Sonoran desert

Only thing I'll be riding is single track or fireroads. Only concern is
cactus thorns or other things the east doesn;t have that cause punctures
that could be prevented

GeeDubb said:

czb said:

i can ride 4-6 hours on hard technical single track in virginia right
now. would ordinarily keep tires at 45-52 or sometimes higher. weigh
160. i have no experience with ground heat and goatheads and all
that, so trying to see how to best prevent flats

I'm one who swears by slime for use here in Phoenix. It's not so much for
the trail riding but getting to the trail that I live by and also accessing
the bike paths. The goat heads are few on the trails but the streets and
bike paths seem to be covered with them.

Like everybody else said, slime does nothing for pinch flatting and it
creates quite a mess.

If you're only riding the trail, you won't get the use out of slime.

my $0.02

Gary

charles buki said:

Only thing I'll be riding is single track or fireroads. Only concern
is cactus thorns or other things the east doesn;t have that cause
punctures that could be prevented

On 2/18/05 5:31 PM, in article [email hidden],

GeeDubb said:

czb said:

i can ride 4-6 hours on hard technical single track in virginia
right now. would ordinarily keep tires at 45-52 or sometimes
higher. weigh 160. i have no experience with ground heat and
goatheads and all that, so trying to see how to best prevent flats

I'm one who swears by slime for use here in Phoenix. It's not so
much for the trail riding but getting to the trail that I live by
and also accessing the bike paths. The goat heads are few on the
trails but the streets and bike paths seem to be covered with them.

Like everybody else said, slime does nothing for pinch flatting and
it creates quite a mess.

If you're only riding the trail, you won't get the use out of slime.

my $0.02

Gary

slime doesn't stop air leaks from cacti thorns (or old rusty nails..) they
are too big and usually keep opening up the hole.

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Michael Dart said:

I'm not a local

and then:

Maybe not a local, but from what we've seen he certainly has spent
considerable time there. What about you? Where are your little nuggets of
wisdom? Coming from someone who hasn't had the pleasure of riding here, I
appreciate the heads up...

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Advice, drill you rims for Schrader (21/64" drill bit) and Slime your

tubes.

Slime is a waste of time.

JD

Care to elaborate? One could see the need for something extra, what with all
those pointy, prickly things (not you this time!) so what wisdom do you have
to support your contention? Could it merely be a reading comprehension
issue, (or lack therof) on your part, as Mike said "if you ride aggresively
on the rocks" and "think D/H tire" fairly qualifying his comment. And I
suppose the other 2 pcs of advice are sound (the heavyier duty sidewall, and
the drilling for Schrader valve) considering you make no mention of those.

Chin up Mike. 2 out of 3 ain't bad! And Thanks again for the tips....

Dave (nevermind that man behind the curtain...)

Dave W said:

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Michael Dart said:

I'm not a local

and then:

Maybe not a local, but from what we've seen he certainly has spent
considerable time there. What about you? Where are your little
nuggets of wisdom? Coming from someone who hasn't had the pleasure of
riding here, I appreciate the heads up...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Advice, drill you rims for Schrader (21/64" drill bit) and Slime
your tubes.

Slime is a waste of time.

JD

Care to elaborate? One could see the need for something extra, what
with all those pointy, prickly things (not you this time!) so what
wisdom do you have to support your contention? Could it merely be a
reading comprehension issue, (or lack therof) on your part, as Mike
said "if you ride aggresively on the rocks" and "think D/H tire"
fairly qualifying his comment. And I suppose the other 2 pcs of
advice are sound (the heavyier duty sidewall, and the drilling for
Schrader valve) considering you make no mention of those.

Chin up Mike. 2 out of 3 ain't bad! And Thanks again for the tips....

Dave (nevermind that man behind the curtain...)

Well so far in my experience here I have yet to get a flat from a thorn. As
others have stated, well traveled tracks seem to be swept clear of them.
The dominant flora gives the impression there are thorns everywhere and true
you don't want to crash into a cholla. But doesn't seem to be a problem
with tires. At this point I'd have to agree with JD's assessment and recant
my earlier advice. Rocks are more of an enemy to your tubes and Slime
doesn't work for that.

Mike

Michael Dart said:

At this point I'd have to agree with JD's assessment and recant
my earlier advice. Rocks are more of an enemy to your tubes and

Slime

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doesn't work for that.

No need to recant just because the frightpig is humping my leg again.
It's obvious that he/she/it has no idea of how much I have ridden in
the Sonoran Desert and am once again drawing from personal experience,
as well as drawing from the experience of personal friends who live and
ride there year-round. Bummer for the frightpig.

JD

JD said:

Michael Dart said:

At this point I'd have to agree with JD's assessment and recant
my earlier advice. Rocks are more of an enemy to your tubes and
Slime doesn't work for that.

No need to recant just because the frightpig is humping my leg again.
It's obvious that he/she/it has no idea of how much I have ridden in
the Sonoran Desert and am once again drawing from personal experience,
as well as drawing from the experience of personal friends who live
and ride there year-round. Bummer for the frightpig.

It's not because of Dave. It's what you said got me to thinkin'. All the
riding I've done here so far and yet to suffer a single thorn.

Hey, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Yours (and others) personal experience in this
part of the country is greater than mine. Now, let me tell you about muddy
roots... ;^)

Mike

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Michael Dart said:

At this point I'd have to agree with JD's assessment and recant
my earlier advice. Rocks are more of an enemy to your tubes and

Slime

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doesn't work for that.

No need to recant just because the frightpig is humping my leg again.

Nice dodge. Rather tired isn't it? Na, you lack imagination. It's expected
from you.

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It's obvious that he/she/it has no idea of how much I have ridden in
the Sonoran Desert and am once again drawing from personal experience,

Which is precisely why I asked you to elaborate on it.

Apparently you'd rather be JustaDick. (big surprise huh folks?)

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as well as drawing from the experience of personal friends who live and
ride there year-round. Bummer for the frightpig.

JD

Again, nice dodge. Couldn't have said that to begin with could you? Na, that
wouldn't go very far in perpetuating the "badass" image thing you
obviously think you have going for yourself.

(psst..... it ain't working very well!)

Dave (never mind that man behind the curtain....)

Tlacatecatl said:

Here in the Sonoran Desert we're on the verge of what promises to be the best
wildflower bloom in a while. Lots of rain in December and early January,
which is what determines the spring bloom. Riding in the mountains last week
I counted 16 species of wildflowers already in bloom, and it was only mid
February. The bloom should peak about mid March.

Even with the recent rains, however, over the past 9 years we're still in the
midst of an extended drought, down about 1 complete year's worth of rainfall
over that period. Even with an outstanding year of rainfall we'll still be
down a fair amount overall.

Tlacatecatl

http://tinyurl.com/24jr3

When is the bloom going to be in full in your area? Does it just take a
week or so of sun (like that will ever happen again).
--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
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Michael Dart said:

It's not because of Dave.

Nothing to do with mountain biking is because of the frightpig. I was
just sticking my leg out and of course he/she/it latched right onto it
again.

JD freshly starched

Craig Brossman said:

Tlacatecatl said:

Here in the Sonoran Desert we're on the verge of what promises to be
the best wildflower bloom in a while. Lots of rain in December and
early January, which is what determines the spring bloom. Riding in
the mountains last week I counted 16 species of wildflowers already
in bloom, and it was only mid February. The bloom should peak about
mid March.

Even with the recent rains, however, over the past 9 years we're
still in the midst of an extended drought, down about 1 complete
year's worth of rainfall over that period. Even with an outstanding
year of rainfall we'll still be down a fair amount overall.

Tlacatecatl

http://tinyurl.com/24jr3

When is the bloom going to be in full in your area? Does it just take
a week or so of sun (like that will ever happen again).

It's pretty full here in Phoenix...

Last weekend at Estrella..

http://www.pbase.com/mrdart/image/39986247

http://www.pbase.com/mrdart/image/39986251

http://www.pbase.com/mrdart/image/39986249

http://www.pbase.com/mrdart/image/39986254

Mike

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Michael Dart said:

It's not because of Dave.

Nothing to do with mountain biking is because of the frightpig. I was
just sticking my leg out and of course he/she/it latched right onto it
again.

JD freshly starched

I just wished he'd quit including me in on his lil' beastiality fantasies is
all.

And maybe give a reasonable answer sometime....

Dave (a guy can dream can't he?..)

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