There is a solution to your problem. Depending on which feature you are showing it will display the gear combination or not. I forgot which one but it's easy to find it by just going from one display setting to another and then shift. If you don't have your bike handy you can Google it since this was discussed here not too many months ago.
I'll check it out. Thanks, Per.
Matt O.
I just got off my bike and remembered to check. When you have the cadence setting as the main display it will not show the gear combo as you change gears.
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Is anyone using the Shimano 6501 Flight Deck computer? Like it? Hate it?
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many bells and whistles? I kinda like the gear indicator and the fact that you can punch up info from the buttons on your hoods...mto
I think they are pretty nice. I had one on my mtn bike. The cadence function w/out having to run a second wire to your cranks is quite nice! If you do the wireless setup then all the better.
The only real downside is when you change your cassette or use a wheelset w/ a different cassette than that which is programmed into the computer.
The only real downside is when you change your cassette or use a wheelset w/ a different cassette than that which is programmed into the computer.
Dave
That's not really a problem once you learn how to manage your flitedeck. You can have four different bikesetups programmed so all you need to do is switch between them or add new ones as you buy new wheels. Once you've done that a couple of times it's really easy.
Not if your computer wakes up as the wheel spins. That makes it seem like it is never going into sleep mode when not in use. I have to push a button on the underside of the computer to wake it up from sleep mode.
My impresion was that the 6500 model woke on spin, but the current 6501 requires a button press. There are a few other subtle differences there as well (different manuals, etc). I wish I could press one of the hood buttons to wake my 6501 instead of requiring the on-computer button.
-alan
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The gear indicator is neat. It's one of those things I'd never think I'd need, but appreciate after having it.
OK... but why? I must say, I always know what gear I'm in anyway...
I don't always know exactly which gear I'm in. It's nice to be able to throw a quick glance at the gear graphics just before I hit an incline, steep bend or anything else where I'm liable to maybe outshift the frontring I'm in. Whoops no more gears, I gotta double shift, damn, lost my place in the paceline coming out of the band and have to burn another match to catch up. You know we haven't all grown as one with our bikes even though we'd love to. Shimano knows there are more of us than you 😉
The gear indicator is neat. It's one of those things I'd never think I'd need, but appreciate after having it.
OK... but why? I must say, I always know what gear I'm in anyway...
I don't. I forget all the time. I use the gears intuitively and by feel. I'm prone to running cross-chained, etc., if I don't remember to check occasionally.
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The gear indicator is neat. It's one of those things I'd never think I'd need, but appreciate after having it.
OK... but why? I must say, I always know what gear I'm in anyway...
On a tandem, it's a lot easier to look at the computer display than to try to look back at the cassette. The computer check, however, usually follows an unsuccessful casual glance under my right elbow. What creatures of habit we are!
Reliability of the Shimano Flight Deck seems to be directly related to the number that a shop has installed. We sell (and install) 400+/year, and the number coming back to us, despite the complexity of the interface (not just the setup on the computer, but the way the wiring harness attaches to the levers), is EXTREMELY low. Its reliability is on par with CatEye, which mean excellent.
Having said that, it's funny how often the few "defective" computers are ones installed by newer mechanics. The guys who have been around for a while never have them come back with problems. It's the sort of thing where after you've installed 10 or 20 of them, you've got it down good and you'll never have a problem. Most of the issues deal with the connection between the harness and the brake lever, by the way.
How is the reliability for those of us who sweat profusely? My LBS doesn't recommend the Flight Deck because they say they will become unreliable when sweat gets in the hoods. Is this a real problem? Any way to overcome it if real?
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The gear indicator is neat. It's one of those things I'd never think I'd need, but appreciate after having it.
OK... but why? I must say, I always know what gear I'm in anyway...
On a tandem, it's a lot easier to look at the computer display than to try to look back at the cassette.
At the cassette?
Ah, I get it; this is a problem with brifters, isn't it? If I get mixed up, which doesn't happen very often, I put my hand on the gear lever. -- David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!
Interesting to know. Was going to get one of the net and install myself. Think I'll get one from the LBS instead and get them to install it. The extra cost is worth it for the extra reliability.
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I was talking to my LBS about the Flight Deck and he recommended against
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He said that the Cateye products were much less complicated and more reliable. In addition, he mentioned the availability of rear pickups for other brands. I'm still undecided. I do like the simple Cateye computers like the Mity 3. Many other brands like the Topeak Panoram are too complicated to use.
Reliability of the Shimano Flight Deck seems to be directly related to the number that a shop has installed. We sell (and install) 400+/year, and
the
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number coming back to us, despite the complexity of the interface (not
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the setup on the computer, but the way the wiring harness attaches to the levers), is EXTREMELY low. Its reliability is on par with CatEye, which mean excellent.
Having said that, it's funny how often the few "defective" computers are ones installed by newer mechanics. The guys who have been around for a while never have them come back with problems. It's the sort of thing
where
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after you've installed 10 or 20 of them, you've got it down good and
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never have a problem. Most of the issues deal with the connection between the harness and the brake lever, by the way.
Interesting to know. Was going to get one of the net and install myself. Think I'll get one from the LBS instead and get them to install it. The extra cost is worth it for the extra reliability.
I wasn't trying to scare anybody off, just point out that it's not one of the simpler things in life. It's also rather time-consuming to install. The biggest advantage to buying one from a shop and having them install it is that there wouldn't be any finger-pointing if something goes wrong (since a good shop will stand behind both the product and installation). But still, computer installation is one of those things that keeps hair- restoration products on the shelves.
How is the reliability for those of us who sweat profusely? My LBS doesn't recommend the Flight Deck because they say they will become unreliable when sweat gets in the hoods. Is this a real problem? Any way to overcome it if real?
To the best of my knowledge, I haven't seen one damaged by sweat. Most sweat drips down the center of the bike; the only way for it to get to the lever hoods would be if huge amounts were streaming down your arms. If you regularly find your lever hoods wet and your handlebar tape saturated, then maybe... otherwise, I don't think I'd worry about it.
How is the reliability for those of us who sweat profusely? My LBS doesn't recommend the Flight Deck because they say they will become unreliable when sweat gets in the hoods. Is this a real problem? Any way to overcome it if real?
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To the best of my knowledge, I haven't seen one damaged by sweat. Most sweat drips down the center of the bike; the only way for it to get to the lever hoods would be if huge amounts were streaming down your arms. If you regularly find your lever hoods wet and your handlebar tape saturated, then maybe... otherwise, I don't think I'd worry about it.
I think so too. The hoods probably seal water out pretty well.
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Matt O'Toole <[email hidden]> wrote: >The gear indicator is neat. It's one of those things >I'd never think
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>need, but appreciate after having it. OK... but why? I must say, I always know what gear I'm in anyway...
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to look back at the cassette.
At the cassette?
Ah, I get it; this is a problem with brifters, isn't it? If I get mixed up, which doesn't happen very often, I put my hand on the gear lever.
Even when I ride a bike with down tube shifters I look at the cassette. I don't think it's a habit that developed after starting to ride STI/Ergo. I'm pretty sure I did it even before SIS (index) shifters hit the market. Hell, I think I even did it when I rode a bike (Schwin Super Le Tour, I think) with shifters mounted at the top of the head tube.
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Mike Jacoubowsky said:
Reliability of the Shimano Flight Deck seems to be directly related to
the
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number that a shop has installed. We sell (and install) 400+/year, and
the
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number coming back to us, despite the complexity of the interface (not
just
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the setup on the computer, but the way the wiring harness attaches to
the
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levers), is EXTREMELY low. Its reliability is on par with CatEye, which mean excellent.
Having said that, it's funny how often the few "defective" computers are ones installed by newer mechanics. The guys who have been around for a while never have them come back with problems. It's the sort of thing
where
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after you've installed 10 or 20 of them, you've got it down good and
you'll
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never have a problem. Most of the issues deal with the connection
between
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the harness and the brake lever, by the way.
How is the reliability for those of us who sweat profusely? My LBS doesn't recommend the Flight Deck because they say they will become unreliable when sweat gets in the hoods. Is this a real problem? Any way to overcome it if real?
Do you wear gloves? If not, they may help w/this problem.
