Simeoni's Complaint Shelved

thebluetrain said:

Simeoni's complaint against Armstrong shelved

By Tim Maloney, European Editor

Italian Prosecutor Giuseppe Quattrocchi has decided to not pursue Filippo Simeoni's complaint in 2004 for intimidation and insults allegedly made by Lance Armstrong during Stage 18 of the 2004 Tour de France, from Annemasse to Lons le Saunier. Quattrocchi nixed Simeoni's case as he decided that the events were part of a sporting event and had nothing to do with public life.

Although Simeoni alleged that Armstrong threatened him, the case came down to Armstrong's word against Simeoni's and Prosecutor Quattrocchi has decided that Simeoni's allegations had insufficient credibility to proceed with. In a recent interview with La Gazzetta dello Sport's Pier Bergonzi, Armstrong admitted, "I made a mistake to go after him that day. I thought it was too important but I never said the things he said I did."

However, Mario Cipollini will have to appear in court as Quattrocchi wants to look further into Simeoni's allegations that the Italian sprinter sought to exclude him from certain races in 2004 when both riders were on the Domina Vacanze squad.

Why did lance sue his indemnity company for witholding his bonuses when all they asked him for was his full medical records?

what has he got to hide?

Why do you write with such a large font and in bold ?

Patrick1983 said:

Why did lance sue his indemnity company for witholding his bonuses when all they asked him for was his full medical records?

what has he got to hide?

whiteboytrash said:

Why do you write with such a large font and in bold ?

i do my bit for the hard of seeing 😉

Patrick1983 said:

Why did lance sue his indemnity company for witholding his bonuses when all they asked him for was his full medical records?

what has he got to hide?

BECAUSE IT WASNT IN THE CONTRACT. THEY DIDNT PAY HIM FOR WINNING THE SIXTH TOUR. ASO SAID HE WON THE TOUR. THE UCI CONFIRMED IT. THEY DIDNT PAY. SO HE SUED. NOWHERE IN THE CONTRACT DID IT SAY WE"LL PAY--IF YOU GIVE US YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS. IT"S WHAT LAWYERS CALL A FISHING EXPEDITION. THEY"LL KEEP STALLING AND STALLING>
THEY SHOULD BE SUED BECAUSE THEY ARE IN BREACH OF CONTRACT.
BUT I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS. I JUST GOT A GREAT DEAL ON MY CAR INSURANCE.

IF YOU THINK THAT'S A NONSEQUITUR, WHY DID YOU BRING THE INSURANCE THING UP IN THE SIMEONI IS A BIG FAT WHINING LOSER THREAD?

Well, Simeoni has now been relegated to a lesser team and gotten his "just desserts". What team would want to have Simeoni on and incur the wrath of Bruyneel/LA in 2005? Strategically and politically, Simeoni became a negative. More importantly, Simeoni was not a good cyclist to begin with. So why would any rational team choose to retain him when he was nothing special as a cyclist? 🙂

musette said:

Well, Simeoni has now been relegated to a lesser team and gotten his "just desserts". What team would want to have Simeoni on and incur the wrath of Bruyneel/LA in 2005? Strategically and politically, Simeoni became a negative. More importantly, Simeoni was not a good cyclist to begin with. So why would any rational team choose to retain him when he was nothing special as a cyclist? 🙂

We have a name for the Simeoni's in my neighborhood.

We have a name where I am too for a Simeoni -- LOSER. :p

musette said:

We have a name where I am too for a Simeoni -- LOSER. :p

In no way am I defender of Simeoni (or Armstrong, for that matter), but he did recently win a stage, at Langkawi I think, so he is not a loser, by definition. 🙂

Yes, but to reinforce Simeoni's loser ways: I think Simeoni said, when he won the stage at Langkawi, that he wondered if LA could win Plat d'Adet (which was a TdF stage around the time of Simeoni's win). He was sort of baiting LA. Of course, DC, through Hincapie, won Plat d'Adet. :p That Simeoni would think his win at Langkawi is anything comparable, or relevant, to a win at Plat d'Adet shows Simeoni's sense of self-importance (unjustified, of course). 😎

WTF are you smoking?
FYI langkawi is always at the start of the year, jan/feb, is this around the same time as mid july? Adding to this Simeoni didnt ride the TdL this year either. Rest of your post is as full of [censored] as you are.
Simeonis palmares include two stages in the vuelta ++. If theres any looser around here its you.

musette said:

Yes, but to reinforce Simeoni's loser ways: I think Simeoni said, when he won the stage at Langkawi, that he wondered if LA could win Plat d'Adet (which was a TdF stage around the time of Simeoni's win). He was sort of baiting LA. Of course, DC, through Hincapie, won Plat d'Adet. :p That Simeoni would think his win at Langkawi is anything comparable, or relevant, to a win at Plat d'Adet shows Simeoni's sense of self-importance (unjustified, of course). 😎

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LOL, well lets just say that musette has a bias towards disco..........😉

Bjørn P.Dal said:

WTF are you smoking?
FYI langkawi is always at the start of the year, jan/feb, is this around the same time as mid july? Adding to this Simeoni didnt ride the TdL this year either. Rest of your post is as full of [censored] as you are.
Simeonis palmares include two stages in the vuelta ++. If theres any looser around here its you.

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[font=Verdana]Nice work ! I love these TDF junkies who think they know about cycling ! They just keep shooting themselves in the foot showing just how cycling illiterate they are !

The TDF junkies on this site forget that Simeoni and Armstrong have something in common…. They shared the same coach for a very long time……. one is a convicted and self confessed drug user and the other one is a Italian cyclist…. 😉[/font][font=Verdana][/font]

Bjørn P.Dal said:

WTF are you smoking?
FYI langkawi is always at the start of the year, jan/feb, is this around the same time as mid july? Adding to this Simeoni didnt ride the TdL this year either. Rest of your post is as full of [censored] as you are.
Simeonis palmares include two stages in the vuelta ++. If theres any looser around here its you.

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It was China instead of Malaysia. Tour of Qinghai Lake. Stage 2 on July 17.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2005/jul05/qinghai05/qinghai052

Simeoni is now riding for Naturino-Sapore team. 😎

In defense of musette in this particular instance, it was I and not him/her who initially said Langkawi, when I meant to say Qinghai Lake.

Bjørn P.Dal said:

WTF are you smoking?
FYI langkawi is always at the start of the year, jan/feb, is this around the same time as mid july? Adding to this Simeoni didnt ride the TdL this year either. Rest of your post is as full of [censored] as you are.
Simeonis palmares include two stages in the vuelta ++. If theres any looser around here its you.

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fair enough. but thats what he gets for not providing links to his ramblings.

JRMDC said:

In defense of musette in this particular instance, it was I and not him/her who initially said Langkawi, when I meant to say Qinghai Lake.

Bjørn P.Dal said:

fair enough. but thats what he gets for not providing links to his ramblings.

Musette is actually a female and is Discovery Channel's number 1 cheerleader. You might recognise her by the pom poms when she's at the only cycling event on the calender.

patch70 said:

Musette is actually a female and is Discovery Channel's number 1 cheerleader. You might recognise her by the pom poms when she's at the only cycling event on the calender.

So after all this tough talk from the Italian judiciary, and Simeoni etc, what happens. Exactly nothing.
And who gains from this?
Lance is hassled with more legal expenses.
He thinks seriously about then HAS to miss the Giro, although it could be argued that he got out just in time and will be happy with that-especially how late he put off his training this year.

But what IF he hadnt chased Simeoni down...he might have done the Giro and then come back to the Tour next year and boy that would have been really close, arguably he would have lost, we'll see.

But what an annoying jerk Simeoni is to try to go the witness intimidation route, same for the Italians who at least backed out before subpoenaing Lance and the rest of the peloton--I mean really.
The definition of sh#*-weasal.

[font=Verdana][font=Verdana]Calm down.... Armstrong has already stated to the media and to the Italian judiciary that he made a mistake in chasing Simeoni down in the 2004 Tour... he has also said that this probably incited the alleged lies that Simeoni told .... (remember the case was dropped as it was a ‘his word against mine case’, impossible to prove either way. The case being dropped did not prove the guilt or innocence of either party.)........so IF (and its a big IF) Armstrong wanted to ride the Giro he should of thought twice about being such a hot head and chasing down another cyclist over a personal issue who was 2 hours down on GC..... simple.

[font=Verdana]Just remember Simeoni never said that Armstrong was using PED’s he only stated that Ferrari tried to administer to himself. Armstrong used (uses) the same coach and disagreed (Simeoni was proven to be correct by an Italian court of law later on)… Armstrong (the accuser) called Simeoni a lair… (Armstrong throws first punch)… Simeoni says he’s telling the truth and sues Armstrong for calling him a lair when he knows that Ferrari did provide him PED’s….. so there is an active case on the go… Armstrong chased Simeoni down and has words… thus intimidation of witness….. regardless of what was said he acted out of the confines of the race to speak one on one with a witness without the [font=Times New Roman][font=Verdana]opportunity[/font] [/font]for legal representation to be present.

[/font][/font][/font]I don’t know about you guys but what has Simeoni done wrong here ? He just stated that his coach gave him PED’s. Another man disagrees. He never stopped Armstrong going to the Giro… Armstrong stopped himself by trying to protect a now convicted drug peddler.

I rest my case.

Armstrong may not have used PED’s but his coach has been found guilty of administering them.

So when you say ‘Lance is hassled by more legal expenses’ then why was he did chase Simenoi down and allegedly say: [font=Verdana]‘You were wrong to testify against Michele Ferrari; you were wrong to sue me [for defamation of character]. I have lots of money and lots of time and I will destroy you. I’ll make you give up racing’ [/font]... food for thought.

hombredesubaru said:

So after all this tough talk from the Italian judiciary, and Simeoni etc, what happens. Exactly nothing.
And who gains from this?
Lance is hassled with more legal expenses.
He thinks seriously about then HAS to miss the Giro, although it could be argued that he got out just in time and will be happy with that-especially how late he put off his training this year.

But what IF he hadnt chased Simeoni down...he might have done the Giro and then come back to the Tour next year and boy that would have been really close, arguably he would have lost, we'll see.

But what an annoying jerk Simeoni is to try to go the witness intimidation route, same for the Italians who at least backed out before subpoenaing Lance and the rest of the peloton--I mean really.
The definition of sh#*-weasal.

patch70 said:

Musette is actually a female and is Discovery Channel's number 1 cheerleader. You might recognise her by the pom poms when she's at the only cycling event on the calender.

None of us actually knows much about each other...
http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html