Spokes: Cutting And Threading?

"Tom Sherman" wrote: <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(PeteCresswell) wrote: I've got a vice and a carbide cutoff wheel
^^^^

Tom Sherman wrote: Please, that is too much information!

And I write: I've got a mezzanine box.

A Muzi said:

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For comparison, the LBS I chose here in the Santa Cruz, CA area,
charges $0.75 per spoke. Up from $0.50 last year.

That's for spokes picked up this weekend.

That quote is for pre-packaged DT straight-guaged spokes. They had a
Phil Wood spoke machine but said that they charge more for
those...labour, ya' know.
(I did not happen to ask how much....I'll guess $1.00)

While not outrageous, you can usually get premium butted spokes at that
price. Why ever build with plain gauge spokes anyway? At any price ???

Butted spokes may not be available in the length you require.

dabac said:

How 'bout simply going up one cross? Might fit...
Or if it doesn't straight off you can tinker with changing cross and
nipple length and maybe find a decent combo there? It's much nicer to
build with new nipples anyhow.

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dabac

In my experience, nipple length cannot compensate for too-short
spokes. No matter how long the nipples, the threads still engage at
the same place as a shorter nipple. I find long nipples particularly
useless, as they very quickly shear at high tension.

JB

Johan Bornman said:

Quoted message said:

How 'bout simply going up one cross? Might fit... Or if it
doesn't straight off you can tinker with changing cross and nipple
length and maybe find a decent combo there? It's much nicer to
build with new nipples anyhow.

Quoted message said:

In my experience, nipple length cannot compensate for too-short
spokes. No matter how long the nipples, the threads still engage at
the same place as a shorter nipple. I find long nipples
particularly useless, as they very quickly shear at high tension.

My experience was with wood rims whose 25mm long spoke nipples had the
same amount of thread at the head end as shorter ones. They, like
short ones had an extended unthreaded tubular end to give spoke wrench
access at the inner diameter of the rim.

With wood rims, spoke nipples are in contact with the glued underside
of tubular tires, making SpokePrep unnecessary because, even with
loose spokes, spoke nipples are not free to rotate and unscrew. To
make up for that, wood rims, although responding well to rim brakes,
absorbed no heat and caused brake pads to burn off on descents. You
could feel the burning bits from the front brake on your legs.

Jobst Brandt

Per Tom Sherman:

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Quoted message said:

I've got a vice and a carbide cutoff wheel.[...]

^^^^
Please, that is too much information!

Good catch!

Actually I have a number of vices... but only one vise.
--
PeteCresswell

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=779

what you need is a spoon and fork drawer gizmo holding clearly labeled
and sorted surplus spokes.