Snobby road bunchs

Andrew Price said:

Einstein-on-a-mtb comes off relatively lightly, puts his wheel back and
remarks that he will check his quick release this time (!) shrugs his
shoulders and rides off leaving the bunch to wait for the ambulance, get a
riderless bike back etc,

So if a bunch declines your request to sit on, they just may have a
reason...

best, Andrew

yeee oouuch.. nasty!

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and about today, and this was in the hills - my theory was they are cramming for the Around the Bay... I'd hate to see how packed Beach Rd is...

gplama said:

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and
about today, and this was in the hills - my theory was they are
cramming for the Around the Bay...

That doesn't explain why there were umpteen riders out in Sydney. The fact
it's about the first dry weather for a couple of weeks might have
something to do with it though.

I must admit it was considerably more pleasant than the last time I rode
the bike I did today. After *that* ride I had to put the bike computer in
front of a heater for a couple of hours, then pull it apart to get the
last bit of water out. The rider just needed a warm shower and a fluffy
towel.

--
Dave Hughes | [email hidden]
"Never make any mistaeks."
(Anonymous, in a mail discussion.)

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gplama said:

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and
about today, and this was in the hills

I noticed the same thing.

Quoted message said:

my theory was they are cramming for the Around the Bay...

Yep.

--
Shane Stanley

gplama said:

yeee oouuch.. nasty!

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and about today, and this was in the hills - my theory was they are cramming for the Around the Bay... I'd hate to see how packed Beach Rd is...

Cafe racer and beach road were both crazy this morning. Yesterday was normal though... must have been the good weather today that did it.

gplama said:

Andrew Price said:

Einstein-on-a-mtb comes off relatively lightly, puts his wheel back
and
remarks that he will check his quick release this time (!) shrugs his
shoulders and rides off leaving the bunch to wait for the ambulance,
get a
riderless bike back etc,

So if a bunch declines your request to sit on, they just may have a
reason...

best, Andrew

yeee oouuch.. nasty!

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and
about today, and this was in the hills - my theory was they are
cramming for the Around the Bay... I'd hate to see how packed Beach Rd
is...

It was pretty busy, but no worse than any other sunny Sunday.
And, how about that wind? 🙂

xlnt wind coming back home from k'lake / humevale - [censored] outward bound

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Quoted message said:

gplama said:

Andrew Price said:

Einstein-on-a-mtb comes off relatively lightly, puts his wheel back
and
remarks that he will check his quick release this time (!) shrugs his
shoulders and rides off leaving the bunch to wait for the ambulance,
get a
riderless bike back etc,

So if a bunch declines your request to sit on, they just may have a
reason...

best, Andrew

yeee oouuch.. nasty!

TimC and I did note there was a major increase in cyclists out and
about today, and this was in the hills - my theory was they are
cramming for the Around the Bay... I'd hate to see how packed Beach Rd
is...

It was pretty busy, but no worse than any other sunny Sunday.
And, how about that wind? 🙂

jim said:

xlnt wind coming back home from k'lake / humevale - [censored] outward bound

I was in a duathlon at Knox. The flat bike leg started with me riding
comfortably at 40kmh. Then I turned into the wind. Yikes, heart rate
around 95% and only doing 25kmh.

daveB

DaveB said:

I was in a duathlon at Knox. The flat bike leg started with me riding
comfortably at 40kmh. Then I turned into the wind. Yikes, heart rate
around 95% and only doing 25kmh.

I raced past the ex-mine, now dump, near Tarago NSW on Sat.
The out legs were against the wind and the bunch was only doing 23 on
the flat.

Andre

T'was a [censored] of cyclist out and about in the Nongs this morn. The 1/20 is becoming the Beach Road of Hill Climbs, even saw a recumbant cyclist!!! With sandles on! dear god..

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:50:38 +1000

Jono L said:

T'was a [censored] of cyclist out and about in the Nongs this morn. The
1/20 is becoming the Beach Road of Hill Climbs, even saw a recumbant
cyclist!!! With sandles on! dear god..

It's part of the recumbent dress code, didn't you know that?

I've stopped using my cycling shoes in favour of sandals with cleats
on. Mainly because the shoes aren't as comfortable. I've got wide
feet and I got the widest shoes I could find, but still I get sore
feet in them.

The sandals are comfortable and work as well as shoes, better even because
I can wear thick socks in winter and thin ones in summer. And being a
recumbent rider I can wear them, whereas upright riders can't because
they are too scared of looking dorky. Poor things. Have to feel sorry
for them really, it must be hell worrying so much about appearance.

Zebee
- given up working on the beard though.

Zebee Johnstone said:

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:50:38 +1000

Jono L said:

T'was a [censored] of cyclist out and about in the Nongs this morn. The
1/20 is becoming the Beach Road of Hill Climbs, even saw a recumbant
cyclist!!! With sandles on! dear god..

It's part of the recumbent dress code, didn't you know that?

I've stopped using my cycling shoes in favour of sandals with cleats
on. Mainly because the shoes aren't as comfortable. I've got wide
feet and I got the widest shoes I could find, but still I get sore
feet in them.

The sandals are comfortable and work as well as shoes, better even because
I can wear thick socks in winter and thin ones in summer. And being a
recumbent rider I can wear them, whereas upright riders can't because
they are too scared of looking dorky. Poor things. Have to feel sorry
for them really, it must be hell worrying so much about appearance.

Zebee
- given up working on the beard though.

socks + sandals = beard

Zebee Johnstone said:

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:50:38 +1000

Jono L said:

T'was a [censored] of cyclist out and about in the Nongs this morn. The
1/20 is becoming the Beach Road of Hill Climbs, even saw a recumbant
cyclist!!! With sandles on! dear god..

It's part of the recumbent dress code, didn't you know that?

I've stopped using my cycling shoes in favour of sandals with cleats
on. Mainly because the shoes aren't as comfortable. I've got wide
feet and I got the widest shoes I could find, but still I get sore
feet in them.

The sandals are comfortable and work as well as shoes, better even because
I can wear thick socks in winter and thin ones in summer. And being a
recumbent rider I can wear them, whereas upright riders can't because
they are too scared of looking dorky. Poor things. Have to feel sorry
for them really, it must be hell worrying so much about appearance.

Zebee
- given up working on the beard though.

Well, I was the one coming down the 1 in 20 on a beat-up hybrid. I'd
been for a scrub-bash along the Basin-Olinda and Ferndale Rds. It
certainly is getting busier than it used to be. Some of the roadies did
at least smile back when I grinned and/or waved to them.
Ray (in street clothes and with muddy tyres)

Andrew Price said:

On the way back home from this morning's ride a complete hubbard on a dodgy
looking mtb on slicks hops on the back of the bunch for a free tow - yeah,
whatever.

But after sitting on and recovering for about 15 minutes, the wannabe
decides he can go better on his own, pulls out to pass at speed, rear wheel
partly pulls out (qr not done up) he goes down and takes that side of the
bunch (about 4 riders) - one of whom joined up to the collar bone club with
a hell of a lot of skin gone and abrasions galore in the rest of what had
otherwise been a pretty good ride.

Einstein-on-a-mtb comes off relatively lightly, puts his wheel back and
remarks that he will check his quick release this time (!) shrugs his
shoulders and rides off leaving the bunch to wait for the ambulance, get a
riderless bike back etc,

So if a bunch declines your request to sit on, they just may have a
reason...

best, Andrew

why is it that the culprit usually fairs better out of an incident than the "innocent bystanders" that get caught up in it?

Does that mean that when I'm riding home from work on my commuter (a
dodgy looking mtb with slick tyres) that I'm not allowed to sit on the
back of a road bunch on Beach Rd for fear of them slagging me off and
treating me like a pariah? Even when I'm tired and sore after standing
up all day and just want to get home as quick as I can? I've seen
plenty of wannabe roadies on expensive bikes with dodgy bunch etiquette
and a surfeit of testosterone carving each other up when I've been out
on either of my bikes with smooth tyres, but I don't think you can
categorise riding skills by the type of bike they ride. Overestimating
your own bike handling abilities is standard for Beach Rd. I think, and
crashes happen because of it. I'll never do an Around The Bay again,
coz when you're fatigued, and don't allow for it, it multiplies bad
judgement. I'd rather go somewhere quiet, or ride with people I have
seen ride before.

MH

warrwych said:

Andrew Price said:

On the way back home from this morning's ride a complete hubbard on a
dodgy
looking mtb on slicks hops on the back of the bunch for a free tow -
yeah,
whatever.

But after sitting on and recovering for about 15 minutes, the wannabe
decides he can go better on his own, pulls out to pass at speed, rear
wheel
partly pulls out (qr not done up) he goes down and takes that side of
the
bunch (about 4 riders) - one of whom joined up to the collar bone club
with
a hell of a lot of skin gone and abrasions galore in the rest of what
had
otherwise been a pretty good ride.

Einstein-on-a-mtb comes off relatively lightly, puts his wheel back
and
remarks that he will check his quick release this time (!) shrugs his
shoulders and rides off leaving the bunch to wait for the ambulance,
get a
riderless bike back etc,

So if a bunch declines your request to sit on, they just may have a
reason...

best, Andrew

why is it that the culprit usually fairs better out of an incident than
the "innocent bystanders" that get caught up in it?

--
warrwych

Oops, I was out on the “air trainer” – Beach Rd - Sunday morning. Even though I didn’t hang with any bunches ( I can’t see the point in training by clocking up milage in a bunch, most people in there aren’t even pedalling) I did see some desperate moves to dodge the wind & sit on a wheel.

ITT rules should apply.

(Did you notice how strong the head wind was, but as soon as you get home, it’s not even enough to blow the washing on the line about very much) .

Quoted post said:

Does that mean that when I'm riding home from work on my commuter (a
dodgy looking mtb with slick tyres) that I'm not allowed to sit on the
back of a road bunch on Beach Rd for fear of them slagging me off and
treating me like a pariah? Even when I'm tired and sore after standing
up all day and just want to get home as quick as I can? I've seen
plenty of wannabe roadies on expensive bikes with dodgy bunch etiquette
and a surfeit of testosterone carving each other up when I've been out
on either of my bikes with smooth tyres, but I don't think you can
categorise riding skills by the type of bike they ride. Overestimating
your own bike handling abilities is standard for Beach Rd. I think, and
crashes happen because of it. I'll never do an Around The Bay again,
coz when you're fatigued, and don't allow for it, it multiplies bad
judgement. I'd rather go somewhere quiet, or ride with people I have
seen ride before.

MH

Overly sensitive? I don't think that's what was implied at all. I think
the implication was that bunches might be nervous about picking up
unknown riders (on any bike) who jump on mid-ride. And in particular,
that bunch will be very nervous, having been once bitten.

Tam

warrwych said:

why is it that the culprit usually fairs better out of an incident than
the "innocent bystanders" that get caught up in it?

When your back wheel gets a knock, it's usually not so bad, but get
your front wheel chopped? You're a tracky .. you can draw the picture
🙂

Marx SS said:

Oops, I was out on the "air trainer" - Beach Rd - Sunday morning. Even
though I didn't hang with any bunches ( I can't see the point in
training by clocking up milage in a bunch, most people in there aren't
even pedalling) I did see some desperate moves to dodge the wind & sit
on a wheel.

You underestimate the benefits of training in a bunch, and I can assure
you, the lads riding in my small bunch got plenty of quality miles into
their legs on Sunday!

The key is small bunches, I reckon.

quote='Bleve'warrwych said:

why is it that the culprit usually fairs better out of an incident than
the "innocent bystanders" that get caught up in it?

When your back wheel gets a knock, it's usually not so bad, but get
your front wheel chopped? You're a tracky .. you can draw the picture
🙂[/QUOTE]

absolutely - I'd rather lose a back wheel any day! I was making a general comment about "life" than a comment on Andrew's experience. Seems to be more often than not the person causing the issue comes off cleanest. I've seen it on the road (car and bike) on the track (horse and bike) and in the office (politics!!). Karma can be a wierd thing.