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  1. Hi there,

    I'm looking for some help and opinions on a dilemma
    I'm facing.

    I have a OCR2 with a Tiagra triple group set. I'm looking at
    upgrading and have recently bought a Ultegra triple
    crankset. My next purchases were going to be a Dura Ace
    triple RD, a Ultegra triple FD and a set of Ultegra
    shifters. I've done some reading of reviews and which have
    not painted the Ultegra shifters in a very good light ie
    multiple failures, rattling etc.

    I know you can mix Campag. with Shimano components but I'm a
    new kid on the bloke in regards to cycling and I'm not
    entirely sure of the combo's.

    I have some questions below and would appreciate your
    expertise.

    If I were to purchase Campag. shifters then will they work
    with my Ultegra triple cranks, cassette, and current Tiagra
    triple FD? If so then in order for them to work I must buy a
    Triple/long cage Campag. RD? Will my Ultegra chain need
    replacing with a Campag. chain? Do I have buy 9 speed Campag
    shifters and RD or can I buy a 10 speed? Finally, what's the
    honest opinion regarding mixing Shimano/Campag. Is it more
    hassle than it's worth? Will the different components work
    together smoothly or will they require constant adjustments
    and fiddling around?

    I look forward to your help or opinions on this topic and I
    apologise if it's all been discussed before but as I've
    mentioned earlier I'm fairly new to all of this.

    Many thanks in advance

  2. more hassle than its worth (and Im biased towards the 'italian'😉.
    Stay with the Sushi!

    you can use campy ergos with Shimano RDs. just turning the clamping mech on it 90degree holds the cable in just the right place

    there's a relevant thread on cyclingplus.co.uk that will interest you, perhaps

    youre biggest issues are differing cable-pull and cassette-gaps-distances

    the longcage may not be necessary (and is only a couple of differing/interchangeable parts on campag) as long as you stay away from the small-small and big-big combos (but you knew that, right?)

    All other biases aside, mixing bits on Shimano is a head-ache even in 2004 whereas post 2001 campag you can mix-match almost anything (and ALL ergos operate both double/triple front mechs!)

  3. Bluenose said:

    I have some questions below and would appreciate your
    expertise.

    Quoted message said:

    If I were to purchase Campag. shifters then will they work
    with my Ultegra triple cranks, cassette, and current Tiagra
    triple FD?

    Yes, but you'll need nine speed shifters. They can be bought that way (even Record/Chorus/Daytona) or you can buy ten speed ones and swap out the indexing plate.

    Quoted message said:

    If so then in order for them to work I must buy a
    Triple/long cage Campag. RD?

    Yup. Triples won't work well with short cage derailleurs of any persuasion.

    Quoted message said:

    Will my Ultegra chain need


    replacing with a Campag. chain?

    No. Use any nine speed chain. I like the SRAM ones, as they come with a powerlink thingy that makes removal easy.

    Quoted message said:

    Do I have buy 9 speed Campag shifters and RD or can I buy a 10
    speed?

    Buy either nine or ten speed derailleur. Difference is not noticeable. Nine speed shifters work much better than ten, unless you come up with some really creative spacers on your cassette.

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, what's the honest opinion regarding mixing
    Shimano/Campag. Is it more hassle than it's worth? Will the different
    components work together smoothly or will they require constant
    adjustments and fiddling around?

    Campy nine and Shimano nine play well together, as long as you match shifters and rear derailleur. Campy shifters are IMHO _much_ better than Shimano, as they're rebuildable. I'd go with the Campy nine speed derailleur and shifters.

    Regards,

    Suzy

  4. Quoted message said:

    Originally posted by suzyj
    I like the SRAM ones, as they >come with a powerlink
    thingy that makes removal easy.

    How do you actually remove these?
    I looked at one once and tried to pop it open - no luck.
    Out came the chain breaker...

    Any hints?

    hippy

  5. hippy said:

    How do you actually remove these?
    I looked at one once and tried to pop it open - no luck.
    Out came the chain breaker...

    Quoted message said:

    Any hints?

    There's a bit of a knack to it. You grab the chain either side of the powerlink and push the powerlink in on itself. Some WD40 or similar helps if it's particularly grimy. The trick is to work out which side of the chain moves which way, and apply pressure appropriately, while not allowing the pivots to rotate.

    One of those things where a quick demo is worth pages of explanation.

    Regards,

    Suzy

  6. Quoted message said:

    Originally posted by suzyj
    There's a bit of a knack to it. You grab the chain either side of >the powerlink and push the powerlink in on itself. Some WD40 >or similar helps if it's particularly grimy. The trick is to work out >which side of the chain moves which way, and apply pressure >appropriately, while not allowing the pivots to rotate.

    I remembered how it went together so did try to squeeze it
    together. Guess it's just one of those things where you need
    to have the 'knack'. I'll try again one day.. unless the breaker is
    handy <cue evil laugh sfx> bwahahahahaha! 😉

    cheers!
    hippy

  7. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by hippy
    >Originally posted by suzyj

    Quoted message said:

    I like the SRAM ones, as they >come with a powerlink
    thingy that makes removal easy.



    How do you actually remove these?
    I looked at one once and tried to pop it open - no luck.
    Out came the chain breaker...

    Any hints?

    hippy

    not sure if they are the same as the Connex ones for campag chains but you just push the links together (along chainline direction) which gives you some slack and allows you to twist them apart. easy peasey japanesey!

    JJJ

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    I find it helps to clean the gunk off the link then you push
    it together but with a bit of a sideways motion. Before
    doing all that take the chain off the cogs at both ends so
    it does not have any tension on it.

    hippy said:
    Quoted message said:

    Originally posted by suzyj I like the SRAM ones, as they

    Quoted message said:

    come with a powerlink thingy that makes removal easy.

    How do you actually remove these? I looked at one once and
    tried to pop it open - no luck. Out came the chain
    breaker...

    Any hints?

    hippy

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