Shoeless Joe...

Mamba said:

Not Joe Jackson, but shoeless nonetheless.

Returned last night from a visit to the old country (Canada) for Canuck
Thanksgiving. Got off the plane in Portland and picked up my duffel off the
carousel, only to find the end pockets open and my bike shoes missing.
Contents of said shoes included my pedals, gloves and bike tool. Damn!

So I talk to the Customer Service lady at United and she says she can fill
out forms, but suspects the TSA staff are at fault. There was indeed a TSA
inspection notice inside my bag. According to her, it's not uncommon for
TSA to take items out of a bag and forget to replace them, or mix up which
bag they belonged to. It makes sense that TSA would want to inspect a shoe
with a metal plate on the bottom and two other metal devices inside. I'm
all for cooperating, but now I'm out a pair of super comfy shoes, my nicely
worn cleats and pedals, and my confy gloves with the nice fuzzy snot-patch
on them... Not worth an insurance claim, but potentially spendy to replace.

I now have forms to file claims with both TSA and United, and my gut tells
me its a TSA issue. Anybody been down this path? I have no receipts for my
5 year old shoes or 4 year old pedals or 5 year old Alien tool. The TSA
wants documentation up the yin-yang to support claims (a seemingly blatant
ploy to make claimants go away) - am I pissing into the wind to try to get
them to make good on my stuff?

The worst of it is, I had to drive to work today, and after a Thanksgiving
weekend, I need all the exercise I can get!

Bummer!

It's funny how once you buy into clipless pedals how shoes become a
dominant factor in riding. You can pack the car with everything: bike,
helmet, clothes, snacks, whatever, but if you forget your shoes at
home...well...it's hard to get excited about pedalling in sneakers
atop some Atacs. I've also got three different pedal systems: Atacs,
Shimano SPDs, and Shimano Ultegra road pedals, with different shoes
for each. Effin' ridiculous. I used to keep an extra, old pair of
shoes in the trunk of the car, but should have kept a pair of pedals w/
cages there instead.

/s

Scott Gordo said:

Mamba said:

Not Joe Jackson, but shoeless nonetheless.

Quoted message said:

Returned last night from a visit to the old country (Canada) for Canuck
Thanksgiving. Got off the plane in Portland and picked up my duffel off the
carousel, only to find the end pockets open and my bike shoes missing.
Contents of said shoes included my pedals, gloves and bike tool. Damn!

Quoted message said:

So I talk to the Customer Service lady at United and she says she can fill
out forms, but suspects the TSA staff are at fault. There was indeed a TSA
inspection notice inside my bag. According to her, it's not uncommon for
TSA to take items out of a bag and forget to replace them, or mix up which
bag they belonged to. It makes sense that TSA would want to inspect a shoe
with a metal plate on the bottom and two other metal devices inside. I'm
all for cooperating, but now I'm out a pair of super comfy shoes, my nicely
worn cleats and pedals, and my confy gloves with the nice fuzzy snot-patch
on them... Not worth an insurance claim, but potentially spendy to replace.

Quoted message said:

I now have forms to file claims with both TSA and United, and my gut tells
me its a TSA issue. Anybody been down this path? I have no receipts for my
5 year old shoes or 4 year old pedals or 5 year old Alien tool. The TSA
wants documentation up the yin-yang to support claims (a seemingly blatant
ploy to make claimants go away) - am I pissing into the wind to try to get
them to make good on my stuff?

Quoted message said:

The worst of it is, I had to drive to work today, and after a Thanksgiving
weekend, I need all the exercise I can get!

Bummer!

It's funny how once you buy into clipless pedals how shoes become a
dominant factor in riding. You can pack the car with everything: bike,
helmet, clothes, snacks, whatever, but if you forget your shoes at
home...well...it's hard to get excited about pedalling in sneakers
atop some Atacs.

I thought exactly about that when I bought my pedals. What if I just
want to jump on the bike and ride with my kids around the 'hood?
"Wait, let me get my shoes!"??? My Crank Bros Mallets work just fine
for both - the casual tooling around the subdivision in tennis shoes,
or the bombing down the trail in my cycling shoes.

E.P.

Ed Pirrero said:

Scott Gordo said:

On Oct 10, 7:19 pm, "Mamba" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Not Joe Jackson, but shoeless nonetheless.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Returned last night from a visit to the old country (Canada) for Canuck
Thanksgiving. Got off the plane in Portland and picked up my duffel off the
carousel, only to find the end pockets open and my bike shoes missing.
Contents of said shoes included my pedals, gloves and bike tool. Damn!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So I talk to the Customer Service lady at United and she says she can fill
out forms, but suspects the TSA staff are at fault. There was indeed a TSA
inspection notice inside my bag. According to her, it's not uncommon for
TSA to take items out of a bag and forget to replace them, or mix up which
bag they belonged to. It makes sense that TSA would want to inspect a shoe
with a metal plate on the bottom and two other metal devices inside. I'm
all for cooperating, but now I'm out a pair of super comfy shoes, my nicely
worn cleats and pedals, and my confy gloves with the nice fuzzy snot-patch
on them... Not worth an insurance claim, but potentially spendy to replace.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I now have forms to file claims with both TSA and United, and my gut tells
me its a TSA issue. Anybody been down this path? I have no receipts for my
5 year old shoes or 4 year old pedals or 5 year old Alien tool. The TSA
wants documentation up the yin-yang to support claims (a seemingly blatant
ploy to make claimants go away) - am I pissing into the wind to try to get
them to make good on my stuff?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The worst of it is, I had to drive to work today, and after a Thanksgiving
weekend, I need all the exercise I can get!

Quoted message said:

Bummer!

Quoted message said:

It's funny how once you buy into clipless pedals how shoes become a
dominant factor in riding. You can pack the car with everything: bike,
helmet, clothes, snacks, whatever, but if you forget your shoes at
home...well...it's hard to get excited about pedalling in sneakers
atop some Atacs.

I thought exactly about that when I bought my pedals. What if I just
want to jump on the bike and ride with my kids around the 'hood?
"Wait, let me get my shoes!"??? My Crank Bros Mallets work just fine
for both - the casual tooling around the subdivision in tennis shoes,
or the bombing down the trail in my cycling shoes.

E.P.

I don't see how you guys ride around in those things.

JD

JD said:

Ed Pirrero said:

On Oct 12, 7:14 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On Oct 10, 7:19 pm, "Mamba" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Not Joe Jackson, but shoeless nonetheless.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Returned last night from a visit to the old country (Canada) for Canuck
> Thanksgiving. Got off the plane in Portland and picked up my duffel off the
> carousel, only to find the end pockets open and my bike shoes missing.
> Contents of said shoes included my pedals, gloves and bike tool. Damn!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> So I talk to the Customer Service lady at United and she says she can fill
> out forms, but suspects the TSA staff are at fault. There was indeed a TSA
> inspection notice inside my bag. According to her, it's not uncommon for
> TSA to take items out of a bag and forget to replace them, or mix up which
> bag they belonged to. It makes sense that TSA would want to inspect a shoe
> with a metal plate on the bottom and two other metal devices inside. I'm
> all for cooperating, but now I'm out a pair of super comfy shoes, my nicely
> worn cleats and pedals, and my confy gloves with the nice fuzzy snot-patch
> on them... Not worth an insurance claim, but potentially spendy to replace.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I now have forms to file claims with both TSA and United, and my gut tells
> me its a TSA issue. Anybody been down this path? I have no receipts for my
> 5 year old shoes or 4 year old pedals or 5 year old Alien tool. The TSA
> wants documentation up the yin-yang to support claims (a seemingly blatant
> ploy to make claimants go away) - am I pissing into the wind to try to get
> them to make good on my stuff?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> The worst of it is, I had to drive to work today, and after a Thanksgiving
> weekend, I need all the exercise I can get!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bummer!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's funny how once you buy into clipless pedals how shoes become a
dominant factor in riding. You can pack the car with everything: bike,
helmet, clothes, snacks, whatever, but if you forget your shoes at
home...well...it's hard to get excited about pedalling in sneakers
atop some Atacs.

Quoted message said:

I thought exactly about that when I bought my pedals. What if I just
want to jump on the bike and ride with my kids around the 'hood?
"Wait, let me get my shoes!"??? My Crank Bros Mallets work just fine
for both - the casual tooling around the subdivision in tennis shoes,
or the bombing down the trail in my cycling shoes.

Quoted message said:

E.P.

I don't see how you guys ride around in those things.

In *what* things?

My cycling shoes are hiking shoes with cleats. I could walk around
all day in them. The roadies and their Italian shoes with solid sole
plates? Uhhh, no.

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats, and not all of them are the no-compromise roadie
variety.

E.P.

Ed Pirrero said:

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

JD

"JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ed Pirrero said:

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

JD

Waterskis, not biker feet. You're in the wrong sport ;-)

As to the original respondant, I'm getting ATACs because I have another set
on my commuter, and only want one pair of shoes/clip system.
Used to have some SPD compatible adapters that would clip onto a pedal and
make it a semi-flat. Wish they had those for ATACs too.

JD said:

Ed Pirrero said:

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

LOL. For *normal* people, there are a wide range of shoes. But I
will give you this: internet gotcha-games are fun.

E.P.

Ed Pirrero said:

JD said:

On Oct 13, 8:24 am, Ed Pirrero <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats

Quoted message said:

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

LOL. For *normal* people, there are a wide range of shoes. But I
will give you this: internet gotcha-games are fun.

E.P.

Normalcy is overrated and the freakish shall reign supreme!

JD

"JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ed Pirrero said:

JD said:

On Oct 13, 8:24 am, Ed Pirrero <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

> There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
> pedal cleats

Quoted message said:

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

LOL. For *normal* people, there are a wide range of shoes. But I
will give you this: internet gotcha-games are fun.

E.P.

Normalcy is overrated and the freakish shall reign supreme!

JD

HA! My Grandfather used to say "son, you got a lot of understanding" while
staring at my size 13's. Another one he used to say was "son, if you fell
down, you'd be halfway home"! He was a piece of work. Lived to be 84 smoking
unfiltered Camels and drinking cheap whiskey.

I have some trouble fitting into some of those hard soled bike shoes.

Marty

JD said:

Ed Pirrero said:

On Oct 13, 10:30 am, JD <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On Oct 13, 8:24 am, Ed Pirrero <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
> pedal cleats

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

Quoted message said:

LOL. For *normal* people, there are a wide range of shoes. But I
will give you this: internet gotcha-games are fun.

Quoted message said:

E.P.

Normalcy is overrated and the freakish shall reign supreme!

There, sir, you have my complete, unmitigated agreement.

E.P.

JD said:

Ed Pirrero said:

There is a wide range of shoes available with provisions for clipless
pedal cleats

[censored]. Try looking for a wide range in size 14.

JD

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=8059

Not that I'd buy shoes without trying them on first, but....

/s