Soy Milk causing men to grow breasts

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I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk. I missed the milk, and my
doctor said I was extremely low on calcium too, so I tried soy milk
and really liked it quite a lot. I had expected a bland tasteless
drink but was surprised how good the soy milk was. I have had quite a
few gallons of it over the last few years and never had any problems.
However now that I heard this thing about breasts I tend to wonder if
this could be true. Actually I thought it was a joke until I read the
container and it says "phytoesrogens help releive menopausal
symptoms". That does sound like there may be some truth to this. I
have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

Roy

Why don't you just take a balanced mineral supplement that contains
Calcium? There are several on the market. I personally use "Now" brand
full spectrum minerals. Take them with meals.

I never drink any milk any more and only eat a small amount of dairy
products (cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese) when I am in the mood for
them.

If you do some googling, you will find the opinions on the effects of
phytoestrogens in Soy to be a hotly debated topic.

I think the jury is still out on that one.

Discover http://www.google.com
It is your friend. ;-)
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Recently I was told that men should not drink
soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen
or something like that in it which will cause men
to grow breasts...

Roy,

There's nothing to worry about. I've been drinking soy milk
for over 10 years. My bra size has not increased at all. :^)

Robert

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Quoted message said:

Recently I was told that men should not drink
soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen
or something like that in it which will cause men
to grow breasts...

Roy,

There's nothing to worry about. I've been drinking soy milk
for over 10 years. My bra size has not increased at all. :^)

hahaha!

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Recently I was told that men should not drink
soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen
or something like that in it which will cause men
to grow breasts...

Roy,

There's nothing to worry about. I've been drinking soy milk
for over 10 years. My bra size has not increased at all. :^)

hahaha!

My male cousin did not drink soy milk, he died of breast cancer in 2004.
He had had slightly breasts which soy products must not have caused.

I (female) had breast cancer and I did use a lot of soy products.

There are so many products to use, chose another.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee

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have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

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have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

Or almond milk, my personal fav. It's a little expensive, but really good.

Lynne A
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notbob said:

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have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

Funny.

I've not consumed milk in years. Neither has dad.
I don't get why anyone not in the growth years would even want it.

But, that's just us.

We do consume some fermented dairy products, but not daily.
There are plenty of other calcium sources.

Cheese is a whole 'nuther subject being an art form and all. <G>
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Funny.

I've not consumed milk in years. Neither has dad.
I don't get why anyone not in the growth years would even want it.

But, that's just us.

We do consume some fermented dairy products, but not daily.
There are plenty of other calcium sources.

Cheese is a whole 'nuther subject being an art form and all. <G>
--
Peace, Om

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^) And cause I like my iced coffee
lightened. Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Lynne A
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LynneA said:

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

True dat! OJ or beer is even worse. Fortunately, I finally broke my
near life-long addiction to cold cereal. Cap'n Crunch free for 3 yrs.
Woo-hoo!

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Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Thank goodness they still sell those little cartons of milk. Kinda
pricey, but better than dumping .92 gals of sour milk.

nb

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have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

Or almond milk, my personal fav. It's a little expensive, but really
good.

Lynne A

Cannot you make yourself almond milk.. I'm not sure -- perhaps too gritty?
Dee Dee

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notbob said:

Quoted message said:

have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

Funny.

I've not consumed milk in years. Neither has dad.
I don't get why anyone not in the growth years would even want it.

But, that's just us.

We do consume some fermented dairy products, but not daily.
There are plenty of other calcium sources.

Cheese is a whole 'nuther subject being an art form and all. <G>

I have cheese daily and I haven't drank milk since I left my mom's house at
age 18. I actually have *too* much calcium in my system and that's mostly
due to cheese. Pretty good for someone with a lactose intolerance. :~)
Gas, pain, bloating, etc. I gotta have my cheese! Milk, I only use in
recipes like soups or sauces. If I'm needing milk, I tend to use cream or
half and half because, again, it's only going into something. It's not
going to be consumed as is.

The irony of the whole thing (ha, I said iron and I have too much of that in
my system as well), is what 40 year old woman's blood actually contains too
much calcium? I was told I needed to lower my intake. Yeah, okay!

kili

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LynneA said:

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

True dat! OJ or beer is even worse. Fortunately, I finally broke my
near life-long addiction to cold cereal. Cap'n Crunch free for 3 yrs.
Woo-hoo!

Quoted message said:

Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Thank goodness they still sell those little cartons of milk. Kinda
pricey, but better than dumping .92 gals of sour milk.

nb

I've never cared for milk, but since we are now buying a gallon a week, I
have compiled my own list for using it up. All things I really like and are
extremely hard on your arteries: bechamel, (paneer) cheese, cream of
potato/leek/sorrel, etc. soup, ice cream, rice puddings, ganache, macaroni
& cheese, hot cocoa, butter....

My blood sugar is OK, but my cholesterol is high so I have cut down on using
the cream -

All this I hope controls my osteo-penia (not osteo-porosis).

Dee Dee

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The irony of the whole thing (ha, I said iron and I have too much of that
in
my system as well), is what 40 year old woman's blood actually contains
too
much calcium? I was told I needed to lower my intake. Yeah, okay!

As with hypercalcemia, too much iron in your blood can be dangerous. Google
hemochromatosis.

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Funny.

I've not consumed milk in years. Neither has dad.
I don't get why anyone not in the growth years would even want it.

But, that's just us.

We do consume some fermented dairy products, but not daily.
There are plenty of other calcium sources.

Cheese is a whole 'nuther subject being an art form and all. <G>
--
Peace, Om

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

We don't eat cold cereal.
Hot cereal is better with cream or butter.
Not _quite_ the same as milk gallons.

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And cause I like my iced coffee
lightened.

Tea. With a smidge of heavy cream.

No milk.

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Mashed potatoes,

Cream. Butter. Cheese.

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cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Lynne A
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But see, all of the above does not involve drinking GALLONS of milk.
You are using it as a recipe ingredient. Even with the cereal.

Not the same thing as using it as a beverage. :-)
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notbob said:

LynneA said:

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

True dat! OJ or beer is even worse. Fortunately, I finally broke my
near life-long addiction to cold cereal. Cap'n Crunch free for 3 yrs.
Woo-hoo!

<shrugs>

Cap'n crunch is best as a dry crunchy snack!
Who needs milk with cold cereal?

(altho' I confess I've not eaten it for at least 10 years either. <G>😉

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Quoted message said:

Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Thank goodness they still sell those little cartons of milk. Kinda
pricey, but better than dumping .92 gals of sour milk.

nb

CREAM!!!
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The irony of the whole thing (ha, I said iron and I have too much of
that in
my system as well), is what 40 year old woman's blood actually
contains too
much calcium? I was told I needed to lower my intake. Yeah, okay!

As with hypercalcemia, too much iron in your blood can be dangerous.
Google hemochromatosis.

I have hemochromatosis. I'm familiar with it.

kili

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As with hypercalcemia, too much iron in your blood can be dangerous.
Google hemochromatosis.

I have hemochromatosis. I'm familiar with it.

As I suspected.

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I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk. I missed the milk, and my
doctor said I was extremely low on calcium too, so I tried soy milk
and really liked it quite a lot. I had expected a bland tasteless
drink but was surprised how good the soy milk was. I have had quite a
few gallons of it over the last few years and never had any problems.
However now that I heard this thing about breasts I tend to wonder if
this could be true. Actually I thought it was a joke until I read the
container and it says "phytoesrogens help releive menopausal
symptoms". That does sound like there may be some truth to this. I
have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

I don't ever drink cow's milk. There is plenty of calcium readily
available in many foods, even orange juice comes calcium fortified.
If you don't like plain OJ add lots of ice and vodka... you won't grow
breasts but the more vodka you drink the more all the women you come
into contact with will seem to have much larger breasts.

They need to print a warning on vodka labels: Objects seen in this
bottle will appear much larger than they actually are.

Sheldon Riga

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Omelet said:

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notbob said:

On 2007-08-27, [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:

> have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The truth is you are too old to be drinking milk. But, if you don't
want soy or dairy milk, try rice milk. It's similar to soy milk and
should satisfy your craving with a little mental adjustment.

nb

Funny.

I've not consumed milk in years. Neither has dad.
I don't get why anyone not in the growth years would even want it.

But, that's just us.

We do consume some fermented dairy products, but not daily.
There are plenty of other calcium sources.

Cheese is a whole 'nuther subject being an art form and all. <G>

I have cheese daily and I haven't drank milk since I left my mom's house
at
age 18. I actually have *too* much calcium in my system and that's mostly
due to cheese. Pretty good for someone with a lactose intolerance. :~)
Gas, pain, bloating, etc. I gotta have my cheese! Milk, I only use in
recipes like soups or sauces. If I'm needing milk, I tend to use cream or
half and half because, again, it's only going into something. It's not
going to be consumed as is.

The irony of the whole thing (ha, I said iron and I have too much of that
in
my system as well), is what 40 year old woman's blood actually contains
too
much calcium? I was told I needed to lower my intake. Yeah, okay!

kili

Here's what I have read and been told, Kili.

If your blood contains a high level of calcium, it means that the calcium is
being taken from your bones and transferred into your blood. Hence
osteoporosis from not having enough calcium in your bones. So getting the
blood calcium to the norm is important. To say it another way:
Higher is not better. It means that your calcium is being leached out of
your bones into your blood making your calcium reading higher.

My calcium level was high, and my Vitamin D level was very low. Doctors
will prescribe tests for calcium rates, but most often erroneously will not
prescribe D at the same time, but both these tests work together to give a
true picture.

I, naturally would not take my word as gospel as to what I have explained,
but it is opposite of what is normally thought -- and the impression I
had --

With your health and mine in mind.
Dee Dee