Solution for Mass. Gay Marriage problem . . .



Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:

>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:eek:[email protected]...
>> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
>>
>> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't has been keeping track or
>> >licensing them, and since the gov't has no
>legitimate
>> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do y'all
>think
>> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody, both straight and gay, get a
>> >state certificate of "civil union" which ensures they get all the rights of legally recognized
>> >couples.
>>

>
>That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?

Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.

Jd

"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
 
Gray Shockley, wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:41:44 -0600, Jd wrote (in message
><[email protected]>):
>
>> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
>>
>>> Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't has been keeping track or
>>> licensing them, and since the gov't has no legitimate place involving itself in religious
>>> affairs/practices, what do y'all think of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that
>>> everybody, both straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which ensures they
>>> get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
>>

>>
>> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
>>
>> Jd
>>
>>
>
>Not "think"; "believe".
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------
> Choosing a Microsoft Operating System for your computer is equivalent to choosing Dr. Kervorkian
> as your family doctor.
> - Gray Shockley

Still puzzeled over the OS used by almost everyone in America eh?

Jd

"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote

> >>
> >> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
> >
> >Congratulations. You're welcome to your opinion. If you were a church preacher, you'd have the
> >freedom not to perform a marriage ceremony for
gays
> >and lesbians, and I'd cheerfully support your right not to do so. In
fact,
> >I'd excoriate gays and lesbians who criticised you for exercising your rights not to marry them,
> >then we could trot down to the local greasy
spoon
> >and I'd buy you breakfast and we could have a lively chat.
> >
> >But when a gay couple want to have their relationship recognized the same way as straight
> >couples, the issue concerns only government agencies, and not religious organizations.
>
> God has given us the duty of governing ourselves.
>
> >But let me ask you this . . . If you want other people to abide by Leviticus 18:22, would you
> >also say that people should abide by Leviticus 20:13, which says that gay people
have
> >to be put to death? If not, why should people abide by some parts of the Bible and not
others?
> >--Just curious . . . --Tock
>
> >Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them
> >have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>
> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>

> judgement of God?

Oooh, sounds like a threat!
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]>, wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote

> >>
> >> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
> >
> >
> >
> >Congratulations. You're welcome to your opinion. If you were a church preacher, you'd have the
> >freedom not to perform a marriage ceremony for
gays
> >and lesbians, and I'd cheerfully support your right not to do so. In
fact,
> >I'd excoriate gays and lesbians who criticised you for exercising your rights not to marry them,
> >then we could trot down to the local greasy
spoon
> >and I'd buy you breakfast and we could have a lively chat.
> >
> >But when a gay couple want to have their relationship recognized the same way as straight
> >couples, the issue concerns only government agencies, and not religious organizations.
>
> God has given us the duty of governing ourselves.
>

So go govern yourself, and leave others to govern themselves.

> >But let me ask you this . . . If you want other people to abide by Leviticus 18:22, would you
> >also say that people should abide by Leviticus 20:13, which says that gay people
have
> >to be put to death? If not, why should people abide by some parts of the Bible and not
others?
> >--Just curious . . . --Tock
>
> >Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them
> >have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>
> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>

Which are not relevant to the legal issues.

> judgement of God?

It's not your place to punish anyone.
 
Light Templar, wrote:

>
>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> fLight Templar, a.k.a. "Light Templar" <[email protected]>, wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> "James L. Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote
>> >> > I look upon "marriage" as being a state of union with religious
>> >> significance,
>> >> > something different than a "civil union" which is a state recognized
>by
>> >> the
>> >> > government. I'm a strong proponent of keeping our government separate
>> >(as
>> >> > much as is possible) from religions with their myriad of diversities.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I agree. But is that the view of the national gay organizations who are saying
>that
>> >> gays gotta have the right to marry and not just civil unions? -Tock
>> >
>> >It is the view of the U.S. Supreme Court that you cannot create a
>seperate
>> >but equal status. It would be far easier for churches to change what
>they
>> >currently call marriage to "Holy Matrimony" than it would be for the Government to change. So,
>> >why don't the churches change?
>> >
>>
>> Many of them probably will so they can take your tithes.
>>
>> But I won't. Sodomy is an abomination before God.
>>
>
>So your an idiot that dreams of living in a theocracy. Easily ignored and consigned to the closet
>of historical idiocy.
>

Yes. I see you are ignoring me quite effectively.

Jd

"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
 
Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:

>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> fLight Templar, a.k.a. "Light Templar" <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> >
>> ><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> "James L. Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote
>> >> > I look upon "marriage" as being a state of union with religious
>> >> significance,
>> >> > something different than a "civil union" which is a state recognized
>by
>> >> the
>> >> > government. I'm a strong proponent of keeping our government separate
>> >(as
>> >> > much as is possible) from religions with their myriad of diversities.
>> >>
>> >> I agree. But is that the view of the national gay organizations who are saying
>that
>> >> gays gotta have the right to marry and not just civil unions? -Tock
>> >
>> >It is the view of the U.S. Supreme Court that you cannot create a
>seperate
>> >but equal status. It would be far easier for churches to change what
>they
>> >currently call marriage to "Holy Matrimony" than it would be for the Government to change. So,
>> >why don't the churches change?
>>
>> Many of them probably will so they can take your tithes.
>>
>> But I won't. Sodomy is an abomination before God.
>
>Even when a man and woman do it?
>
>[snip repeated bible thumping]

Men and women don't do it. Not real men and women anyhow. The men and women you are referring to
only do it because they have undersized

Let's face it folks, I'm right and you know it.

Jd
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
>
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:eek:[email protected]...
> >> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >>
> >> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't
has
> >> >been keeping track or licensing them, and since the gov't has no
> >legitimate
> >> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do y'all
> >think
> >> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody,
both
> >> >straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which
ensures
> >> >they get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
> >>

> >
> >That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?
>
> Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.
>
> Jd

You're most likely a coward that couldn't even pull the trigger.
 
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:15:27 -0600, Jd wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):

> Many of them probably will so they can take your tithes.
>
> But I won't. Sodomy is an abomination before God.
>
> Jd

All gods or just yours?

Henrieta H. God thinks that love is a very nice thing.

Gray Shockley
--------------------------
"Swinehood hath no remedy." - Sidney Lanier
 
This whole gay marriage thing just turns my guts. What is this world

humans. Gay people can't reproduce with each other. They are sinners. I truly believe that religion
and government should go together. This world wouldn't be so messed up. JUST FOLLOW GODS LAWS AND
YOU WILL BE HAPPY. I promise.
 
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:03:41 -0600, Jd wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):

> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>

Yep; she says not to purposely hurt other people.

> judgement of God?

I talked to Henrieta H. God earlier today and she thinks that people who love each other make love
with each other are peachy keen.

Are you still running around with that really jealous god who can't ever grow up and is always
throwing temper tantrums? What a loser.

Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
She also really likes the idea that the couple in San Francisco finally got married after going
steady for 51 years.
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
>
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:eek:[email protected]...
> >> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >>
> >> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't
has
> >> >been keeping track or licensing them, and since the gov't has no
> >legitimate
> >> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do y'all
> >think
> >> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody,
both
> >> >straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which
ensures
> >> >they get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
> >>

> >
> >That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?
>
> Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.
>
> Jd
>
> "But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)

Bible in one hand and a gun in the other. Why am i not surprised.
 
Light Templar, wrote:

>
>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> <[email protected]>, wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote

>> >>
>> >> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Congratulations. You're welcome to your opinion. If you were a church preacher, you'd have the
>> >freedom not to perform a marriage ceremony for
>gays
>> >and lesbians, and I'd cheerfully support your right not to do so. In
>fact,
>> >I'd excoriate gays and lesbians who criticised you for exercising your rights not to marry them,
>> >then we could trot down to the local greasy
>spoon
>> >and I'd buy you breakfast and we could have a lively chat.
>> >
>> >But when a gay couple want to have their relationship recognized the same way as straight
>> >couples, the issue concerns only government agencies, and not religious organizations.
>>
>> God has given us the duty of governing ourselves.
>>
>
>So go govern yourself, and leave others to govern themselves.
>
>
>> >But let me ask you this . . . If you want other people to abide by Leviticus 18:22, would you
>> >also say that people should abide by Leviticus 20:13, which says that gay people
>have
>> >to be put to death? If not, why should people abide by some parts of the Bible and not
>others?
>> >--Just curious . . . --Tock
>>
>> >Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
>both of them
>> >have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be
>> >upon them.
>>
>> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>>
>
>Which are not relevant to the legal issues.
>

>> judgement of God?
>
>It's not your place to punish anyone.
>
Right. I'm not in the government. Are you?

But lookie here, folks who reject God long enough risk suffering the judgement of God. It's a bad
sign to us Christians to see so many folks being turned over to thereprobitic mindset...

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change
the natural use into that which is against nature:

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust
one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a
reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient

Even if the entire government decides to rebel against God it will be nothing new. There is no new
thing under the sun.

A selection from the OT comes to mind....

"The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and
against his anointed, saying, "Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from
us"." (Psalms 2:-3)

... which is defined in the NT as an event ( if not the very first event) when the state which was
allowed to kill Jesus, began chasing the Church around in ignorance of the fact that Jesus had
arisen from the dead and ascended to the throne of God in heaven to rule, reign, and make
intercession for the saints being positioned at the right hand of God "from thence shall he come to
judge the living and the dead".

Here's the supporting evidence from the NT which speaks of the aforementioned OT example....

Acts 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said,
Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

Acts 4:25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people
imagine vain things?

Acts 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord,
and against his Christ.

Acts 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and
Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Acts 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Acts 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all
boldness they may speak thy word..."

Now. As it was then, so it is now. We Christians are strapped with the duty of telling sinners
(whether they be homos or ordinary adulterers) that they should repent of their wickedness and turn
to Jesus who is the judge of the living and the dead....

"And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of
God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name
whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." (Acts 10:42-43)

Even so you may merely mock and jeer. Nevertheless you will not be able to say " I never heard" when
you stand before the judge of all mankind, because I have told you.

Jd

"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
 
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:08:54 -0600, Dennis Kemmerer wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):

>> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>>

>> judgement of God?
>
> Oooh, sounds like a threat!

Well, since John "Latrine-Man" Knight isn't with us at present, Jd has to take up the slack as much
as he can.

Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
Although Jd has nothing to very little of slack.
 
Light Templar wrote:

>
>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
>>
>> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:eek:[email protected]...
>> >> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't
>has
>> >> >been keeping track or licensing them, and since the gov't has no
>> >legitimate
>> >> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do y'all
>> >think
>> >> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody,
>both
>> >> >straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which
>ensures
>> >> >they get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
>> >>

>> >
>> >That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?
>>
>> Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.
>>
>> Jd
>
>You're most likely a coward that couldn't even pull the trigger.

"Most likely" is a good choice of words seeing that you're not really sure concerning the things
you're talking about.

Jd

"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Light Templar, wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote

> >> >>
> >> >> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Congratulations. You're welcome to your opinion. If you were a
church
> >> >preacher, you'd have the freedom not to perform a marriage ceremony
for
> >gays
> >> >and lesbians, and I'd cheerfully support your right not to do so. In
> >fact,
> >> >I'd excoriate gays and lesbians who criticised you for exercising your rights not to marry
> >> >them, then we could trot down to the local greasy
> >spoon
> >> >and I'd buy you breakfast and we could have a lively chat.
> >> >
> >> >But when a gay couple want to have their relationship recognized the
same
> >> >way as straight couples, the issue concerns only government agencies,
and
> >> >not religious organizations.
> >>
> >> God has given us the duty of governing ourselves.
> >>
> >
> >So go govern yourself, and leave others to govern themselves.
> >
> >
> >> >But let me ask you this . . . If you want other people to abide by Leviticus 18:22, would you
> >> >also
say
> >> >that people should abide by Leviticus 20:13, which says that gay
people
> >have
> >> >to be put to death? If not, why should people abide by some parts of the Bible and not
> >others?
> >> >--Just curious . . . --Tock
> >>
> >> >Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman,
> >both of them
> >> >have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death;
their
> >> >blood shall be upon them.
> >>
> >> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
> >>
> >
> >Which are not relevant to the legal issues.
> >

> >> judgement of God?
> >
> >It's not your place to punish anyone.
> >
> Right. I'm not in the government. Are you?

It's not the government's place to punish anyone that hasn't committed a crime.

[irrelevant bible babble snipped.]
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Light Templar wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >news:eek:[email protected]...
> >> >> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the
gov't
> >has
> >> >> >been keeping track or licensing them, and since the gov't has no
> >> >legitimate
> >> >> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do
y'all
> >> >think
> >> >> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody,
> >both
> >> >> >straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which
> >ensures
> >> >> >they get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
> >> >>

> >> >
> >> >That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?
> >>
> >> Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.
> >>
> >> Jd
> >
> >You're most likely a coward that couldn't even pull the trigger.
>
> "Most likely" is a good choice of words seeing that you're not really sure concerning the things
> you're talking about.
>

You're a coward, that I'm sure of.
 
"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
>
> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> fLight Templar, a.k.a. "Light Templar" <[email protected]>, wrote:
> >> >
> >> ><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >> >>
> >> >> "James L. Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote
> >> >> > I look upon "marriage" as being a state of union with religious
> >> >> significance,
> >> >> > something different than a "civil union" which is a state
recognized
> >by
> >> >> the
> >> >> > government. I'm a strong proponent of keeping our government
separate
> >> >(as
> >> >> > much as is possible) from religions with their myriad of
diversities.
> >> >>
> >> >> I agree. But is that the view of the national gay organizations who are
saying
> >that
> >> >> gays gotta have the right to marry and not just civil unions? -Tock
> >> >
> >> >It is the view of the U.S. Supreme Court that you cannot create a
> >seperate
> >> >but equal status. It would be far easier for churches to change what
> >they
> >> >currently call marriage to "Holy Matrimony" than it would be for the Government to change. So,
> >> >why don't the churches change?
> >>
> >> Many of them probably will so they can take your tithes.
> >>
> >> But I won't. Sodomy is an abomination before God.
> >
> >Even when a man and woman do it?
> >
> >[snip repeated bible thumping]
>
> Men and women don't do it. Not real men and women anyhow. The men and women you are referring to
> only do it because they have undersized

>
> Let's face it folks, I'm right and you know it.

You're a moron and an asshole.

[plonk]
 
Gray Shockley wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:03:41 -0600, Jd wrote (in message
><[email protected]>):
>
>> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>>
>
>Yep; she says not to purposely hurt other people.
>
>

>> judgement of God?
>
>I talked to Henrieta H. God earlier today and she thinks that people who love each other make love
>with each other are peachy keen.
>
>
>Are you still running around with that really jealous god who can't ever grow up and is always
>throwing temper tantrums? What a loser.
>

You do realize that confessing you serve a false God makes you a false prophet don't you?

1Kings 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, "Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape".
And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there. (that's
450 corpses)

Jd
 
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Dennis Kemmerer, wrote:
>>
>> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:eek:[email protected]...
>> >> <[email protected]>, a.k.a. <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Since marriages have been performed by churches longer than the gov't
>has
>> >> >been keeping track or licensing them, and since the gov't has no
>> >legitimate
>> >> >place involving itself in religious affairs/practices, what do y'all
>> >think
>> >> >of the state modifying its laws and constitution so that everybody,
>both
>> >> >straight and gay, get a state certificate of "civil union" which
>ensures
>> >> >they get all the rights of legally recognized couples.
>> >>

>> >
>> >That's nice. Got anything that's legally relevant?
>>
>> Yeah... my lawyers Mr's. Smith and Wesson.
>>
>> Jd
>>
>> "But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." - Jesus (Matthew26:32)
>
>Bible in one hand and a gun in the other. Why am i not surprised.
>

Because you read the story of Nehemiah and the rebuilding of the Wall in Jerusalem?

"They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with
one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon. For the builders, every
one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded..." (Nehemiah 4:17-18)

Are you over 15 in age?

I ask because I think many of you little guys must have very, very, irresponsible parents.

And I also realize that there is a great possibility of me frightening you little guys who've
probably never ever heard the likes of man who comes across the way I do.

Perhaps i should just go watch TV or something.

(snore)

Jd

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come
against Jerusalem." (Zechariah 12:9)
 
Light Templar wrote:

>
>"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Light Templar, wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Jd" <[email protected]> wrote

>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Congratulations. You're welcome to your opinion. If you were a
>church
>> >> >preacher, you'd have the freedom not to perform a marriage ceremony
>for
>> >gays
>> >> >and lesbians, and I'd cheerfully support your right not to do so. In
>> >fact,
>> >> >I'd excoriate gays and lesbians who criticised you for exercising your rights not to marry
>> >> >them, then we could trot down to the local greasy
>> >spoon
>> >> >and I'd buy you breakfast and we could have a lively chat.
>> >> >
>> >> >But when a gay couple want to have their relationship recognized the
>same
>> >> >way as straight couples, the issue concerns only government agencies,
>and
>> >> >not religious organizations.
>> >>
>> >> God has given us the duty of governing ourselves.
>> >>
>> >
>> >So go govern yourself, and leave others to govern themselves.
>> >
>> >
>> >> >But let me ask you this . . . If you want other people to abide by Leviticus 18:22, would you
>> >> >also
>say
>> >> >that people should abide by Leviticus 20:13, which says that gay
>people
>> >have
>> >> >to be put to death? If not, why should people abide by some parts of the Bible and not
>> >others?
>> >> >--Just curious . . . --Tock
>> >>
>> >> >Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
>woman,
>> >both of them
>> >> >have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death;
>their
>> >> >blood shall be upon them.
>> >>
>> >> God has also given us behavioral guidelines.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Which are not relevant to the legal issues.
>> >

>> >> judgement of God?
>> >
>> >It's not your place to punish anyone.
>> >
>> Right. I'm not in the government. Are you?
>
>It's not the government's place to punish anyone that hasn't committed a crime.

governments job to impose the death penalty upon convicted murders.

"Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."
(Genesis 9:6)

Your false dichotomy whereby ye seek to portray laws of morality as being "religious" laws and
therefore unapplicable across the land, is merely a childish distraction.

Are there any adults here in the NG's? I'm getting so bored by these teeny bopper whiggerized
faggots I think I'll go wath TV.

Jd

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come
against Jerusalem." (Zechariah 12:9)