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  1. I have a problem. I have size 41 shoe (Lake Mx220). This holds my
    foot securely in position when laced. So far so good. The width
    accomodates the widest part of my foot, just behind the toes. This is
    a very comfortable shoe for me over short distances (<100 miles). When
    I bought most of my shoes I size for width. And apart from my ski
    boots all my shoes are 7/41. All except the ski boots have excessive
    toe wriggle room which is normally nice to have.

    Most manufacturers claim (7 and 41) as equivalent. The problem is
    that I am 6 1/2 which is often 40.5 and sometimes 40. I found a nice
    table illustrating the conversion problem at a tennis shop
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/TWInt/Twint_Pages/shoe.html
    Nearly all bike shoe manufacturers make half sizes. As far as I know
    no british importer or shop imports half sizes. This leaves me with a
    problem. I have never found a size 40 sports shoe that fits.

    When I ride longer distances my toes become relaxed. As road
    vibration rattles the big toe and it is gently taps. As in the
    chinese water torture this eventually becomes painfull. On Saturday I
    abandoned a 400km ride after just 100km because I could feel the pain
    developing and was not looking forward to 15 hours of agony. I know
    Bigtoeitis does not rank large on cyclist foot problems but I'm a
    wimp. Most cyclists I have asked said they have never come across
    this problem before. Most said their feet were completely numb after
    a big ride. My feet stay alive which is mostly a good thing. I
    commented on Saturday, "I need to find a less comfortable shoe."

    Now it seems to me that it is important that for long distance cycling
    when I might be riding over 24hours I get a shoe that fits properly
    not just short term comfortable. It seems rediculous to me that
    expensive shoes like cycling shoes are not available in half sizes.

  2. As I understand it many 'half' sizes are no *longer* than their full
    sizes, so that a 7½ is wider but the same length as a 7.

    This could mean that a 6½ might not fit as well as you hope, as it migh
    be too short.

    (For women's shoes, a 41 miraculously becomes an 8, leaving my disters
    and Mum unable to get the size 42-3 shoes they need. I have 'little'
    size 7½ feet, so a 41's usually OK)

    AIUI Continental shoe size = [foot length in cm] * 1.5

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  3. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    As I understand it many 'half' sizes are no *longer* than their full
    sizes, so that a 7½ is wider but the same length as a 7.

    This could mean that a 6½ might not fit as well as you hope, as it migh
    be too short.

    (For women's shoes, a 41 miraculously becomes an 8, leaving my disters
    and Mum unable to get the size 42-3 shoes they need. I have 'little'
    size 7½ feet, so a 41's usually OK)

    AIUI Continental shoe size = [foot length in cm] * 1.5

    IME every different footwear maker has their own idea of what size and
    shape a Size X foot is, and the /only/ way to get a good idea of if
    it'll fit reasonably is to try it on in person.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  4. Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    IME every different footwear maker has their own idea of what size and
    shape a Size X foot is, and the /only/ way to get a good idea of if
    it'll fit reasonably is to try it on in person.

    Agreed.
    Same is true for clothes and saddles.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  5. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    As I understand it many 'half' sizes are no *longer* than their full
    sizes, so that a 7½ is wider but the same length as a 7.

    Sometimes.

    Quoted message said:


    This could mean that a 6½ might not fit as well as you hope, as it migh
    be too short.

    Unlikely. The shoes (not cycling) size 7/41 I am currently wearing
    have 2cm in front of the big toe, a little less for the little toe.
    But I am 6½ according to the Salomon scale used when I last bought ski
    boots (Nordica Beast 10) mondo size 25.0. The fitter told me off for
    saying I was size 7. My foot was well outside the width lines though.
    Modern ski boots are easier to fit because the tricky fine tuning is
    done with heat formed inner boots. Pity we can not get cycling shoes
    like that.

    I have not yet found a 40 in an ordinary shoe that fits me. This is
    usually a width problem.

    Quoted message said:


    (For women's shoes, a 41 miraculously becomes an 8, leaving my disters
    and Mum unable to get the size 42-3 shoes they need. I have 'little'
    size 7½ feet, so a 41's usually OK)

    AIUI Continental shoe size = [foot length in cm] * 1.5

    Close but not quite. Last Length, not foot length, in paris points.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size

    British sizes are based on barleycorns (1/3 inch).

    There is lots of information about shoe sizes but in practice
    manufacturers do not completely agree. Thats why I posted that tennis
    link in the earlier message where they had several manufacturers
    sizes. Possibly the last length varies friom shoe to shoe.

  6. Ian Blake <NoNotMe@NotAnywhere> of Posted via Supernews,

    urlhttp://www.supernews.com/url said:

    Now it seems to me that it is important that for long distance cycling
    when I might be riding over 24hours I get a shoe that fits properly
    not just short term comfortable. It seems rediculous to me that
    expensive shoes like cycling shoes are not available in half sizes.


    For adjustability of fit, the ultimate cycling footgear is Shimano SD60
    sandals. My feet are too wide for almost all cycling shoes, but the sandals
    use velcro adjustable straps at ankle and over the toes, so can be adjusted
    to fit exactly. BUT do buy in person, as the Shimano idea of length sizing
    doesn't seem to match anyone else's. I had to buy a larger than usual size
    to get the appropriate length.
    --
    Steph Peters
    Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group
    Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm

  7. In article <[email hidden]>

    Ian Blake NoNotMe@NotAnywhere said:

    I have a problem. I have size 41 shoe (Lake Mx220). This holds my
    foot securely in position when laced. So far so good. The width
    accomodates the widest part of my foot, just behind the toes. This is
    a very comfortable shoe for me over short distances (<100 miles). When
    I bought most of my shoes I size for width. And apart from my ski
    boots all my shoes are 7/41. All except the ski boots have excessive
    toe wriggle room which is normally nice to have.

    Most manufacturers claim (7 and 41) as equivalent. The problem is
    that I am 6 1/2 which is often 40.5 and sometimes 40. I found a nice
    table illustrating the conversion problem at a tennis shop
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/TWInt/Twint_Pages/shoe.html
    Nearly all bike shoe manufacturers make half sizes. As far as I know
    no british importer or shop imports half sizes. This leaves me with a
    problem. I have never found a size 40 sports shoe that fits.

    When I ride longer distances my toes become relaxed. As road
    vibration rattles the big toe and it is gently taps. As in the
    chinese water torture this eventually becomes painfull. On Saturday I
    abandoned a 400km ride after just 100km because I could feel the pain
    developing and was not looking forward to 15 hours of agony. I know
    Bigtoeitis does not rank large on cyclist foot problems but I'm a
    wimp. Most cyclists I have asked said they have never come across
    this problem before. Most said their feet were completely numb after
    a big ride. My feet stay alive which is mostly a good thing. I
    commented on Saturday, "I need to find a less comfortable shoe."


    Can you not pack your toes with bits of foam to stop them waggling
    around? Or have I not understood the problem?

  8. On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:14:30 +0100, Rob Morley <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Can you not pack your toes with bits of foam to stop them waggling
    around? Or have I not understood the problem?

    You have understood the problem. On Saturday I had my big toe
    protected by some cotton wool but it moved. In any case I still want
    a shoe that fits properly, it is the best solution.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    For adjustability of fit, the ultimate cycling footgear is Shimano SD60
    sandals. My feet are too wide for almost all cycling shoes, but the sandals
    use velcro adjustable straps at ankle and over the toes, so can be adjusted
    to fit exactly.

    I bought a pair of them once.

    The right one was /so/ too narrow that my foot went to sleep in 4 km.

    Given that this was riding out to the start of a 300, this may be
    accounted a Bad Thing.

    They soon found a new home.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    They came for Eamonn Holmes; I think I'm right in saying that I
    applauded.

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