Stage7: 1) DISCOVERY! 2) DISCOVERY! 3) DISCOVERY!

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good, better, best ( products that is)!!

This is the beauty of a newgroup like this. The whole week nobody has even
mentioned who was leading or who finally WON the race. On the other hand we
know about Odessa, her dog and who sucks ass in Discovery...

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This is very interesting!

http://www.cycling4all.com/index.php?content=a_ucinat1.php

Check out US and Australia (and even Germany!)
France looks to be going in the crapper!

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's not the strongest guy in the race
who wins it, but the guy smart enough to get across the line first.
That is why they run races rather than ergometer competitions.
Landaluze took a flyer and benefited from the favorites
sitting on their hands and looking at each other - you chase,
no you chase, no we're only here as a tune-up, blah blah.
That's tactics, it's what makes bike racing interesting. If it
isn't to anyone's taste, they can always watch Ironman instead.
Landaluze gets full credit.

Meanwhile said:

This is very interesting!

http://www.cycling4all.com/index.php?content=a_ucinat1.php

Check out US and Australia (and even Germany!)
France looks to be going in the crapper!

Stevie Steve,

It's professional racing, not a test of your politics.
You began this thread by posting about the results of the
Dauphine Libere, a bicycle race that is in France. When
the US has even a one-week race that is of the caliber of
the Dauphine, get back to us with your smack-talk. And no,
the Tour "de" Georgia does not count. Now turn off the
computer and get back to reading that copy of "Why French
Women Don't Get Fat" that I sent you for your birthday.

Your RBR Nutritional Counselor,
Ben

On 6/12/05 7:09 PM, in article
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Sometimes, just sometimes, it's not the strongest guy in the race
who wins it, but the guy smart enough to get across the line first.
That is why they run races rather than ergometer competitions.
Landaluze took a flyer and benefited from the favorites
sitting on their hands and looking at each other - you chase,
no you chase, no we're only here as a tune-up, blah blah.
That's tactics, it's what makes bike racing interesting. If it
isn't to anyone's taste, they can always watch Ironman instead.
Landaluze gets full credit.

Meanwhile said:

This is very interesting!

http://www.cycling4all.com/index.php?content=a_ucinat1.php

Check out US and Australia (and even Germany!)
France looks to be going in the crapper!

Stevie Steve,

Homer Homer......

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It's professional racing, not a test of your politics.

How mentioning USA, Australia AND Germany....
(The 3 countries that have risen dramatically in the UCI rankings in the
past 5 years) shows any politics (and what the connection would be??) is
stupid

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You began this thread by posting about the results of the
Dauphine Libere, a bicycle race that is in France.

Wrong.......
I was just following RBR etiquette and posting the TOP 3 in the subject line

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When
the US has even a one-week race that is of the caliber of
the Dauphine, get back to us with your smack-talk. And no,
the Tour "de" Georgia does not count. Now turn off the
computer and get back to reading that copy of "Why French
Women Don't Get Fat" that I sent you for your birthday.

Not a French book...... It is a Linux book.

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Your RBR Nutritional Counselor,
Ben

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Sometimes, just sometimes, it's not the strongest guy in the race
who wins it, but the guy smart enough to get across the line first.
That is why they run races rather than ergometer competitions.
Landaluze took a flyer and benefited from the favorites
sitting on their hands and looking at each other - you chase,
no you chase, no we're only here as a tune-up, blah blah.
That's tactics, it's what makes bike racing interesting. If it
isn't to anyone's taste, they can always watch Ironman instead.
Landaluze gets full credit.

He performed solidly every day, and he earned every second that he
preserved over Botero in the end. He's a lousy winner, though... no
charisma whatsoever. It shouldn't make any difference, but in the real
world, it DOES make a difference when the winner of a race looks like
he's in a hurry to get to the dentist. He's going to write himself into
footnotedom that way.

-Sonarrat.

alex said:

And speaking about career prospects...

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Levy Leipheimer(31) has an extensive palmares with the following prestigious
wins, that put him in this group's list of perennial favorites to win the
TdF.

Levi's palmares are why we spend more time talking about his wife.
Odessa and the dogs get more press here.

Levi's problem is that you can't swear on the life of a little dog
without looking like a dork.

Bob Schwartz
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Bob Schwartz said:

Levi's problem is that you can't swear on the life of a little dog
without looking like a dork.

And presumably the amount of drugs you can get your vet to prescribe for a
small dog is less than for a bigger one. Ask heather for an informed
opinion on vets, dogs and drugs, though.

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Guys like Leipheimer
or Botero will never make it to the Tour podium.

Altough I wouldn't say he is a candidate winner, I wouldn't be that
surprised if Botero managed to become third. His two fourth places in
Grand Tours make this not implausible, considering his current
condition.

Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he didnt make top 10 at all🙂

I agree you never know with Botero.
But he's already at a good level since Romandie so i'm not sure he'll
keep his form until next month. He isn't getting younger too.
I don't believe in a top 5. One bad day will easily cost him 15'.

Kenny

Kenny said:

I agree you never know with Botero.
But he's already at a good level since Romandie so i'm not sure he'll
keep his form until next month.

My thoughts exactly. I think his bad day will be on the first mtf.

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He took 10th last year in the Dauphine. Sorry, it's not a fluke. But
you're right, this is as good as it's going to get for him unless his team
steps up. In fact, he was the only Euskaltel rider who finished the
Dauphine. That is unacceptable, period.

-Sonarrat.

It's about results, Euskaltel hasn't had any this year. They're a high
profile team not only in Euskadi and Spain but elsewhere thanks largely to
the success of the Orbea brand. What's that line from the movie, "follow
the money" or, in this case, loss of it. It isn't a horse race but all the
same...

Kenny said:

(Agnolutto also was the deserved winner of the Tour de Suisse 97)

I'd agree. But he was rather lucky, nevertheless. IIRC, TdS was decided
by some 10 minutes plus breakaway in an early and not too difficult stage.

Regards,
Dieter

OK, but he could resist the attacks of pre-worldchampion Camenzind and
a low fat pre-Tour winner Ullrich. That's quite something. And
perhaps the reason Agnolutto never won a decent race again. Must have
cost him a few years of his life.

Kenny