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  1. It's supposed to hit the high 70s today, so my thoughts turned to
    grilling. I picked up the following hints, which will probably bring
    out all the grilling aficionados:

    " I would suggest a method that takes very little practice to master,
    and is extremely accurate: use your finger to tell the doness level of
    your steak.

    "Rare- Touch your thumb and forefinger together and press on the fleshy
    part below your thumb. It should feel soft to the touch with your other
    forefinger and a little bouncy. This is how a rare steak feels.

    "Medium- Touch your thumb and middle finger together and press on the
    fleshy part below your thumb -- there's some give and it's springy to
    the touch. A medium steak will feel the same.

    Well Done- Touch your thumb and little finger together and press on the
    fleshy part below your thumb -- there's no give and it's quite firm.
    This is what a well-done steak feels like."

    Dora

    ..

  2. just make sure the juices run clear

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    just make sure the juices run clear

    On a steak? No way, nice bloody juice is what you want.

    You are confusing steak with chicken.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  4. "BHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    just make sure the juices run clear

    Not on MY steak. . .

    Nice & rosy . . .

    van

  5. very true, my bad, very sorry bout that. got a little to worried bout
    mad cow and forgot what i was saying

  6. BHD said:

    very true, my bad, very sorry bout that. got a little to worried bout
    mad cow and forgot what i was saying

    The prions that cause BSE are not destroyed by cooking.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  7. Quoted message said:
    BHD said:

    very true, my bad, very sorry bout that. got a little to worried bout
    mad cow and forgot what i was saying

    The prions that cause BSE are not destroyed by cooking.

    and you're not going to find them in steak anyway

  8. BHD said:

    just make sure the juices run clear

    No matter how much (or how little) you cook a steak or roast, the
    juices will never run clear.

    -sw

  9. Steve Wertz said:
    BHD said:

    just make sure the juices run clear

    No matter how much (or how little) you cook a steak or roast, the
    juices will never run clear.

    -sw

    Would it be possible BHD cooks it until there is no longer any juice?

    Would that be considered clear?

    I dunno.

    Lou

  10. BHD said:

    very true, my bad, very sorry bout that. got a little to worried bout
    mad cow and forgot what i was saying


    Cooking doesn't destroy BSE (Google cooking+destroy+BSE):

    http://www.farmaid.org/site/PageServer?pagename=info_facts_madcow

    <http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:oQYjiEZ1QJMJ:www.iowabeefcenter.org/content/BSEBulletsHartwig.pdf+cooking+to+destroy+BSE&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=ca&client=firefox-a>

    So cooking beef to the overdone stage isn't a useful preventative.

  11. sorry if this suggestion has been given I am coming into this discussion just
    now. There was a rule testing grill ed steak about pressing your finger your
    finger tip to the meat and if it felt like your nose or your chin or cheek
    something like that it was rare or medium or well. Don't. I remember. Does
    anyone remember that simple rule for testing doneness of beef ?
    --

    Laura excuse me if this has been posted earlier

    -Sautéed poo is still poo!

    Come join us at The Dirty Old Ladies! Be the adult your mother was afraid you
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  12. "limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    It's supposed to hit the high 70s today, so my thoughts turned to
    grilling. I picked up the following hints, which will probably bring out
    all the grilling aficionados:

    " I would suggest a method that takes very little practice to master, and
    is extremely accurate: use your finger to tell the doness level of your
    steak.

    "Rare- Touch your thumb and forefinger together and press on the fleshy
    part below your thumb. It should feel soft to the touch with your other
    forefinger and a little bouncy. This is how a rare steak feels.

    "Medium- Touch your thumb and middle finger together and press on the
    fleshy part below your thumb -- there's some give and it's springy to the
    touch. A medium steak will feel the same.

    Well Done- Touch your thumb and little finger together and press on the
    fleshy part below your thumb -- there's no give and it's quite firm. This
    is what a well-done steak feels like."

    Dora


    Here is what I do
    hold your open hand palm side down about a beer can in height above the
    grill.if you can count to five Mississippi's before you pull your hand away
    the grill is hot enough.Slap your 1.5 inch thick room temperature steaks on
    the grill and sprinkle with a little kosher salt.go grab a beer. don't
    piddle around in the kitchen- you got food on the grill.drink the beer,flip
    the meat,sprinkle with salt and go get another brewski.if you get flame ups
    pour your wife's beer on the flame to put them out.
    When I see the fat around the edges start to sizzle and I get about a
    teaspoon of juice on the top of the steak I pull it off.get another beer let
    the meat rest and then dig in

  13. tert in seattle said:
    Quoted message said:
    BHD said:

    very true, my bad, very sorry bout that. got a little to worried


    bout >> mad cow and forgot what i was saying

    Quoted message said:


    The prions that cause BSE are not destroyed by cooking.

    and you're not going to find them in steak anyway

    There was concern about T-bone steaks, as they contain part of the
    backbone. I believe those were generally banned in Europe because of
    that.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  14. Laura said:

    sorry if this suggestion has been given I am coming into this discussion just
    now. There was a rule testing grill ed steak about pressing your finger your
    finger tip to the meat and if it felt like your nose or your chin or cheek
    something like that it was rare or medium or well. Don't. I remember. Does
    anyone remember that simple rule for testing doneness of beef ?

    I cook steaks by touch. Rare feels like pressing your thumb against
    your lower lip. Medium feels more like the palm of your hand. Well
    done feels like the back of your hand.

  15. There are other biohazards associated with meat besides mad cow prions.
    Some are from the animal itself, and others are outside contaminents. They
    get into and onto the meat during the animals life, as well as during
    slaughter, butchering, and processing.

    The list includes parasites and bacteria. My guess would be that a
    grilling process that sears the outside will likely kill common surface
    organisms like salmonella. But leaving the inside extremely rare may be
    risky.

  16. anonMORON said:

    There are other biohazards associated with meat besides mad cow prions.
    Some are from the animal itself, and others are outside contaminents.  They
    get into and onto the meat during the animals life,  as well as during
    slaughter, butchering, and processing.

    The list  includes parasites and bacteria.  My guess would be that a
    grilling process that sears the outside will likely kill common surface
    organisms like salmonella.  But leaving the inside extremely rare may be
    risky.

    Internally meat is sterile, anon moron... now go slither back under
    your rock, ignorant slime.

    Sheldon

  17. Laura said:

    sorry if this suggestion has been given I am coming into this discussion just
    now. There was a rule testing grill ed steak about pressing your finger your
    finger tip to the meat and if it felt like your nose or your chin or cheek
    something like that it was rare or medium or well. Don't. I remember. Does
    anyone remember that simple rule for testing doneness of beef ?

    Putting your hand that close to the grill could cause an
    uncomfortable burn.

    Some people test ribs for doneness by poking them with a BBQ
    tool, seeing if there is a sort of "hollow" response. But
    this has nothing to do with steaks.

    In my experience the best way to cook a steak to the desired
    doneness is to time it.

    Steve

  18. "Steve Pope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Laura said:

    sorry if this suggestion has been given I am coming into this discussion just
    now. There was a rule testing grill ed steak about pressing your finger your
    finger tip to the meat and if it felt like your nose or your chin or cheek
    something like that it was rare or medium or well. Don't. I remember. Does
    anyone remember that simple rule for testing doneness of beef ?

    Putting your hand that close to the grill could cause an
    uncomfortable burn.

    Some people test ribs for doneness by poking them with a BBQ
    tool, seeing if there is a sort of "hollow" response. But
    this has nothing to do with steaks.

    In my experience the best way to cook a steak to the desired
    doneness is to time it.

    Steve

    There is an inherent risk of being burned when using the grill. A quick touch
    should just take a fraction of a second. If you are afraid of being burned go to
    a good restaurant for your steak. Really stupid people should just burn
    themselves to death and spare the rest of us from having to listen to then any
    longer, IMHO

    --

    Laura

    -Sautéed poo is still poo!

    Come join us at The Dirty Old Ladies! Be the adult your mother was afraid you
    would be!!
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDirtyOldLadies/

  19. (Steve Pope) said:
    Laura said:

    sorry if this suggestion has been given I am coming into this discussionjust
    now.  There was a rule testing grill ed steak about pressing your finger  your
    finger tip to the meat and if it  felt like your nose or your chin  or cheek
    something like that it was rare or medium or well.  Don't. I remember. Does
    anyone remember that simple rule for testing doneness of beef ?

    Putting your hand that close to the grill could cause an
    uncomfortable burn.

    She's not placing her hand on the grill, she's placing her finger on
    the steak and only for a brief moment... the steak acts as a perfect
    heat shield... the steaks I grill are larger than my hand and barely
    become warm in the center... you must grill itsy bitsy steaks and you
    grill them to death.

    Sheldon

  20. anon said:

    There are other biohazards associated with meat besides mad cow
    prions. Some are from the animal itself, and others are outside
    contaminents. They get into and onto the meat during the animals
    life, as well as during slaughter, butchering, and processing.

    The list includes parasites and bacteria. My guess would be that a
    grilling process that sears the outside will likely kill common
    surface organisms like salmonella. But leaving the inside extremely
    rare may be risky.

    You have some evidence for that?

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

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