Stand for my Trek 7500

just us said:

Having just been on a 3 day ride I realised that I would really like to get
a stand for my Trek.

Reading this thread might help:
http://www.easyracers.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=2677

Basically, it advocates the use of "double" kickstands (they look like
an upside down V) which generally try to mount over the chainstays
where they meet the bottom bracket. They're very useful for loaded
touring. Given that they support the bicycle on two sides, they end
up lifting a wheel in the air. I use one on my cargo bicycle and it
makes loading much easier.
(like:
http://www.choppersus.com/store/product/62/Kickstand---Alloy-Double---
BK/ or http://www.choppersus.com/store/product/63/Kickstand---
Stingray-Double%3BSL/
)

The other good option is a single kickstand which has two legs,
improving stability.
(like:
http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/esge2leg.html
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/sub/1633-Kickstands.aspx?s=1635
)

The three mount points are: rear axle, rear chainstay near axle, or
across both chain stays near bottom bracket. Good luck. Here are
some examples of kickstands which are available:

http://www.choppersus.com/store/category/9/61/Kickstands-Pegs-Other/

http://www.txedbike.com/cd/ACC/KICK%20STAND.htm
Check out: KS-CD-3 for a centre mount double kick stand I've used on a
cargo bike and find excellent, might be a bit heavy for touring
though.
Also: KS-01 appears to be a rear axle mount double kick stand

good luck! I'm thinking about what kickstand to mount on my tourer
now (a Surly LHT), and am thinking of something like the EGSE
solution.

thanks,
Sam.

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Having just been on a 3 day ride I realised that I would really like to
get a stand for my Trek.Each time we pulled up 2 out of the 4 of us had
stands and were able to just get off the bike and put it on the stand.
Hubby and I had to hunt for trees, then fight over who got there first
lol. Trouble is the LBS( 100kms away ) who sold me the bike says you cant
put a stand on it??????
Went into LBS in town here and bought same stand that my friend got on her
Gary Fisher, it is an adjustable which is supposed to fit on most bikes
but alas it doesnt fit my Trek - the frame coming away from the back wheel
seems very wide and that seems to be the problem. They did have some
stands there that you mount thru your back axle but I didnt like the look
of that at all.
Bleve??? hopeyou can help as you have just been to Trek Uni.
Thanks for any help
Kathy

Aldi has a stand on sale tomorrow.

< http://www.aldi.com.au/product_03/product_55.html >

You can aslo get stands that will go onto the rear wheel axle, a lot of bike
shops use them, they are simply a bit of folded steel in a L shape that has
a U shape cut out on the top to fit onto the rear axle and the bottom of the
L goes under the rear wheel.

Stands that are attached to the bike are plain dangerous and if a bike is
fitted with one it should be removed for safety reasons.

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Aldi has a stand on sale tomorrow.

<http://www.aldi.com.au/product_03/product_55.html>

Looks like it could be a very useful workstand at a reasonable price.

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Stands that are attached to the bike are plain dangerous and if a bike is
fitted with one it should be removed for safety reasons.

I'd really like to hear the reason why you believe this. Could you
inform me? Is this a universal opinion of all kickstands, or an
opinion restricted to unsprung dodgy k-mart grade single leg
kickstands. Given that the original poster was indicating an interest
in kickstands, it would be great to know why you believe they are
dangerous.

thanks,
Sam.

Bad joke alert!!!!!

OK I'm standing. Now what?

Bugbear said:

Bad joke alert!!!!!

OK I'm standing. Now what?

You should've put the warning in the subject line (and
possibly in all capitals with more exclamation marks).

Tam

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"just us" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Aldi has a stand on sale tomorrow.

<http://www.aldi.com.au/product_03/product_55.html>

Looks like it could be a very useful workstand at a reasonable price.

Quoted message said:

Stands that are attached to the bike are plain dangerous and if a bike is
fitted with one it should be removed for safety reasons.

I'd really like to hear the reason why you believe this. Could you
inform me? Is this a universal opinion of all kickstands, or an
opinion restricted to unsprung dodgy k-mart grade single leg
kickstands. Given that the original poster was indicating an interest
in kickstands, it would be great to know why you believe they are
dangerous.

thanks,
Sam.

Well I have basically the same belief about bike stands as bells and horns,
they are all useless and dangerous :P

The stands are mostly pretty [censored] for standing up a bike, even worse if you
have a soft surface and heavy loads on the bike ( from loaded panniers ), if
the bike was not designed for a stand you risk damage to the frame, with old
steel touring types you can get away with it but on modern alloy or carbon
frames it might be a bit dodgy.

< http://www.bikesportz.com.au/products/minoura/bike_acc.html >

See what I mean about those designs.

< http://www.bikecare.co.uk/acc/kickstands.html >

This one has a bit larger foot but I would still be concerned about frame
damage.

<
http://cgi.ebay.com/KICK-STAND-BIKE-CHOICE-OF-TWO-STYLES-ATB-ROAD-BMX_W0QQitemZ250076502807QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250076502807 >

These types are not very stable for a touring bike loaded with panniers.

And bells and horns are dangerous as you generally have to take your hands
off the brakes and move them to ring / blast the horn, thus reducing your
stability and your ability to stop and control the bike.

A bell is only really any good to use as a missile as a ringing a bell will
not heard by a driver in a car, and a pedestrian will not have a clue what
direction a bell tells them your going to pass them on or what direction you
want them to move to.

I nearly got hit by a car coming at me through give way intersection ( I was
on the main road she was trying to beat another car through it ) the other
day on the way to the bike races, I yelled out loudly "Yo" at the top of my
voice and hit the brakes to avoid the car she also hit the brakes and just
missed me.
I think she saw me and thought she could beat me but did not take my speed
into consideration as I was traveling at around 48 km/h on the flat.

If I had a horn or bell I would probably have been under that car, as I
would have not had my hands on my brake levers and would have been fumbling
for a bell or horn button.

Thanks Bleve, would appreciate that. As for being dangerous, I cant work
that one out. All I know is that my bike was in "danger" of falling over
each time I lent it on a tree with 4 panniers on it and the 2 with good
stands had no problems.
Kathy

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Aldi has a stand on sale tomorrow.

<http://www.aldi.com.au/product_03/product_55.html>

Looks like it could be a very useful workstand at a reasonable price.

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Stands that are attached to the bike are plain dangerous and if a bike is
fitted with one it should be removed for safety reasons.

Well, we agree on that.
However, if it is a stand like they have on those Indian workbikes, no
problem.

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Thanks Bleve, would appreciate that. As for being dangerous, I cant work
that one out. All I know is that my bike was in "danger" of falling over
each time I lent it on a tree with 4 panniers on it and the 2 with good
stands had no problems.
Kathy

Kathy,
You've probably seen this before, but one little gizmo I got very attached
too on my tourer was an elastic strap I hooked around the brake lever to
hold it on when you're stopped. Stops a bike with 4 panniers from rolling
and toppling when you lean it against stuff. I can see the benefit of a
stand too but I'm not too sure how stable a kickstand would be with a
heavily laden tourer. I was thinking of fitting one to a MTB that I use to
tow a kid's trailer, that would be good when you need to stop to open gates
etc.

Adam

I had not seen or thought of that Adam. So if I got myself a good quality
elastic, just left it on the bars and then when I stop I put it over the
brake lever firmly for the back wheel? Is the strap like a big rubber band
or more like a small hockey strap? Thanks for this bit of info, any other
hints would be really appreciated
Kathy

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just us said:

I had not seen or thought of that Adam. So if I got myself a good quality
elastic, just left it on the bars and then when I stop I put it over the
brake lever firmly for the back wheel? Is the strap like a big rubber band
or more like a small hockey strap? Thanks for this bit of info, any other
hints would be really appreciated
Kathy

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Just a strong piece of elastic or rubber band. I have drop bars and it just sits around the drops and you can pull it forward to pull the brake lever in, but it work just the same with flat bars. I use it on the front rather than the back as it's the front end turning and rolling that causes it to fall over. Glad you're enjoying your new bike too.

Adam

just us said:

Having just been on a 3 day ride I realised that I would really like to get
a stand for my Trek.Each time we pulled up 2 out of the 4 of us had stands
and were able to just get off the bike and put it on the stand. Hubby and I
had to hunt for trees, then fight over who got there first lol. Trouble is
the LBS( 100kms away ) who sold me the bike says you cant put a stand on
it??????
Went into LBS in town here and bought same stand that my friend got on her
Gary Fisher, it is an adjustable which is supposed to fit on most bikes but
alas it doesnt fit my Trek - the frame coming away from the back wheel seems
very wide and that seems to be the problem. They did have some stands there
that you mount thru your back axle but I didnt like the look of that at all.
Bleve??? hopeyou can help as you have just been to Trek Uni.
Thanks for any help
Kathy

Stands are bad, mmmkay....

I used to think they were good, but now I agree they are dangerous -
having had them detach and work their way into the rear wheel/pedals -
despite being properly mounted and tight. Happened on my bike and
kids' bikes - all bought from a bikeshop, so presumably properly
fitted.

Bikes lean up against stuff really well, or can lay on the ground if
there's nothing to lean against. Easy.

Tony F

Terryc said:

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Quoted message said:

>Stands that are attached to the bike are plain dangerous and if a bike is
>fitted with one it should be removed for safety reasons.

Well, we agree on that.
However, if it is a stand like they have on those Indian workbikes, no
problem.

Are they more like the centre doubles at http://hebie.de/ or are they
rear axle/triangle doubles?

Sam R.

Sam R. said:

Are they more like the centre doubles at http://hebie.de/ or are they
rear axle/triangle doubles?

I couldn't see that.
Like a large trianlge where one point attatches o either side of the
rear hub. You basically back the rear wheel up and over.

I have been meaning to make myself one for a while.

just us said:

Having just been on a 3 day ride I realised that I would really like to get
a stand for my Trek.Each time we pulled up 2 out of the 4 of us had stands
and were able to just get off the bike and put it on the stand. Hubby and I
had to hunt for trees, then fight over who got there first lol. Trouble is
the LBS( 100kms away ) who sold me the bike says you cant put a stand on
it??????

I had a look at the 7x00 frames today, there's a mounting plate for a
stand between the chainstays. A generic bottom bracket stand should
fit in it just fine. I recall fitting one a few weeks ago, no dramas,
but a socket set will come in handy and it's easiest if you have the
back wheel out when you fit it.