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"ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've gotten a hold of an old steel frame, 1991 Jamis Dakota, in my size.
Actually, a whole bike, with original Deore DX (I think it came in between
LX and XT back then) parts, including 7spd SIS thumb shifters (remember
those?) and of course cantis. Blue frame with blue matching cromo fork

and

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blue Ritchey threaded stem. A beaut. My first thought was, it's a nice
triple-butted Tange steel frame, I'll strip everything off of it except

the

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fork and stem, and maybe turn it into a singlespeed. Then I thought,

well,

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this is kind of a classic, maybe I should just strip everything & clean

and

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lube, put everything back together with all original parts, and just keep

it

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as a retro rigid bike. Then, looking in my spare bin, I see a SRAM 7.0

rear

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derailleur with 7.0 shifters, some v-brakes, a Kore threadless stem that
will probably fit me better, a '00 SID XC, and a whole bunch of newish

parts

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that need to be slapped on something. Well, a singlespeed, original, or a
an upgraded hardtail, I can't decide. I'll probably go with the last,
because I wouldn't mind having a steel hardtail that I can bomb around a
singletrack at least for the summer. Any thoughts?

Hmmm, I'm confused, when I was riding pretty much full time, everybody was
moving from steel or steel/cromo frames to oversized aluminium. But the
last year or so, I've been hearing more and more people digging up old bikes
or rebuilding older frames made from steel/cromo.

Can someone please explain this trend back towards the steel/cromo frames?
Is it a personal thing or what?

I personally have a full cromo framed bike atm (which I am happy with) but
was planning to build a custom using an oversized aluminium frame, is this
now not recommended?

Cheers Dre

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I personally have a full cromo framed bike atm (which I am happy with) but
was planning to build a custom using an oversized aluminium frame, is this
now not recommended?

Cheers Dre

No, that would be a great faux pas. This year I'll mainly be riding a
long travel steel hardtail for aggressive xc and a nine-inch travel
freeride bike for launching 2 foot drops in a freeride-lite manner. I
rock. Yay!

Steve.

Dre said:

Hmmm, I'm confused, when I was riding pretty much full time, everybody was
moving from steel or steel/cromo frames to oversized aluminium. But the
last year or so, I've been hearing more and more people digging up old bikes
or rebuilding older frames made from steel/cromo.

Can someone please explain this trend back towards the steel/cromo frames?

The problem with oversize aluminum frames didn't become evident until a
few years' worth of epidemiological data became available. This was
especially so after the widespread introduction of cell phone towers
into remote areas. The problem is that the typical tube diameters for
oversize aluminum frames created resonant effects with the frequencies
typically used for RF communication (microwave, primarily). This
resonant interaction tends to concentrate the dangerous effects of RF
radiation, well, right in your crotch.

Lots of riders have made the move to either carbon fiber or narrow-tube
steel frames, which are off-resonance for microwave frequencies.

Dr. Science

Corvus Corvax said:

Dre said:

Hmmm, I'm confused, when I was riding pretty much full time, everybody was
moving from steel or steel/cromo frames to oversized aluminium. But the
last year or so, I've been hearing more and more people digging up old bikes
or rebuilding older frames made from steel/cromo.

Can someone please explain this trend back towards the steel/cromo frames?

The problem with oversize aluminum frames didn't become evident until a
few years' worth of epidemiological data became available. This was
especially so after the widespread introduction of cell phone towers
into remote areas. The problem is that the typical tube diameters for
oversize aluminum frames created resonant effects with the frequencies
typically used for RF communication (microwave, primarily). This
resonant interaction tends to concentrate the dangerous effects of RF
radiation, well, right in your crotch.

Lots of riders have made the move to either carbon fiber or narrow-tube
steel frames, which are off-resonance for microwave frequencies.

Dr. Science

While I'm sure the OP appreciates the information, you neglected that
certain steel bikes give you Giant Boulders. While everyone will surely
admire you in your Speedo, it'll make riding absoultely impossible.
They'll also completely eclipse your ween.

Listen, Dre, the most important thing to do is remove the plastic disc
between the cogs and spokes. Google Corvus's old posts for his treatise
on its deletrious effects. And if you have a tapered bb spindle, never,
never, EVER grease the taper.

Love,
Captain Sensible

ellis said:

I've gotten a hold of an old steel frame, 1991 Jamis Dakota, in my size.
Actually, a whole bike, with original Deore DX (I think it came in between
LX and XT back then) parts, including 7spd SIS thumb shifters (remember
those?) and of course cantis. Blue frame with blue matching cromo fork and
blue Ritchey threaded stem. A beaut. My first thought was, it's a nice
triple-butted Tange steel frame, I'll strip everything off of it except the
fork and stem, and maybe turn it into a singlespeed. Then I thought, well,
this is kind of a classic, maybe I should just strip everything & clean and
lube, put everything back together with all original parts, and just keep it
as a retro rigid bike. Then, looking in my spare bin, I see a SRAM 7.0 rear
derailleur with 7.0 shifters, some v-brakes, a Kore threadless stem that
will probably fit me better, a '00 SID XC, and a whole bunch of newish parts
that need to be slapped on something. Well, a singlespeed, original, or a
an upgraded hardtail, I can't decide. I'll probably go with the last,
because I wouldn't mind having a steel hardtail that I can bomb around a
singletrack at least for the summer. Any thoughts?

The fork is probably a 1 1/8" and the Dakota steerer tube is probably
1". And the spacing of the rear stays MAY be 130mm instead of today's
135mm, which MAY make fit a hub that'll take 8-9 cogs a little tough.
Though spreading the rear stays 5mm wouldn't be very hard, nor SHOULD
it affect the frame much.
/s

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I personally have a full cromo framed bike atm (which I am happy with)

but

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was planning to build a custom using an oversized aluminium frame, is

this

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now not recommended?

Cheers Dre

No, that would be a great faux pas. This year I'll mainly be riding a
long travel steel hardtail for aggressive xc and a nine-inch travel
freeride bike for launching 2 foot drops in a freeride-lite manner. I
rock. Yay!

Duh!

Everyone who is someone this year knows, to be seen on the scene one would
ride a black alu framed hardtail bomb-proof all-rounder (with blue anno
jewellery of course).

Shaun aRe

No no nooooo, alloy hardtail bikes are like so 2003. Steel bikes are
the new titanium, or didn't you hear? I'm upgrading mine to 10 inches
at the front as I can still feel the gravel under my tyres on my
hardcore fireroad DH rides.
Steve.

My AL frame from 98 is still fine and danny.