Snowdon camping

"richard edwards" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can you just camp anywhere around snowdown? ie: at the edge of one of the
lakes. is there permission required or are the people camping just being
sneaky?

Thanks.

Richard

Nope, the wardens will chase you if you're anywhere in the National Park
area, AFAIK.

Could be a case of "camp late, pack early".

But, in all the times I've been to Snowdonia, I've always seen a warden
walking on Snowdon and the Glyders areas.

Jhimmy

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"richard edwards" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can you just camp anywhere around snowdown? ie: at the edge of one of the
lakes. is there permission required or are the people camping just being
sneaky?

Thanks.

Richard

Nope, the wardens will chase you if you're anywhere in the National Park
area, AFAIK.

Nope thats bollocks! The only people that can request you to leave legally
is the landowner.

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Could be a case of "camp late, pack early".

Correct ;-)

JS

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:27:43 GMT, "Jhimmy" <[email hidden]>

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"richard edwards" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can you just camp anywhere around snowdown? ie: at the edge of one of the
lakes. is there permission required or are the people camping just being
sneaky?

Thanks.

Richard

Nope, the wardens will chase you if you're anywhere in the National Park
area, AFAIK.

Could be a case of "camp late, pack early".

But, in all the times I've been to Snowdonia, I've always seen a warden
walking on Snowdon and the Glyders areas.

I chatted away to warden in Snowdonia, albeit on Cadair Idris. He
said that the official line is that no camping is allowed, but that
he'd never send any camper on their way if they were behaving
responsibly, just wish them a good night.

Camp out of sight of roads, paths and habitation. Pee well away from
streams and carry out any [censored] - burn toilet paper.
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:27:43 GMT, "Jhimmy" <[email hidden]>

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"richard edwards" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can you just camp anywhere around snowdown? ie: at the edge of one of
the
lakes. is there permission required or are the people camping just being
sneaky?

Thanks.

Richard

Nope, the wardens will chase you if you're anywhere in the National Park
area, AFAIK.

Could be a case of "camp late, pack early".

But, in all the times I've been to Snowdonia, I've always seen a warden
walking on Snowdon and the Glyders areas.

I chatted away to warden in Snowdonia, albeit on Cadair Idris. He
said that the official line is that no camping is allowed, but that
he'd never send any camper on their way if they were behaving
responsibly, just wish them a good night.

Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

JS

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:50 -0000, "John Smith" <[email hidden]>

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Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

I expect the wardens have the authority to act on behalf of the
landowner. If you have evidence to the contrary, please advise.
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to ride a stationary bicycle. -
Congressman Earl Blumenauer (Oregon)

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:50 -0000, "John Smith" <[email hidden]>

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Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

I expect the wardens have the authority to act on behalf of the
landowner. If you have evidence to the contrary, please advise.

National park wardens do not and never had that authority to move campers
on.
I suggest you read up on UK trespassl aw to find out:-(

JS

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:50 -0000, "John Smith" <[email hidden]>

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Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

I expect the wardens have the authority to act on behalf of the
landowner. If you have evidence to the contrary, please advise.

National park wardens do not and never had that authority to move campers
on.
I suggest you read up on UK trespassl aw to find out:-(

There is no such think as a UK trespass law. The UK is divided into
three zones as far as laws are concerned; England and Wales, Scotland
and Northern Ireland.

Wild camping is part of the Scottish Access Code. In England and Wales
it is in theory prohibited but is tolerated in many wild areas
provided you are sensible. Pitch late strike early, don't light fires
etc.

As for camping around Snowdon it depends which lake you want to pitch
next to. It is a very popular area and I'd say that if you pitched by
Llyn Llydaw you would be moved on. There is a small site at Llyn
Gwynant which is open Easter to October and another at Nant Peris
which is open March To October.

If you want a wild camping experience in Snowdonia then my advice
would be not to camp around Snowdon itself.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:50 -0000, "John Smith" <[email hidden]>
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>Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

I expect the wardens have the authority to act on behalf of the
landowner. If you have evidence to the contrary, please advise.

National park wardens do not and never had that authority to move campers
on.
I suggest you read up on UK trespassl aw to find out:-(

There is no such think as a UK trespass law. The UK is divided into
three zones as far as laws are concerned; England and Wales, Scotland
and Northern Ireland.

Wild camping is part of the Scottish Access Code. In England and Wales
it is in theory prohibited but is tolerated in many wild areas
provided you are sensible. Pitch late strike early, don't light fires
etc.

As for camping around Snowdon it depends which lake you want to pitch
next to. It is a very popular area and I'd say that if you pitched by
Llyn Llydaw you would be moved on. There is a small site at Llyn
Gwynant which is open Easter to October and another at Nant Peris
which is open March To October.

If you want a wild camping experience in Snowdonia then my advice
would be not to camp around Snowdon itself.

I think you need to check up on English/Welsh law! Just ask a gypsy, you
need a court order to move you on legally.

JS

Phil Cook said:

If you want a wild camping experience in Snowdonia then my advice
would be not to camp around Snowdon itself.

There are some nice spots on Snowdon that are off the beaten track...

Paul

In relation to National Parks, are they not owned by the people for the
people therefore making me and you the owners, or am I being naive.
Regards Beds

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In relation to National Parks, are they not owned by the people

No. The National Parks are not owned by the nation. The land is still
owned by the private land owners, like elsewhere, but there are extra
regulations on planning, access etc.

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Dominic Sexton

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:50 -0000, "John Smith" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>Well probably he knew he has no authorisation to move campers on :-)

I expect the wardens have the authority to act on behalf of the
landowner. If you have evidence to the contrary, please advise.

National park wardens do not and never had that authority to move campers
on.
I suggest you read up on UK trespassl aw to find out:-(

There is no such think as a UK trespass law. The UK is divided into
three zones as far as laws are concerned; England and Wales, Scotland
and Northern Ireland.

Wild camping is part of the Scottish Access Code. In England and Wales
it is in theory prohibited but is tolerated in many wild areas
provided you are sensible. Pitch late strike early, don't light fires
etc.

As for camping around Snowdon it depends which lake you want to pitch
next to. It is a very popular area and I'd say that if you pitched by
Llyn Llydaw you would be moved on. There is a small site at Llyn
Gwynant which is open Easter to October and another at Nant Peris
which is open March To October.

If you want a wild camping experience in Snowdonia then my advice
would be not to camp around Snowdon itself.

Have a look here. I have not read it all but it might help.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/20000037.htm

John.

I am sure computers make you say stupid things, I knew they were in
private ownership, why did I say that?

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Nope, the wardens will chase you if you're anywhere in the National Park
area, AFAIK.

Nope thats bollocks! The only people that can request you to leave legally
is the landowner.

Quoted message said:

Could be a case of "camp late, pack early".

Correct ;-)

JS

I've always been led to believe that (as previously been mentioned) that the
warden is acting on behalf of the landowner, who ever that is in Snowdonia.
Although he is not directly employed by the landowner, he acts on behalf of
the welfare of the land and it's his judgement.

But then again, I'm more used to the ELD and Scotland for laws.

Jhimmy