Shimano cassettes

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dgregory57 said:

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Well, i am familiar with IRD but they have terrible reviews. They don't work with shimano.
thanks though

rparedes said:

Well, i am familiar with IRD but they have terrible reviews. They don't work with shimano.
thanks though

I don't think IRD cassettes work well with anyone's gruppo.

SRAM makes an 11-28. I know that SRAM 10 spd cassettes work with some Shimano 10 spd hubs, but I don't know if they work with both of 'em, the deep splined and the shallow splined. If they'll fit on the hub, they'll work since they share the same cog spacing.

alienator said:

I don't think IRD cassettes work well with anyone's gruppo.

SRAM makes an 11-28. I know that SRAM 10 spd cassettes work with some Shimano 10 spd hubs, but I don't know if they work with both of 'em, the deep splined and the shallow splined. If they'll fit on the hub, they'll work since they share the same cog spacing.

Sram cogsets won't fit onto shimano 10s specific, deep splined freehub bodies like 7800/10 and some ultegra complete wheelsets.

alienator said:

I don't think IRD cassettes work well with anyone's gruppo.

SRAM makes an 11-28. I know that SRAM 10 spd cassettes work with some Shimano 10 spd hubs, but I don't know if they work with both of 'em, the deep splined and the shallow splined. If they'll fit on the hub, they'll work since they share the same cog spacing.

The SRAM 11/28 will work. I was just wondering if anybody makes a 12/28. It would be perfect for me. I never would use the 11 and I would give up a middle gear, in addition, there are about 4 other gears that are duplicated (with a 50/34 compact). I currently swap my 12/25 with a 12/27 when I head for the hills, but I could use one more gear on the long climbs, so the 28 tooth cog would be perfect.
How come campy users get to enjoy a 29 and even a 30?, I think.
It's not fair 🙁

rparedes said:

The SRAM 11/28 will work. I was just wondering if anybody makes a 12/28. It would be perfect for me.

Actually, what would be perfect would be if the manufacturers just made a range of cogs and spacers so that us riders could put together whatever gearing range we wanted. I don't know how it is on Shimano cassettes or SRAM cassettes, but on Campy's latest, depending on the cassette, there are between 0 and 3 2-cog clusters. Since sometimes that means an owner, when reinstalling a cassette, might have to do something dangerous like slide a cog on, follow that with a spacer, and then slide another cog on, I think it's fairly safe to say that anyone who can do that can also slide on 10 cogs and 8 or 9 (depending on the maker) spacers. It's not all that tricky. If when you were little, you could place the round plastic donut on the bright read plastic post that rocked back and forth, you can put a cog on.

rparedes said:

The SRAM 11/28 will work. I was just wondering if anybody makes a 12/28. It would be perfect for me. I never would use the 11 and I would give up a middle gear, in addition, there are about 4 other gears that are duplicated (with a 50/34 compact). I currently swap my 12/25 with a 12/27 when I head for the hills, but I could use one more gear on the long climbs, so the 28 tooth cog would be perfect.
How come campy users get to enjoy a 29 and even a 30?, I think.
It's not fair 🙁

BBB parts make a Shimano compatible 12/28.

alienator said:

Actually, what would be perfect would be if the manufacturers just made a range of cogs and spacers so that us riders could put together whatever gearing range we wanted. I don't know how it is on Shimano cassettes or SRAM cassettes, but on Campy's latest, depending on the cassette, there are between 0 and 3 2-cog clusters. Since sometimes that means an owner, when reinstalling a cassette, might have to do something dangerous like slide a cog on, follow that with a spacer, and then slide another cog on, I think it's fairly safe to say that anyone who can do that can also slide on 10 cogs and 8 or 9 (depending on the maker) spacers. It's not all that tricky. If when you were little, you could place the round plastic donut on the bright read plastic post that rocked back and forth, you can put a cog on.

You have way too much faith in grease monkeys. Ever notice how many an LBS have the mechanics hidden, tucked away in the back... 😄

alienator said:

Actually, what would be perfect would be if the manufacturers just made a range of cogs and spacers so that us riders could put together whatever gearing range we wanted. I don't know how it is on Shimano cassettes or SRAM cassettes, but on Campy's latest, depending on the cassette, there are between 0 and 3 2-cog clusters. Since sometimes that means an owner, when reinstalling a cassette, might have to do something dangerous like slide a cog on, follow that with a spacer, and then slide another cog on, I think it's fairly safe to say that anyone who can do that can also slide on 10 cogs and 8 or 9 (depending on the maker) spacers. It's not all that tricky. If when you were little, you could place the round plastic donut on the bright read plastic post that rocked back and forth, you can put a cog on.

11s will have spidered sections, as do Sram(powerdome is one piece until the last cog) and DA/Ultegra have spidered sections. BUT Veloce is all loose cog(10s) and when Veloce/Centaur goes to 11s(which it probably will in 2010), Veloce will probably be loose cog as well. In fairness, Only Campagnolo makes a all loose cog 10s cogset, 105 and Rival are pinned/hooked together on some of the cogs anyway. .

I talked to a Campag guy and he said the MOST DIFFUCULT THING they make is cogsets, so not surprised they don't change much.

toomanybikes said:

BBB parts make a Shimano compatible 12/28.

That looks like what I need.... Having a hard time finding it though... only in Australia? sent email to see if they are any dealers in my area.
thanks!

rparedes said:

That looks like what I need.... Having a hard time finding it though... only in Australia? sent email to see if they are any dealers in my area.
thanks!

Try here,

http://www.parker-international.co.uk/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/3783/groupID/3/categoryID/38/v/fc8cf625-31f9-4108-8564-50c30a92bc97

threaded said:

You have way too much faith in grease monkeys. Ever notice how many an LBS have the mechanics hidden, tucked away in the back... 😄

I don't know about the rest of the world, or even other parts of the USA, but in our little corner of the universe the LBSs have started situating thier repair facility out in the open where the customers can watch what is being done to thier bikes. And in most cases, questions about what is being done and why are welcome.

kdelong said:

I don't know about the rest of the world, or even other parts of the USA, but in our little corner of the universe the LBSs have started situating thier repair facility out in the open where the customers can watch what is being done to thier bikes. And in most cases, questions about what is being done and why are welcome.

Also in little shops like ours where the 3 wrenches also sell(total number of people), so it really isn't possible to hide in the back.

toomanybikes said:

Try here,

http://www.parker-international.co.uk/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/3783/groupID/3/categoryID/38/v/fc8cf625-31f9-4108-8564-50c30a92bc97

Tried to order today BUT they don't ship to US...
😠

Peter@vecchios said:

Also in little shops like ours where the 3 wrenches also sell(total number of people), so it really isn't possible to hide in the back.

My LBS, Fairwheel Bikes, has a diner like counter on one side of the work area where customers can sit, BS, eat, read a magazine, harass the mechanics, and etc. There's no door to walk through to get there, and some bike parts are on display or on sales racks back there, things like brake pads, cables/housings, seatposts, handlebars.......mind you those parts are right there for the customers to grab.

alienator said:

My LBS, Fairwheel Bikes, has a diner like counter on one side of the work area where customers can sit, BS, eat, read a magazine, harass the mechanics, and etc. There's no door to walk through to get there, and some bike parts are on display or on sales racks back there, things like brake pads, cables/housings, seatposts, handlebars.......mind you those parts are right there for the customers to grab.

My LBS was kinda loose like that... then it became "organized": sales floor, repair shop and "fitness area"... Now the sales guys know very little about what works and how it performs...
Progress?

rparedes said:

Tried to order today BUT they don't ship to US...
😠

I mis-understood, sorry.

I thought you were in Australia.

There is a store in Vancouver called La Bicicletta ( not the same as the one in New York / Toronto) which carries BBB, is related to the Canadian distributor and I am sure will mail to you.

http://www.labiciclettaproshop.com/

Let me know how it works out, worst case, one of my LBS's here sells BBB and I can prolly have them order it.

alienator said:

My LBS, Fairwheel Bikes, has a diner like counter on one side of the work area where customers can sit, BS, eat, read a magazine, harass the mechanics, and etc. There's no door to walk through to get there, and some bike parts are on display or on sales racks back there, things like brake pads, cables/housings, seatposts, handlebars.......mind you those parts are right there for the customers to grab.

Yep, we have a little 'living room' in the back, TV, frig with barley pops in it, bike [censored] via DVD and tape. Next to my bench, the other 2 are in the middle of the shop. Too many bike shops make it seem like ya gotta have a certain bike or credentials to get 'into' the shop. geeezzz, these are just toys, afterall.

One shop in Boulder is so impersonal, makes it seem like you are going to the dentist. Serious, furrowed brows and all.

Peter@vecchios said:

Yep, we have a little 'living room' in the back, TV, frig with barley pops in it, bike [censored] via DVD and tape. Next to my bench, the other 2 are in the middle of the shop. Too many bike shops make it seem like ya gotta have a certain bike or credentials to get 'into' the shop. geeezzz, these are just toys, afterall.

One shop in Boulder is so impersonal, makes it seem like you are going to the dentist. Serious, furrowed brows and all.

the difference between a 34/27 and a 34/28 is only one gear-inch. not hardly worth the effort of trying to find a 12-28 cassette.