Stand up gliding on flatground?

hey ive been told that the easiest way to go into them is to glide both
feet on the frame then just stand up. i have no idea for the daike.
hope that helps.
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What's the difference between "regular" and Daike glide?

(Daike should be capitalized because it's a proper name)

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johnfoss said:

What's the difference between "regular" and Daike glide?

(Daike should be capitalized because it's a proper name)

Daike is like a seat on side stand up wheel walk. something like that.

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Daike is like a seat on side stand up wheel walk. something like that.

Ah yes, I know that one. I don't think he came up with it, but he's the
guy in the videos. I think it needs a better name as I think Daike
Izumeda *has* made up some other moves...

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Yeah, I am not sure why it is named after him (I doubt he was first to
do it), but it is much easier to say then "stand up seat on side one
foot wheel walk".

I would like to learn regular stand up gliding on flat first. So does
anyone have the answers/more tips for my questions above?

Thanks.

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well im almost certain the easiest way is to just glide normally (with
both feet on frame, one foot overlapping the tyre) and then stand up,
other methods such as jumping straight up are much harder.
Unfortunately i can only go about 5-10m and return to pedals at best.
Its something ive been meaning to learn as soon as i have some free
time on my hands (too much dam school).

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Stand-up gliding itself is not an unusually hard skill. As you seem to
have found out, its the transition that's the problem. My method is as
follows: ride quickly, put left foot on frame and ride one-footed a
short ways, remove right foot and coast very briefly before setting it
overlapping the tire and frame, then stand up as soon as possible,
while holding the seat. I never spent much time learning to glide with
both feet on the frame before I learned this transition, but I picked
it up in the process of learning it. You could conceivably do it with
the gliding foot only on the tire, but I think it would be a lot
harder. Some things I found helpful in getting the transition:
1. Don't stare at the ground, or that's where you'll end up.
2. Lean back a lot before and while you are standing up.
3. Minimize the amount of time you are holding onto the saddle. I only
hold it for a split second while I'm standing up, then let go
immediately.
4. Stand up quickly; when you're standing up, you're in an awkward
position, and are more likely to lose your balance.
5. When you put your gliding foot overlapping the tire and frame, be
very careful exactly how you position it. If you don't get enough shoe
on the tire, the unicycle tends to shoot out.

Once you get up, use as little pressure as possible in order to
maximize distance. If you can coast regularly, short bits of stand-up
coasting shouldn't be a lot harder. Avoid any sudden change in
pressure, and use mostly your coasting reflexes to balance, regardless
of whether your foot is touching the tire much.

Stand-up glide is probably my favorite trick (skill), but the
transition can be a real nuisance.

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okay, i was practicing some today with not much success (i did manage to
get into the stand up glide a few times though).

A question i have is: when do you want your gliding toe to make contact
with the tire?

Is your other foot (non gliding one) on the frame before you start
standing up or after?

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The non-gliding foot (for me, at least) is one the frame before I start
standing up. When I'm in my best form, I stand up almost as soon as my
toe touches the tire, but lately I've been out of practice, so I have
to glide a little ways before I can stand up.

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General:
1. Ever do Stand up Tricks with both feets on the frame. Except you do
some wheel walk, then your leg with the foot is on the tyre...
2. You don't need your hand for stand up tricks, that makes them look
unelegant :/

Going into stand up gliding from gliding:

- Glide with both feets on the frame your dominant foot is on the tyre.
- During the stand up you may coast a little while...
- Put some pressure on your ferse to bring the back of your feets down,
to prevent the uni from breaking out to the back
- Move up in the form of an S-curve. Your body does this on his own, in
the end, when you can do this trick nearly perfectly somebody else
wouldn't see this movement any more (as you don't see it in japanese
videos)
- Enjoy the stand-up gliding

Going up from 1tf:
This is basically the same as above. You ride one foot put the second
foot up on the tyre and the frame use the acceleration from putting the
foot on the frame to move up to stand-up glide.
So putting up the foot from 1ft riding onto the frame and going up to
stand up is in a way one movement.

Everytime you do a trick just relax, imagine your trick you will do
next and let your body behave on his own. Your body knows how to move
weight to manage your balance so let him do this instead of telling
him.

When i'm going up to stand up glides this depends much on the tyres
surface, my shoes sole and the underground which i'm riding on. Due to
those circumstances i succees very often or not =)

For motivating yourself the best feeling is the gliding in stand up 🙂

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Meanwhile I was in the gym and tested either going up from gliding and
1ft. In my opinion it is more secure to go up from 1ft. To me it feels
more solid and the success rate seems to be higher...

Any others with those observations?

I'm going to learn this from 1ft now. Anyway going up from gliding is
obsolete while doing this in a pairs or individual freestyle field,
there is too less space...

Ride on
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okay i got alot of practice in with these transistions today. Here is
what I found.

_*Here_is_how_i_do_the_transistion:_(or_at_least_it_seems_to_work_out_the_best)*_

ride 1 footed (my gliding foot on the frame), and having the toe of my
foot hanging off, but NOT touching the tire. Next I bring my other foot
up and do a short coast (very short). While coasting I then stand up
and continue coasting. If i get all the way up i -try- pressing my toe
onto the tire and glide.

_*Some_problems_i_am_having*:_

-Alot of the times when i do the transition I coast up, and then
continue coasting in a stand up coast. If i try to put my toe on the
tire, i always put way to much pressure on it (not purposefully) and
stop, then fall.
-Sometimes my foot will accidently hit the tire before i stand up
causing me to stop and fall off forward.
-The #1 problem I seem to have is after i stand up, is to get the seat
between my knees. Alot of times ill stand up and then the seat will
just go backwards right into the ground.

*Any comments/suggestions for any of these things?* *Would it help more
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About your #1 problem, raise your seat up, my friend was having the same
problem, and after he raised the seat, it was fine.

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Jerrick said:

About your #1 problem, raise your seat up, my friend was having the same
problem, and after he raised the seat, it was fine.

I think my seat is high enough. If i raised it much higher i wouldnt
beable to reach the pedal when it was in the down position.

When i stand up on the frame, the seat will sometimes go behind me.
After it is behind me, there is my weight pressing down on it, so it
will fall down and land like it is in a seat drag.

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gossi said:

- Put some pressure on your ferse to bring the back of your feets down,
to prevent the uni from breaking out to the back

Well, going up to stand-up from coasting is insecure. Well, a little
coast happen sometimes when you go up but you shouldn't intend to go up
over coasting. For going up to stand up you have the following
position:
1st foot: on tyre and frame
2nd foot: on frame

There are *3* points where you put pressure on. While riding/gliding
and going up the point on the tyre must loose some pressure or you
would stop.

Back in the 1ft position, when you put your second foot up on the frame
you should come into the gliding position, with both feets on the frame
and one toe on the tyre. That's all. I explained the rest above 🙂 Go
ahead, the transition isn't that easy, so enjoy gliding after getting
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sorry for a un-informational post but when the japanese peeps do it,
isnt it usually coasting that is on flat?

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unijesse said:

sorry for a un-informational post but when the japanese peeps do it,
isnt it usually coasting that is on flat?

most of the time its gliding, espically (sp?) when they extend one leg
out. You can tell that are putting pressure on the wheel because there
speed slows down a lot. When they are going into the stand up gliding
from what it looks is coasting, but usually the have one of there toes
on the wheel (gliding with both feet on the frame).

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i have not worked on this transistion quite as much lately, but i was
thinking i should work alot on gliding with both feet on the frame.
This trick is giving me alot of trouble. Is the balance more like
coasting or gliding? Also before i get into this trick (pedaling one
footed with my right foot on the frame (my gliding foot)), when should
my toe make contact with the tire, as i left my other foot to the
frame? or before or after?

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