Spoke tension for true wheel

Travers Waker said:

Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for
a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally
and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where
the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some
other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted
already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and
tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel
with different tension)?

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The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and
dished correctly, but the spoke tension is not all that
even. Is this just because of the way my rim reacts
(maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to
correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my
wheels built built badly?

Ideally, all spokes on one side of a rear wheel will have
identical tension. Often, the tension at the rim joint will
be slightly different. Also, if the rim has been damaged (or
was not round to begin with) tension will not be even.

If your rim is good, try loosening the tightest spokes a
half turn and then try to bring the wheel back to true by
tightening other spokes. Make sure to check for roundness as
well as lateral trueness and dish.

If you still can't get reasonably even tension, you probably
need a new rim.

Art Harris

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Travers Waker
Hi.

Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for a
particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally and
radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where the
tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some other
other spoke in a configuration that has been counted
already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and
tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel
with different tension)?

The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished
correctly, but the spoke tension is not all that even. Is
this just because of the way my rim reacts (maybe it's
bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to correct it (rim is
American Classic 420), or are my wheels built built badly?

Thanks for any help,

Travers

There is a brief section in "the Bicycle Wheel" that states something close to what Art Harris already said. You need to work the process and consider how the spokes interact. You may need to loosen on spoke by a half turn and others need to be tightened by a 1/4 turn.
Also, if when you are done with the spoke tension ballancing, and re-truing, you find the wheel still needs help; you may need to "repair the rim" by backing off the tension and taking out the rim bend that is causing the tension imballance.

To simplify what I was trying to ask:

My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is
not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension
without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing?

Thanks,

Travers

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Quoted message said:

Hi.

Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for
a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally
and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where
the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some
other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted
already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and
tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel
with different tension)?

The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished
correctly, but

the

Quoted message said:

spoke tension is not all that even. Is this just because
of the way my

rim

Quoted message said:

reacts (maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension
to correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my
wheels built built badly?

Thanks for any help,

Travers

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Travers Waker
[B]To simplify what I was trying to ask:

My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is
not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension
without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing?

Thanks,

Travers

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Travers [/B]

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Quoted message said:

To simplify what I was trying to ask:

My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is
not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension
without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing?

Maybe. If the rim is not damaged to can make small
adjustments to get the tension more even. With two spokes
next to each other on the same side of the rims you can
loosen one and then tighten the other by the same amount.
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Alex