STI 9 speed shifters

"Joel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay. Its hard to justify paying $300 or
more for new 10 speed shifters plus the cassette and who knows what
else to make it all work. I could get bar ends but don't really want
to do that.

Well, you have a couple of problems. First, the innards of a Shimano STI
lever is very complex. Further, there are no instructions on repairing.
Moreover, even if you could figure it out, small parts are non-existent. And
that's the good news.

Do a google search and look for Bill Cotton's STI repair instructions. There
is also a guy who took apart his 105 STI levers and has a write up on
cyclingforum.com tech section. I say good luck!

If you really want integrated shifters, then you may want to forget Shimano
STIs, and look into, yup, CAMPAGNOLO ERGO LEVERS. Not only are they
rebuildable, i.e., every small part is available at any LBS that has a QBP
account, but you can also find excellent instructions on how to rebuild it
too.

For instances, Andy Muzi's Yellow Jersey has the Campy ergo repair manual
and an excellent write up by Paul Southworth.

Prefer video? Then check out www.youtube.com, there's a couple of videos on
disassembling and assembling ergo levers.

For *less* than $300, you can get yourself a nice set of Campy ergo levers
(Veloce or Centaur quality) AND a Campy rear der. Think about it!

Joel said:

I am building a project bike

What is a project bike?
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Joel said:

I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay.

I see new ones at icyclesusa.com. I am sure there are other vendors
online.
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All of the major parts & accessory books have the 9 speed levers. Quality,
KHS, Hawley, J&B, and those are just the ones laying on my desk...

Part of the service that a good LBS extends is the ability to find the parts
you need. Discount catalogues are just that. They sell what they can get
cheap to sell cheap. Its alright if you are buying a known commodity product
in a box. But as soon as you need a brain attached to the sale, you are
stuck.

The price for the 9 speed is very close to the 10. The real question is why
go backward? I believe the 9 speed derailleurs will work with 10 speed
levers. The freehubs will accommodate 10 speed cassettes.

By the end of the year, I will upgrade all 7 of my roadbikes to 10 speed.
Yeah, I know it is not necessary, but you know something, I want it... so
there.

Bruce

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Joel said:

I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay.

I see new ones at icyclesusa.com. I am sure there are other vendors
online.
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Joel said:

I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay.

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&brand=&sku=20301&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Shifters%2FBrake%20Levers%20%2D%20Road

Its hard to justify paying $300 or

Quoted message said:

more for new 10 speed shifters plus the cassette and who knows what
else to make it all work. I could get bar ends but don't really want
to do that.

Thanks - Joel

email hidden said:

On May 1, 12:46 am, Joel <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&bran...

Nashbar only lets you use one coupon at a time.

email hidden said:

Joel said:

I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay.

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&bran...

"Custom matched set", indeed. It really does take a 'big set' to
present mis-matched stuff in this manner!

Ozark Bicycle said:

On May 1, 9:59 am, "[email hidden]"

Quoted message said:

On May 1, 12:46 am, Joel <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
any more except used ones on ebay.

Quoted message said:

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

Quoted message said:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&bran...

"Custom matched set", indeed. It really does take a 'big set' to
present mis-matched stuff in this manner!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use STI. But if I did, and I could get an Ultegra 9 speed STI
for the rear and 105 9 speed STI for the front, for $135, I would not
care if they were mis matched. Do you only use matched cerailleurs?
Do you only use the crankset that matches the group? Didn't someone
named Armstrong use a downtube shifter and a regular brake lever with
his right STI shifter? A lot less matched than the above set.

The clueless person who started the thread was yapping about how he
could not find any 9 speed STI except used on eBay. What a joke. I'm
surprised he could find anything on eBay if he could not find 9 speed
STI shifters on the Nashbar website.

email hidden said:

On May 1, 11:41 am, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

On May 1, 9:59 am, "[email hidden]"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On May 1, 12:46 am, Joel <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
> over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
> upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
> am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
> and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
> shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
> shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
> inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
> Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
> any more except used ones on ebay.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&bran...

Quoted message said:

"Custom matched set", indeed. It really does take a 'big set' to
present mis-matched stuff in this manner!-

Quoted message said:

I don't use STI. But if I did, and I could get an Ultegra 9 speed STI
for the rear and 105 9 speed STI for the front, for $135, I would not
care if they were mis matched. Do you only use matched cerailleurs?
Do you only use the crankset that matches the group?

Geez, Russell, my semi-snide comment was aimed at Nashbar ("Custom
matched set" in the copy), not at you or your effort to be helpful.

FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

Quoted message said:

Didn't someone
named Armstrong use a downtube shifter and a regular brake lever with
his right STI shifter? A lot less matched than the above set.

::::SIGH::: I *could* give less of a s**t what The Lance did, but it
would require a real effort......

Ozark Bicycle said:

FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

See also Aero <strike>Brake Levers</strike> Speed Modulators:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dgktw>.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve Gravrock said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

See also Aero <strike>Brake Levers</strike> Speed Modulators:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dgktw>.

And don't forget the frame names.

The standard Nashbar hardtail frame is called the "Frame". The road
frame is the "Framé" (pronounced "fra-MAY"😉. They send you a downtube
decal with that name on it.

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve Gravrock said:

On 2007-05-01, Ozark Bicycle <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

Quoted message said:

See also Aero <strike>Brake Levers</strike> Speed Modulators:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dgktw>.

And don't forget the frame names.

The standard Nashbar hardtail frame is called the "Frame". The road
frame is the "Framé" (pronounced "fra-MAY"😉. They send you a downtube
decal with that name on it.

I left the downtube sticker off my Nashbar Frame. Nashbar does get
some funny comments in their descriptions occasionally. Like the
speed modulator Profile brakes shown above. And the one about the
Greenfield kickstand a few years ago. Something about the owner
(Arni) wanted a kickstand and they found one, the Greenfield!

Nashbar 10% off coupon good through 5/14/07 W230
Nashbar free shipping code good through 5/14/07 2314374572

Catalogs say cannot combine offers but... Good on phone or internet
orders. Maybe on the phone you can convince the order taker to take
both coupon codes.

Quoted message said:

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve Gravrock said:

On 2007-05-01, Ozark Bicycle <[email hidden]>
wrote:

Quoted message said:

> FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
> recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
> MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

Quoted message said:

See also Aero <strike>Brake Levers</strike> Speed Modulators:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dgktw>.

And don't forget the frame names.

The standard Nashbar hardtail frame is called the "Frame". The road
frame is the "Framé" (pronounced "fra-MAY"😉. They send you a downtube
decal with that name on it.

I left the downtube sticker off my Nashbar Frame. Nashbar does get
some funny comments in their descriptions occasionally. Like the
speed modulator Profile brakes shown above. And the one about the
Greenfield kickstand a few years ago. Something about the owner
(Arni) wanted a kickstand and they found one, the Greenfield!

Nashbar 10% off coupon good through 5/14/07 W230
Nashbar free shipping code good through 5/14/07 2314374572

Too late: I already bought my Nashbar "X" frame. Despite not being
spec'd for it, squeeze-spacing down to 130mm appears to be problem free.
This is a considerable upgrade from my previous cyclocross bikes, which
were my road bike with inverted tread knobbies (fast in the dry, death
in the wet), and a super-ghetto reconfiguration of a Japanese-made
"Bianchi" road bike from the mid-80s

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

email hidden said:

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

Three years ago there was some fluke with the Nashbar website and they
were offering 9-speed Ultegra shifters for $127 + %10 off. This was
actually cheaper than the 105's.

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Steve Gravrock <[email hidden]> wrote:

> On 2007-05-01, Ozark Bicycle <[email hidden]>
> wrote:

> > FWIW, it seems someone at Nashbar fancies themselves a bit funny. I
> > recall, 3-4 years ago, they were blowing out some long-lost, NOS
> > MA-40s with the (ironic???) copy line "these won't last long".

> See also Aero <strike>Brake Levers</strike> Speed Modulators:
> <http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dgktw>.

And don't forget the frame names.

The standard Nashbar hardtail frame is called the "Frame". The road
frame is the "Framé" (pronounced "fra-MAY"😉. They send you a downtube
decal with that name on it.

I left the downtube sticker off my Nashbar Frame. Nashbar does get
some funny comments in their descriptions occasionally. Like the
speed modulator Profile brakes shown above. And the one about the
Greenfield kickstand a few years ago. Something about the owner
(Arni) wanted a kickstand and they found one, the Greenfield!

Nashbar 10% off coupon good through 5/14/07 W230
Nashbar free shipping code good through 5/14/07 2314374572

Too late: I already bought my Nashbar "X" frame. Despite not being
spec'd for it, squeeze-spacing down to 130mm appears to be problem free.
This is a considerable upgrade from my previous cyclocross bikes, which
were my road bike with inverted tread knobbies (fast in the dry, death
in the wet), and a super-ghetto reconfiguration of a Japanese-made
"Bianchi" road bike from the mid-80s

A purpose built cross bike is special. Building up my Redline took my riding up
a major step.

You'll enjoy it.

Ron

email hidden said:

On May 1, 11:41 am, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

On May 1, 9:59 am, "[email hidden]"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On May 1, 12:46 am, Joel <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I am building a project bike and have a pair of ST-7700 shifters left
> over from another bike I upgraded to 10 speed. One of the reasons I
> upgraded is that the right shift lever stopped working. Well I know I
> am probably screwed but I installed the shifter on the project bike
> and gave it the WD-40 flush but it did not help at all. It works ok
> shifting up, but when I shift down the inner lever hangs up and won't
> shift unless I hold the outer lever steady with one hand and push the
> inner lever with the other hand then it works but not very practical.
> Is there any way to repair this? I can't even find 9 speed STI levers
> any more except used ones on ebay.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

$149.99 before 10% off coupon at Nashbar and free shipping coupon at
Nashbar. 9 speed STI Ultegra rear and 9 speed 105 front. $135
delivered.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=104&subcategory=1194&bran...

Quoted message said:

"Custom matched set", indeed. It really does take a 'big set' to
present mis-matched stuff in this manner!- Hide quoted text -

Quoted message said:

- Show quoted text -

I don't use STI. But if I did, and I could get an Ultegra 9 speed STI
for the rear and 105 9 speed STI for the front, for $135, I

The price is $149.99 and there are not any Nashbar coupons at this
time.
At least that I could FIND. Yes I am so clueless I have been riding
and servicing bikes for 35 years and building my own wheels for 5.
I will admit to making a wrong statement that new 9 speed shifters are
not available.

Quoted message said:

The clueless person who started the thread was yapping about how he
could not find any 9 speed STI except used on eBay. What a joke. I'm
surprised he could find anything on eBay if he could not find 9 speed
STI shifters on the Nashbar website.

Joel said:

The price is $149.99 and there are not any Nashbar coupons at this
time.
At least that I could FIND. Yes I am so clueless I have been riding
and servicing bikes for 35 years and building my own wheels for 5.
I will admit to making a wrong statement that new 9 speed shifters are
not available.

You will also have to admit to being so clueless you did not even
bother to read the post I made in this thread 11 hours 43 minutes
before your post. I listed the Nashbar coupon codes at 10:46 AM on
May 2, 2007. You posted you could not find any Nashbar coupon codes
at 10:29 PM on May 2, 2007. Wow.

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Date: 2 May 2007 08:46:40 -0700
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On May 1, 11:33 pm, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Nashbar 10% off coupon good through 5/14/07 W230
Nashbar free shipping code good through 5/14/07 2314374572

Catalogs say cannot combine offers but... Good on phone or internet
orders. Maybe on the phone you can convince the order taker to take
both coupon codes.