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Paul Saunders · 2004-01-28T00:05:10+00:00

This shouldn't really come as a surprise if you've been watching the forecasts, or even looking out of your window, but it is a bit of a surprise in the south-west where we rarely see much of the white stuff. It's just started raining in Swansea. No surprise there, but that bodes well for the Beacons in the current low temperatures. Carl from Pontardawe (half way up the Swansea valley) has just reported snowflakes there within the last half hour, so this bodes well for snow on the Beacons tomorrow. Bill reported a light covering above 600m today and the Met Office are forecasting snow above 300m tomorrow morning. Again no big deal compared to what the rest of the country is probably getting, but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain. Paul -- Calendars for 2004 http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk/cal/cal.html http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=118749

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Paul Saunders
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28 January 2004, 00:05 UTC #1

This shouldn't really come as a surprise if you've been watching the forecasts, or even looking out
of your window, but it is a bit of a surprise in the south-west where we rarely see much of the
white stuff.
It's just started raining in Swansea. No surprise there, but that bodes well for the Beacons in the
current low temperatures. Carl from Pontardawe (half way up the Swansea valley) has just reported
snowflakes there within the last half hour, so this bodes well for snow on the Beacons tomorrow.
Bill reported a light covering above 600m today and the Met Office are forecasting snow above 300m
tomorrow morning. Again no big deal compared to what the rest of the country is probably getting,
but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
Paul
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Ian Dainty
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28 January 2004, 00:05 UTC #2

"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This shouldn't really come as a surprise if you've been watching the forecasts, or even looking
out of your window, but it is a bit of a surprise in the south-west where we rarely see much of
the white stuff.
It's snowing in Lincoln right now.
Ian. 11:14pm
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Reid
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28 January 2004, 14:10 UTC #3

Following up to Paul Saunders
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but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
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Ferlas Mor
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28 January 2004, 14:10 UTC #4

"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bill reported a light covering above 600m today and the Met Office are forecasting snow above 300m
tomorrow morning. Again no big deal compared to what the rest of the country is probably getting,
but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
Paul
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Did a "different" circuit of Pen y Fan yesterday:- Storey Arms: Corn Du: Pen y Fan:
Cribyn....descended Cribyn's NE ridge (very icy) then the "Goat Track" across Cribyn's north face.
Dropped down the sheep track which starts at the gap between Cribyn & Corn Du to contour the slopes
directly below Pen y Fan's north face, before climbimg up to the Cefn Cwm Llwch ridge. From there a
descent directly to Llyn Cwm Llwch, followed by a visit to the remains of the Boer War rifle range
targets in Cwm Llwch with an ascent of Pen Milan and Y Gyrn before getting back to the car. Approx
9.5 miles and 3400ft of ascent. Different as I said.
A photo of the conditions encountered can be viewed at tinyurl.com27zpg :- a panorama of Pen
y Fan's north face. The faint sheep track descending to the base of Pen y Fan's north face can just
be picked out. (No comments on my lack of photographic expertise please!!). Very icy underfoot in
parts, particularly on the steep descent from Cribyn.
Bill, you will be no doubt be interested to learn that the labradors in the photo both have
Sheenaron fathers. One is from Nicholas Road in Glais!, the other from Deerbrook Labradors
in Nantgarw.
Gwyn

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Paul Saunders
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28 January 2004, 14:10 UTC #5

Reid said:
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but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
Lucky you! Not a spot in Swansea (as expected) nor even on Kilvey Hill (too small).
I'll be taking a look up the Swansea valley shortly.
Paul
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Paul Saunders
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28 January 2004, 14:10 UTC #6

Ferlas Mor said:
Did a "different" circuit of Pen y Fan yesterday
Very interesting.
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A photo of the conditions encountered can be viewed at tinyurl.com27zpg :- a panorama of
Pen y Fan's north face.
Very nice.
Quoted message said:
The faint sheep track descending to the base of Pen y Fan's north face can just be picked out. (No
comments on my lack of photographic expertise please!!).
Nothing wrong with that photo. Good exposure in potentially difficult lighting conditions (sunlit
snow not burnt out, good shadow detail) and a nice composition too.
Beacons snow update. I've just heard from a source in Brecon that there's now snow above 1,500ft and
it's 4 inches thick.
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Phil Cook
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28 January 2004, 14:10 UTC #7

Reid said:
Following up to Paul Saunders
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but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
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Paul Saunders
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28 January 2004, 15:08 UTC #8

Phil Cook said:
What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
Not what kind of a world, but what kind of a Britain.
We're obsessed with weather in this country, or hadn't you noticed? ;-)
And snow is news in Swansea. Still haven't seen any this winter. Haven't seen any for years in fact.
Older stats say 3 mornings a year with snow in Swansea, but that's well out of date now, we're lucky
to see 1 morning every 3 years these days.
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Reid
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28 January 2004, 15:08 UTC #9

Following up to Phil Cook
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Quoted message said:
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
and that was in Barnet, the highest point in London, with no higher ground between it and York NMPKT
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What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
A globally warmed one? They do seem to be making an excessive fuss in the media, though. I mean, so
it snowed! OK, it snowed last year too once, maybe not for quite a while before that but the odd
coldish day is going to happen every few years.
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Martin Richards
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28 January 2004, 19:07 UTC #10

In message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook <urwalk@p-t-
cook.freeserveSPAMTRAP.co.uk> writes
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Reid said:
Following up to Paul Saunders
Quoted message said:
but it makes a nice change to see it this often snow-free corner of Britain.
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
Don't care if it counts as news or olds, what I wanna know is where will there be plenty of snow to
play in at the weekend. In other words, where, if anywhere, is it likely to stick?
Do I go NE to the NYM, NW to the Pond District, N to the Borders, S to the Dark Peak or SW to
Snowdonia?
Mind you I got stuck in a big queue on the back way home from work tonight - just cos the road
had a nice shiny surface and someone decided to do some wall demolition in the wrong season with
their bumper.
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Paul Saunders
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28 January 2004, 19:07 UTC #11

Martin Richardson said:
Don't care if it counts as news or olds, what I wanna know is where will there be plenty of snow
to play in at the weekend. In other words, where, if anywhere, is it likely to stick?
I think it will be warming up somewhat by the weekend. Call in sick and go out now!
Useful site; met-office.gov.ukindex.html
Snowdonia
*************
Outlook for Friday A mainly dry and bright day with sunny spells, though towards the west coast the
odd shower will still be possible. It will remain on the cold side, with highest temperatures near 8
Celsius in a light south-westerly wind. Friday evening will be dry at first, but it won't be long
before the cloud starts to spill in from the west, and that will be followed by rain and drizzle
during Friday night. Not as cold, with the minimum near 4 Celsius. met-met-
office.gov.uk/loutdoor/mountainsafety/snowdonia.html
Beacons met-office.gov.ukbrecon.html
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Do I go NE to the NYM, NW to the Pond District, N to the Borders, S to the Dark Peak or SW to
Snowdonia?
By my logic you should go as far south as possible where there is snow,
i.e. the Beacons, since snow is relatively rarest in the south and west. If not the Beacons then
Snowdonia. There should be plenty more opportunities for more snow in northern areas later in
the next couple of months.
But that's now. I wouldn't hold out much hope for the snow sticking in the south until the weekend.
There may be a little left on the tops. If it does rain on Friday night with a temp of 4 degrees
then that should mean more snow above 600m, but only if the temp doesn't rise higher than that.
Paul
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Simon Challands
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28 January 2004, 20:05 UTC #12

In message <[email hidden]>
Paul Saunders said:
Phil Cook said:
What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
Not what kind of a world, but what kind of a Britain.
We're obsessed with weather in this country, or hadn't you noticed? ;-)
And snow is news in Swansea. Still haven't seen any this winter. Haven't seen any for years in
fact. Older stats say 3 mornings a year with snow in Swansea, but that's well out of date now,
we're lucky to see 1 morning every 3 years these days.
Then it might be local news. It certainly doesn't have to be national news every time it snows. Most
of the country still seems to get a little every year. The fuss that gets made is quite ridiculous,
really (as is peoples' inability to cope with it in many places).
What I've seen so far I'd call normal weather for the time of year.
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Bryan Hall
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28 January 2004, 20:05 UTC #13

Teehee - snowing in Christchurch Dorset (3rd time in 15 years - & it never last) But the 1st time
I've ever known it thunder at the same time!
30 mins later & the car pile ups have started ;-)
Ho Hum
"Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Following up to Phil Cook
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
even had a spot in London, -2 at dawn.
and that was in Barnet, the highest point in London, with no higher ground between it and
York NMPKT
Quoted message said:
What kind of world is it where a frost is news!
A globally warmed one? They do seem to be making an excessive fuss in the media, though. I mean,
so it snowed! OK, it snowed last year too once, maybe not for quite a while before that but the
odd coldish day is going to happen every few years.
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etc "fellwalk.co.ukfellwalk.co.uk" <--

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Rj Webb
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29 January 2004, 00:08 UTC #14

Bryan Hall said:
Teehee - snowing in Christchurch Dorset (3rd time in 15 years - & it never last) But the 1st time
I've ever known it thunder at the same time!
That cold front was pretty spectacular though.. OK not a lot of snow fell here, (staffs) but the
little that did fell quickly acompanied by thunder.
Driving tonight was not to bad, but Birmingham is gridlocked
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Gordon
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29 January 2004, 23:35 UTC #15

Stuart Baldwin <[email hidden]> wrote
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Manchester was gridlocked during the rush hour on Wednesday morning but is not too bad now. I have
to say that I expected to see some idiot driving (which is common round here even in good
conditions) but in fact everyone I saw was taking it nice and easy (hence the gridlock).
Tameside is SpeedCameralocked.....
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Paul Saunders
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29 January 2004, 23:35 UTC #16

Simon Challands said:
Quoted message said:
And snow is news in Swansea.
Quoted message said:
Then it might be local news.
Not here it isn't, because *IT DIDN'T SNOW!!!*.
Quoted message said:
It certainly doesn't have to be national news every time it snows.
Was it? Didn't notice.
Quoted message said:
Most of the country still seems to get a little every year.
Speak for yourself.
Quoted message said:
The fuss that gets made is quite ridiculous, really (as is peoples' inability to cope with it in
many places).
Not really. Down these parts it's like getting hit by an asteroid.
Quoted message said:
What I've seen so far I'd call normal weather for the time of year.
Yeah, completely normal down here. SNNSS. Situation Normal, No Snow in Swansea!
B*****ds! :-(
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Stuart Baldwin
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29 January 2004, 23:35 UTC #17

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:13:03 GMT, [email hidden] (RJ
Webb) said:
Bryan Hall said:
Teehee - snowing in Christchurch Dorset (3rd time in 15 years - & it never last) But the 1st time
I've ever known it thunder at the same time!
That cold front was pretty spectacular though.. OK not a lot of snow fell here, (staffs) but the
little that did fell quickly acompanied by thunder.
Driving tonight was not to bad, but Birmingham is gridlocked
Manchester was gridlocked during the rush hour on Wednesday morning but is not too bad now. I have
to say that I expected to see some idiot driving (which is common round here even in good
conditions) but in fact everyone I saw was taking it nice and easy (hence the gridlock).

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Gordon
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30 January 2004, 12:06 UTC #18

Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote
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Simon Challands said:
Quoted message said:
And snow is news in Swansea.
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Then it might be local news.
Not here it isn't, because *IT DIDN'T SNOW!!!*.

It did here, and I very nearly scraped the side off two parked cars on my road when I got caught by
a frozen rut which had been produced when there were no cars parked!
It made a walk of two hundred yards to by a birthday card, then another walk to post it pure hell,
walking on trampled snow which had part thawed and frozen again. You are welcome to my share of it,
even if it did look pretty on the hills today. :-(
I pity the elderly who live alone and have to go out and risk a nasty fall.
Ooo-errr! That's me.
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Richard Webb
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30 January 2004, 12:06 UTC #19

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Tameside is SpeedCameralocked.....
All those who hate speed cameras
Raise their right foot.
Richard Webb

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Simon Challands
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30 January 2004, 16:07 UTC #20

In message <[email hidden]>
Gordon said:
Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote
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Simon Challands said:
> And snow is news in Swansea.
Quoted message said:
Then it might be local news.
Not here it isn't, because *IT DIDN'T SNOW!!!*.

It did here, and I very nearly scraped the side off two parked cars on my road when I got caught
by a frozen rut which had been produced when there were no cars parked!
I wouldn't deny snow can be a PITA, but it annoys me when it's treated as strange freak weather of a
type never before seen. The only time I don't recall some every year was when I lived in Devon (and
the utter chaos that ensued there when there was some once was amazing).
Quoted message said:
It made a walk of two hundred yards to by a birthday card, then another walk to post it pure hell,
walking on trampled snow which had part thawed and frozen again. You are welcome to my share of
it, even if it did look pretty on the hills today. :-(
Perhaps there's a case for crampons even when just walking down the road!
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