO tour and it was played very well. Great sound for the era and they knew
how to turn it up to eleven better than Spinal Tap. Saw Iggy once and he was
pretty weird, kinda looked like he'd taken a shower in 5 weight motor oil (it
was probably DNA-rich bodily fluids from the band). But they did rock out.

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Some folks are still rocking; such as Link Wray.

Sorry, he never did much for me. I found his music repetitive and uninspired.

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I'm with Beethoven. He knew how to have fun,
such as codas that never end.

In 1970, the Beethoven-Archiv and Duetch Grammophone put out a collection of his
music - sitting side by side the LPs take up about 1.5' of shelf space. Along
with it came an LP-size biography that is incredible. It's worth a read, even
to those that have read other Ludwig bios.

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The eighth symphony is often overlooked
because it is so cheerful that one may stop paying attention,
and miss all the rest.

Hell yea. Very impressionistic. If you can get your hands on the
Norrington/LCP version, check it out.

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Mad Dog said:

Hell yea. Very impressionistic. If you can get your hands on the
Norrington/LCP version, check it out.

I will, thanks.

--
Michael Press