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  1. Anyone in the Galaxy FM / Stockton area?

    Galaxy FM are currently playing an advert commissioned by Stockton
    Borough Council about cycle helmets:

    In a "Children's Story" sort of style, a voice told of Danny who was
    out on his bike and not wearing a helmet. He met Timmy who was wearing
    a helmet. Danny laughed at Timmy. "Ha Ha Ha. You look silly in that
    helmet. Just then a car came along and hit the two boys. "Boing!" went
    Timmy's helmet on the road. "Crack" went Danny's fragile skull.
    "Splat" went Danny's brains, all over the road. Timmy was OK but Danny
    won't be laughing any more.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  2. Just zis Guy said:

    Anyone in the Galaxy FM / Stockton area?

    We can get Galaxy FM if we can find a button not tuned to Radio 4.

    Quoted message said:


    Galaxy FM are currently playing an advert commissioned by Stockton
    Borough Council about cycle helmets:

    In a "Children's Story" sort of style, a voice told of Danny who was
    out on his bike and not wearing a helmet. He met Timmy who was wearing
    a helmet. Danny laughed at Timmy. "Ha Ha Ha. You look silly in that
    helmet. Just then a car came along and hit the two boys. "Boing!" went
    Timmy's helmet on the road. "Crack" went Danny's fragile skull.
    "Splat" went Danny's brains, all over the road. Timmy was OK but Danny
    won't be laughing any more.

    I'll see whether they play it tonight on the way home. Then I might
    complain ;-)

    Colin

  3. Just zis Guy said:

    Anyone in the Galaxy FM / Stockton area?

    Galaxy FM are currently playing an advert commissioned by Stockton
    Borough Council about cycle helmets:

    In a "Children's Story" sort of style, a voice told of Danny who was
    out on his bike and not wearing a helmet. He met Timmy who was wearing
    a helmet. Danny laughed at Timmy. "Ha Ha Ha. You look silly in that
    helmet. Just then a car came along and hit the two boys. "Boing!" went
    Timmy's helmet on the road. "Crack" went Danny's fragile skull.
    "Splat" went Danny's brains, all over the road. Timmy was OK but Danny
    won't be laughing any more.

    Guy

    ASA?

    Tony

  4. On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:10:08 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    ASA

    OFCOM I think.

    Guy
    --
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    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  5. Just zis Guy said:

    On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:10:08 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    ASA

    OFCOM I think.

    According to Ofcom : Please note that from 1 November 2004 the
    Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) will take on responsibility for
    dealing with complaints about television and radio advertising.

    According to the Code, advertisements aimed at Children under 16 should
    be pre-cleared by the RACC and must not contain information which could
    harm then physically, mentally or morally. Advertisements addressed to
    young listeners must not exaggerate or mislead about the size, qualities
    or capabilities of products. Advertisements must not take advantage of
    the immaturity or natural credulity of children. Advertisements must
    not directly urge children to buy products or to ask adults to buy
    products for them. Advertising must not condone inappropriate health
    standards for children.

    That should be enough for starters.

    http://tinyurl.com/d2hbl

    Tony

  6. On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:55:49 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    According to Ofcom : Please note that from 1 November 2004 the
    Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) will take on responsibility for
    dealing with complaints about television and radio advertising.

    Ah, reversing the previous position. Ta.

    Guy
    --
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    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  7. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone in the Galaxy FM / Stockton area?

    Galaxy FM are currently playing an advert commissioned by Stockton
    Borough Council about cycle helmets:

    In a "Children's Story" sort of style, a voice told of Danny who was
    out on his bike and not wearing a helmet. He met Timmy who was wearing
    a helmet. Danny laughed at Timmy. "Ha Ha Ha. You look silly in that
    helmet. Just then a car came along and hit the two boys. "Boing!" went
    Timmy's helmet on the road. "Crack" went Danny's fragile skull.
    "Splat" went Danny's brains, all over the road. Timmy was OK but Danny
    won't be laughing any more.

    I think you will find it is public information broadcasting not advertising.

    Cliff

  8. Just zis Guy said:

    On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:27:20 +0100, "Cliff"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I think you will find it is public information broadcasting not advertising.

    But it is still regulated.

    Do we have the category "public information broadcasting" as in the
    USAian sense? I thought it was just advertising paid for by the council
    like any other organisation that wants airtime.

    Tony

  9. On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:38:59 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    Do we have the category "public information broadcasting" as in the
    USAian sense? I thought it was just advertising paid for by the council
    like any other organisation that wants airtime.

    I think so too, the complaint against the Cyclenonsense campaign was
    handled by the Usual Suspects, but I have sought clarification anyway.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  10. Colin Blackburn said:

    Hmm, I lasted about 10 minutes before the incessant pounding drove me
    back to radio 4.

    Someone managed to listen to it - I had a phone call from Cotterell
    House this morning asking me if the complaint received by ASA
    regarding this ad was from me, on the grounds that the bloke from
    Galaxy was rather [censored] about it.

    Not me, guv. But I might well have to now, if I can get a transcript,
    to ensure that as many points as possible are put before the
    Authority. We don't want them getting off on a technicality.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  11. Just zis Guy said:
    Colin Blackburn said:

    Hmm, I lasted about 10 minutes before the incessant pounding drove me
    back to radio 4.

    Someone managed to listen to it - I had a phone call from Cotterell
    House this morning asking me if the complaint received by ASA
    regarding this ad was from me, on the grounds that the bloke from
    Galaxy was rather [censored] about it.

    Not me, guv. But I might well have to now, if I can get a transcript,
    to ensure that as many points as possible are put before the
    Authority. We don't want them getting off on a technicality.

    Guy

    If you can't, write to the Council concerned with an FOI request for a
    script or copy of the advert. They must supply it within 21 days which
    should give enough time and they would be hard put to refuse or charge
    for it under any of the exemptions.

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

  12. Just zis Guy said:

    ... on the grounds that the bloke from Galaxy was rather
    [censored] about it.

    My heart bleeds for him.

    --
    Dave...

  13. On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:43:05 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    If you can't, write to the Council concerned with an FOI request for a
    script or copy of the advert. They must supply it within 21 days which
    should give enough time and they would be hard put to refuse or charge
    for it under any of the exemptions.

    This I will do. In the mean time I have been given a transcript made
    by a listener. I did not think it could possibly be as crass as
    described. My mate Adam, who contacted the station before they got
    sniffy, was played a copy: yes, it genuinely is that crass.

    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/SBC_Complaint

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  14. But it must be good, it won awards, y'know.

    http://www.stockton.gov.uk/pressoffice/localnews/year2005/april/biketoschool

    "To mark Bike to School Week, the Road Safety Team are running their
    award winning Cycle Helmet campaign 'Timmy's Brains' for the week on
    Galaxy Radio and TFM Radio to help get the message of safer cycling
    across to thousands of listeners."

  15. audrey said:

    But it must be good, it won awards, y'know.


    http://www.stockton.gov.uk/pressoffice/localnews/year2005/april/biketoschool

    Quoted message said:


    "To mark Bike to School Week, the Road Safety Team are running their
    award winning Cycle Helmet campaign 'Timmy's Brains' for the week on
    Galaxy Radio and TFM Radio to help get the message of safer cycling
    across to thousands of listeners."

    Well, that should encourage children to participate in Bike to School
    Week - tell them they're likely to get their brains splattered over the
    road. It also seems that the Stockton "Road Safety Team" equate safe
    cycling with the single issue of wearing or not wearing a helmet. Have
    their brains been splattered already?

    --
    Dave...

  16. On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:00:48 +0100, audrey <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "To mark Bike to School Week, the Road Safety Team are running their
    award winning Cycle Helmet campaign 'Timmy's Brains' for the week on
    Galaxy Radio and TFM Radio to help get the message of safer cycling
    across to thousands of listeners."

    Oh dear. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if they had to pull it?

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  17. On 27 Apr 2005 06:29:53 -0700, "dkahn400" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    audrey said:

    But it must be good, it won awards, y'know.


    http://www.stockton.gov.uk/pressoffice/localnews/year2005/april/biketoschool

    Quoted message said:


    "To mark Bike to School Week, the Road Safety Team are running their
    award winning Cycle Helmet campaign 'Timmy's Brains' for the week on
    Galaxy Radio and TFM Radio to help get the message of safer cycling
    across to thousands of listeners."

    Well, that should encourage children to participate in Bike to School
    Week - tell them they're likely to get their brains splattered over the
    road. It also seems that the Stockton "Road Safety Team" equate safe
    cycling with the single issue of wearing or not wearing a helmet. Have
    their brains been splattered already?

    More Googling shows they originally used the ad in 2001.

    <http://www.stockton.gov.uk/pressoffice/localnews/year2001/november/70816?year=2001&month=11>

    Tim

  18. Just zis Guy said:

    On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:00:48 +0100, audrey <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "To mark Bike to School Week, the Road Safety Team are running their
    award winning Cycle Helmet campaign 'Timmy's Brains' for the week on
    Galaxy Radio and TFM Radio to help get the message of safer cycling
    across to thousands of listeners."

    Oh dear. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if they had to pull it?

    Unfortunately I think it's already run its course and the damage has
    been done. At least you might be able to stop them using it in future
    years, and at least "the bloke from Galaxy" will be a bit more
    circumspect next time someone wants to run a helmet campaign.

    --
    Dave...

  19. dkahn400 said:


    Unfortunately I think it's already run its course and the damage has
    been done. At least you might be able to stop them using it in future
    years, and at least "the bloke from Galaxy" will be a bit more
    circumspect next time someone wants to run a helmet campaign.

    You might manage to get a front page in the local paper though if the
    ASA uphold the complaint.

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

  20. Just zis Guy said:


    This I will do. In the mean time I have been given a transcript made
    by a listener. I did not think it could possibly be as crass as
    described. My mate Adam, who contacted the station before they got
    sniffy, was played a copy: yes, it genuinely is that crass.

    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/SBC_Complaint

    What I don't understand is why Danny wasn't protected by Timmy wearing
    his helmet [Crook & Fheik 2004]

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

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