Standing vs Hand-held mixers

Dee Randall said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side tests
on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and butter cream
frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those
prepared in a standing mixer."

It's interesting that they used it for egg whites, cookies, cakes and butter
cream frosting, say that results for those things are virtually identical and
then say that the stand up model is more versatile because the dough hook is
good for kneading bread.

I bought a decent stand up model a few years ago. I am not even sure where it
is now. I stuck it in a closet somewhere because I didn't have room in the
kitchen for things I don't really need. I have only made one batch of bread in
the last two years and did that by hand. My hand held mixer has been able to
handle everything else I need a mixer for.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side tests
on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and butter cream
frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those
prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Caught the ATC program recently and they were doing that exact
comparison in one of the segments. the KitchenAid handheld of course won
out in the handheld category.

I still have my Sunbeam Mixmaster. It's about 12 years old and does a
fine job of mixing. But I want to start experimenting with doughs and
it's dough hooks are a joke. Hmmm - I know someone with a metal shop -
maybe I should have them build me a dough paddle.

But it'd probably be easier to plunk down a couple hundred and just get
something capable.

One thing the stand up has that the hand mixer doesn't is the "walk
away" factor. This is huge if you have children in the house. I can
start the whipped cream and then console a crying child while watching
dessert finish itself.

Yes, they are large and take up a lot of counter space, but I find it
inspiring. Thirty minutes to cookies!

If you embrace the KitchenAid and buy the attachments, the serious cook
requires fewer tools in the kicthen with that massive motor to hook
things to.

Vickie McCorkendale

"Culinary Vixen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

One thing the stand up has that the hand mixer doesn't is the "walk
away" factor. This is huge if you have children in the house. I can
start the whipped cream and then console a crying child while watching
dessert finish itself.

Yes, they are large and take up a lot of counter space, but I find it
inspiring. Thirty minutes to cookies!

If you embrace the KitchenAid and buy the attachments, the serious cook
requires fewer tools in the kicthen with that massive motor to hook
things to.

Vickie McCorkendale

I have so many appliances, that the KA mixer is just another one that takes
up space. I put them all in an adjoining room to the kitchen (for now).
When I use one, DH carries it into the kitchen for me -- If not for him, I
probably wouldn't be using one, so I guess it's his job.
Only problem with my current home, there's generally not enough room for a
seating area, computers, TV's, stereos, books, in one open space. I think
I'll gut the house and put up columns instead of walls. Just kidding! I
can't even get to counter tops.
Dee Dee

Culinary Vixen said:

One thing the stand up has that the hand mixer doesn't is the "walk
away" factor. This is huge if you have children in the house. I can
start the whipped cream and then console a crying child while watching
dessert finish itself.

Thank goodness there are none of those little creatures in my household
anymore.

I had to whip some egg whites the other day. For some reason, I did them by
hand. By the time they were half done I was wishing that I had got out the
hand held mixer, but it never occurred to me to search for the stand-up. If
the option was bet by hand or get out the stand-up it would definitely be
easier to do it by hand.

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side
tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and
butter cream frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to
those prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers that
were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased in 1937:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg

And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg

They both work as well as the day they were purchased.

Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973. I
use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the "Dormey".
The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)

Wow - those are true relics but still functional.

It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
models dating from the 30's on up.

But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a mad
scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals to me.

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side
tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and
butter cream frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to
those prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers that
were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased in 1937:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg

And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg

They both work as well as the day they were purchased.

Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973. I
use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the "Dormey".
The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did
side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue,
cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique,
the hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical
to those prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers
that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased in
1937:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg

And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg

They both work as well as the day they were purchased.

Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973. I
use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the
"Dormey".
The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)

Wow - those are true relics but still functional.

It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a Western
Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French phone that
has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept a total of the
number of calls.

Quoted message said:

But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a mad
scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals to me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the photo.
There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor housing that
shines down into the mixing bowl.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

> Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
> differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did
> side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue,
> cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.
>
> "Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
> versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
> something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
> We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique,
> the hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical
> to those prepared in a standing mixer."
>
> There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
> Dee Dee

Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers
that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased in
1937:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg

And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg

They both work as well as the day they were purchased.

Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973. I
use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the
"Dormey".
The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)

Wow - those are true relics but still functional.

It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a Western
Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French phone that
has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept a total of the
number of calls.

If by chance that oval base is more towards gold, and handset is cream
colored you have what's called an Imperial. They took old 202 sets with
E type handests, brought them in, plated them, added a white F type
handset and matching cords, etc. These were pushed back into service
during the 1950's. The original sets were in production in the 20's.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a mad
scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals to me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the photo.
There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor housing that
shines down into the mixing bowl.

That greatly increases my "I want one." drool factor. I think I went to
geek heaven the first time I saw a laser guided radial saw. And now they
even have laser guided scissors. That mixer is like the precursor of the
devices I mentioned.

T <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...
> On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
> Dee Randall?
>
> > Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
> > differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they
> > did side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for
> > meringue, cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.
> >
> > "Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility
> > and versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
> > something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
> > We found however, that with some adjustments for time and
> > technique, the hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods
> > that are identical to those prepared in a standing mixer."
> >
> > There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
> > Dee Dee
>
> Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two
> mixers that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer
> purchased in 1937:
>
> http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg
>
> And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:
>
> http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg
>
> They both work as well as the day they were purchased.
>
> Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in
> 1973. I use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I
> also had a KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I
> inherited the "Dormey".
> The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)
>
>

Wow - those are true relics but still functional.

It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a
Western Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French
phone that has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept
a total of the number of calls.

If by chance that oval base is more towards gold, and handset is cream
colored you have what's called an Imperial. They took old 202 sets
with E type handests, brought them in, plated them, added a white F
type handset and matching cords, etc. These were pushed back into
service during the 1950's. The original sets were in production in the
20's.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a
mad scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals
to me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the
photo. There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor
housing that shines down into the mixing bowl.

That greatly increases my "I want one." drool factor. I think I went
to geek heaven the first time I saw a laser guided radial saw. And now
they even have laser guided scissors. That mixer is like the precursor
of the devices I mentioned.

Funny subject, speaking of kitchen-aid stand mixers. I have one with most
of the attachments.

When was the last time you flipped the lockdown switch?

Andy
I will not testify!

Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Funny subject, speaking of kitchen-aid stand mixers. I have one with
most of the attachments.

When was the last time you flipped the lockdown switch?

I have a K5. AFAIK, it doesn't have a lockdown switch. The head is
stationary and the bowl mount is operated by a lever to raise or lower
it

--
Wayne Boatwright å¨åª

Ya lucky BUM!!! ;-)

Any other Waynes out there??? C'mon, testify! ;-)

Andy

T said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side tests
on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and butter cream
frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those
prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Caught the ATC program recently and they were doing that exact
comparison in one of the segments. the KitchenAid handheld of course won
out in the handheld category.

I still have my Sunbeam Mixmaster. It's about 12 years old and does a
fine job of mixing. But I want to start experimenting with doughs and
it's dough hooks are a joke. Hmmm - I know someone with a metal shop -
maybe I should have them build me a dough paddle.

But it'd probably be easier to plunk down a couple hundred and just get
something capable.

I don't understand not using a stand-alone mixer AND a hand-held,
although not both on the same project. (Although I do use both when I
make my cream cheese chocolate mousse.) I couldn't get along without
both in my kitchen, and in handy places. Who wants to stand there and
hold a mixer when one could put the mix in a bowl in a stand-alone and
do something else for a couple minutes while the mixture mixes? I also
use the dough hook quite a bit. My KA mixer is always out (with a
cover on it) - although it may be in a corner appliance garage in my
new kitchen - and my hand-held is in a base cabinet, right in front,
where I can grab it quickly.

(I also use a stick blender for hot mixtures on the stove top, although
I don't see any reason for a "boat motor" like Flay uses.)

Both, not either/or. I don't see the reason for a comparison, as they
are used for different things.

N.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance differences
between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did side-by-side
tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue, cookies, cakes and
butter cream frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread, something a
hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and technique, the
hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to
those prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers that
were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased in 1937:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg

And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:

http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg

They both work as well as the day they were purchased.

Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973. I
use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the "Dormey".
The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

That's quite a collection -- if I weren't trying to rid myself of some
possessions, I'd make a request for inclusion in your will to me.
It only proves that they don't make things today like they used to. I oft
wonder how they engineer these things to last vs. last a few years.

I bought my first KitchenAid K5 in 1976. Somewhere in between 1973 and
1976 maybe KA went to hell -- other's I know still have theirs and they work
well, but until I started making bread in the late 80's, I didn't realize
what a disaster it was. It didn't keep me from buying two more -- all
because of cost, promotions and being talked into. I have no real
experience with anything other than KA, so I doubt if I ever buy anything
better (more expensive?) based on others' testimonials. Bread making has
been my main use for KA; I think there are probably better brand options for
me. I've investigated, but I know I'm not going to do anything about it
unless I opened a bakery!

I read all the responses to quite post -- quite interesting. Thanks for
taking the time to post your links. I know you've used your equipment a
lot, too, because I know you are quite interested in baking. By the way,
are you feeling deprived or relieved, or just feels good to take a break
from all your tasty desserts. When will you be taking a 'sugar' test --
This word is used a lot in my family; just yesterday a cousin called and
said that another cousin had sugar so bad, he looked like a bean pole. I
have associated 'sugar' with weight, but not so, I guess.

Trying to wake up! Can't do it this a.m., Too much sugar last night? No,
as a matter of fact, I had all the proper things, maybe that's why I am so
groggy. More tea! More tea!
Dee Dee

"Nancy1" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

T said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they did
side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue,
cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.

"Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility and
versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ...
We found however, that with some adjustments for time and
technique, the hand-held mixer generally yheilds baked goods that
are identical to those prepared in a standing mixer."

There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
Dee Dee

Caught the ATC program recently and they were doing that exact
comparison in one of the segments. the KitchenAid handheld of course
won out in the handheld category.

I still have my Sunbeam Mixmaster. It's about 12 years old and does a
fine job of mixing. But I want to start experimenting with doughs and
it's dough hooks are a joke. Hmmm - I know someone with a metal shop
- maybe I should have them build me a dough paddle.

But it'd probably be easier to plunk down a couple hundred and just
get something capable.

I don't understand not using a stand-alone mixer AND a hand-held,
although not both on the same project. (Although I do use both when I
make my cream cheese chocolate mousse.) I couldn't get along without
both in my kitchen, and in handy places. Who wants to stand there and
hold a mixer when one could put the mix in a bowl in a stand-alone and
do something else for a couple minutes while the mixture mixes? I
also use the dough hook quite a bit. My KA mixer is always out (with
a cover on it) - although it may be in a corner appliance garage in my
new kitchen - and my hand-held is in a base cabinet, right in front,
where I can grab it quickly.

(I also use a stick blender for hot mixtures on the stove top,
although I don't see any reason for a "boat motor" like Flay uses.)

Both, not either/or. I don't see the reason for a comparison, as they
are used for different things.

N.

And the r.f.c Forkin' award goes to....

N.

Can I have an autograph? Uh-oh, here comes the press. Gotta go! ;-)

Andy

On Tue 28 Mar 2006 07:01:00a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...
> On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
> Randall?
>
> > Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
> > differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they
> > did side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue,
> > cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.
> >
> > "Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility
> > and versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
> > something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ... We found however, that
> > with some adjustments for time and technique, the hand-held mixer
> > generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those prepared
> > in a standing mixer."
> >
> > There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
> > Dee Dee
>
> Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers
> that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased
> in 1937:
>
> http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg
>
> And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:
>
> http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg
>
> They both work as well as the day they were purchased.
>
> Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973.
> I use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
> KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the
> "Dormey".
> The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)
>
>

Wow - those are true relics but still functional.

It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a
Western Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French
phone that has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept a
total of the number of calls.

If by chance that oval base is more towards gold, and handset is cream
colored you have what's called an Imperial. They took old 202 sets with
E type handests, brought them in, plated them, added a white F type
handset and matching cords, etc. These were pushed back into service
during the 1950's. The original sets were in production in the 20's.

No the base is definitely brass, and the handset is black. It looks
exactly like the one in this picture except for the finish. I also have
the ringer box like this one.

http://tinyurl.com/kovfq

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a
mad scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals to
me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the
photo. There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor
housing that shines down into the mixing bowl.

That greatly increases my "I want one." drool factor. I think I went to
geek heaven the first time I saw a laser guided radial saw. And now they
even have laser guided scissors. That mixer is like the precursor of the
devices I mentioned.

Yeah, it's pretty neat. :-) I also have the citrus reamer attachment with
bowl and spout. I've seen a demonstration of the laser guided radial saw,
but didn't know that had laser guided scissors. That's something I could
use!

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
________________________________________

Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!

On Tue 28 Mar 2006 07:19:30a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Andy?

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T <[email hidden]> wrote in
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In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

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On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...
>> On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
>> Dee Randall?
>>
>> > Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
>> > differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they
>> > did side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for
>> > meringue, cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.
>> >
>> > "Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility
>> > and versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
>> > something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ... We found however,
>> > that with some adjustments for time and technique, the hand-held
>> > mixer generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those
>> > prepared in a standing mixer."
>> >
>> > There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
>> > Dee Dee
>>
>> Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two
>> mixers that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer
>> purchased in 1937:
>>
>> http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg
>>
>> And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:
>>
>> http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg
>>
>> They both work as well as the day they were purchased.
>>
>> Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in
>> 1973. I use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I
>> also had a KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I
>> inherited the "Dormey".
>> The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)
>>
>>
>
> Wow - those are true relics but still functional.
>
> It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
> models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a
Western Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French
phone that has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept
a total of the number of calls.

If by chance that oval base is more towards gold, and handset is cream
colored you have what's called an Imperial. They took old 202 sets
with E type handests, brought them in, plated them, added a white F
type handset and matching cords, etc. These were pushed back into
service during the 1950's. The original sets were in production in the
20's.

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> But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a
> mad scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals
> to me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the
photo. There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor
housing that shines down into the mixing bowl.

That greatly increases my "I want one." drool factor. I think I went
to geek heaven the first time I saw a laser guided radial saw. And now
they even have laser guided scissors. That mixer is like the precursor
of the devices I mentioned.

Funny subject, speaking of kitchen-aid stand mixers. I have one with most
of the attachments.

When was the last time you flipped the lockdown switch?

I have a K5. AFAIK, it doesn't have a lockdown switch. The head is
stationary and the bowl mount is operated by a lever to raise or lower it

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________________________________________

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Andy said:

Funny subject, speaking of kitchen-aid stand mixers. I have one with most
of the attachments.

When was the last time you flipped the lockdown switch?

Yesterday, making bread. Two-pound flour recipe.

1976 4.5.

Is it unusual to lock them down?

Pastorio

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

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On Tue 28 Mar 2006 07:01:00a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...

Quoted message said:

On Mon 27 Mar 2006 10:03:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it T?

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...
>> On Mon 27 Mar 2006 05:38:21p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
>> Randall?
>>
>> > Reading in a Cook's Illustrated 2003 about the performance
>> > differences between both KitchenAid handheld and standing, they
>> > did side-by-side tests on whipped cream, egg whites for meringue,
>> > cookies, cakes and butter cream frosting.
>> >
>> > "Our conclusion: The standing mixer offers greater flexibility
>> > and versatility. (It's dough hook is ideal for kneading bread,
>> > something a hand-held mixer can't do.) ... We found however, that
>> > with some adjustments for time and technique, the hand-held mixer
>> > generally yheilds baked goods that are identical to those prepared
>> > in a standing mixer."
>> >
>> > There were other comments. p. 24 Nov.& Dec. 2003 issue.
>> > Dee Dee
>>
>> Dee, you might find this amusing... I still own and use two mixers
>> that were owned by my mother. A GE 3-beater stand mixer purchased
>> in 1937:
>>
>> http://i1.tinypic.com/sevzo5.jpg
>>
>> And a Dormeyer "Dormey" hand mixer purchased in 1952:
>>
>> http://i1.tinypic.com/sew1zp.jpg
>>
>> They both work as well as the day they were purchased.
>>
>> Before I inherited these mixers I purchased a KitchenAid K5 in 1973.
>> I use it for yeast doughs and other heav-duty mixing. I also had a
>> KitchenAid hand-held mixer that I gave away when I inherited the
>> "Dormey".
>> The Dormey outperformed the KitchenAid by a mile. :-)
>>
>>
>
> Wow - those are true relics but still functional.
>
> It's funny but I'm like that with phones. For example I own several
> models dating from the 30's on up.

I have a couple of old phones, too, both from the 30's. One is a
Western Electric with an oval cast brass base. The other is a French
phone that has a little meter on top of the base which I assume kept a
total of the number of calls.

If by chance that oval base is more towards gold, and handset is cream
colored you have what's called an Imperial. They took old 202 sets with
E type handests, brought them in, plated them, added a white F type
handset and matching cords, etc. These were pushed back into service
during the 1950's. The original sets were in production in the 20's.

No the base is definitely brass, and the handset is black. It looks
exactly like the one in this picture except for the finish. I also have
the ringer box like this one.

http://tinyurl.com/kovfq

Ah yes - then you have either a Bell painted 202, or a customer modified
unit. In any case production on the originals dated from the mid 20's to
the mid 30's. The 302 which had everything in the desk set came out in
the mid 30's to be replaced by the 500 series in the mid 50's.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> But I love that GE you've got there. It looks like something from a
> mad scientists lab. Being that I'm a mad scientist type it appeals to
> me.

Thanks! The GE has another cool feature that you can't see in the
photo. There's a small bright light on the underside of the motor
housing that shines down into the mixing bowl.

That greatly increases my "I want one." drool factor. I think I went to
geek heaven the first time I saw a laser guided radial saw. And now they
even have laser guided scissors. That mixer is like the precursor of the
devices I mentioned.

Yeah, it's pretty neat. :-) I also have the citrus reamer attachment with
bowl and spout. I've seen a demonstration of the laser guided radial saw,
but didn't know that had laser guided scissors. That's something I could
use!

Same here. I can't cut a straight line to save my life. I've used the
time honored manner of creasing the paper first in one direction and
then the next and gently tearing when the need arises.

On Tue 28 Mar 2006 08:14:52a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

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I bought my first KitchenAid K5 in 1976. Somewhere in between 1973 and
1976 maybe KA went to hell -- other's I know still have theirs and they
work well, but until I started making bread in the late 80's, I didn't
realize what a disaster it was. It didn't keep me from buying two more
-- all because of cost, promotions and being talked into. I have no
real experience with anything other than KA, so I doubt if I ever buy
anything better (more expensive?) based on others' testimonials. Bread
making has been my main use for KA; I think there are probably better
brand options for me. I've investigated, but I know I'm not going to do
anything about it unless I opened a bakery!

I don't think there's any question that the quality of KA mixers has changed
over the decades. I'm not sure I'd want to buy one now.

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I read all the responses to quite post -- quite interesting. Thanks
for taking the time to post your links. I know you've used your
equipment a lot, too, because I know you are quite interested in baking.
By the way, are you feeling deprived or relieved, or just feels good to
take a break from all your tasty desserts. When will you be taking a
'sugar' test -- This word is used a lot in my family; just yesterday a
cousin called and said that another cousin had sugar so bad, he looked
like a bean pole. I have associated 'sugar' with weight, but not so, I
guess.

It's not necessarily so, but it is true in my case. I really needed to lose
a considerable amount of weight. So far I am down 34 pounds. I do miss the
homemade desserts, and I was even able to compensate for them from a diabetic
standpoint, but they difinitely hinder any attempt at weight loss. It does,
however, feel good to be off these foods for a while, and I'm feeling much
better physically. I know that I can never go back to eating with abandon in
the future without risking a weight gain. My doctor says that when I've
reached my goal weight I will no longer need any of the medications. That's
probably the best news.

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Trying to wake up! Can't do it this a.m., Too much sugar last night?
No, as a matter of fact, I had all the proper things, maybe that's why I
am so groggy. More tea! More tea!
Dee Dee

It's rainy here today, which is certainly welcome, but it makes me sleepy
too!

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
________________________________________

Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!