Stop CODEX

Pauling/Rath published the 'unified theory of cardiovascular
disease.' Your point? Anth

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This article is a dense collection of lies and half-
truths. So is the rest of his website, where he promises
"natural" cures for all disease, but provides only
invective against medical doctors, and offers to sell
"manuals" describing his "therapies."

My favorite [censored] quote from him is, "Dr. Matthias Rath
worked with

Linus

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Pauling in the discovery of the root cause of heart
disease." This is

stated

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repeatedly on the website, usually with a mention of
Pauling's Nobel

prizes

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(which were NOT in nutritional or cardiology related
fields). What's silly about this is that there are MANY
diseases of the heart, all with

different

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"roots." Rath and Pauling made no such discovery. Had they
accomplished

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impossible feat, I'm sure another Nobel would have been
forthcoming.

--Rich

I also add perhaps Rich could write a better site? *oops*
but he hasn't. Anth

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Pauling/Rath published the 'unified theory of
cardiovascular disease.' Your point? Anth

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This article is a dense collection of lies and half-
truths. So is the

rest

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of his website, where he promises "natural" cures for
all disease, but provides only invective against medical
doctors, and offers to sell "manuals" describing his
"therapies."

My favorite [censored] quote from him is, "Dr. Matthias
Rath worked with

Linus

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Pauling in the discovery of the root cause of heart
disease." This is

stated

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repeatedly on the website, usually with a mention of
Pauling's Nobel

prizes

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(which were NOT in nutritional or cardiology related
fields). What's

silly

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about this is that there are MANY diseases of the heart,
all with

different

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"roots." Rath and Pauling made no such discovery. Had
they accomplished

this

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impossible feat, I'm sure another Nobel would have been
forthcoming.

--Rich

Actually if you want to be informed about how CODEX is being
used as a tool for the pharma cartels visit the Dr Rath
site, as for your other comment, I think it's all wind, you
have not demonstrated anything but being pedantic about the
phrase 'heart disease' out of context! If you want to put up
a site I'll take a pedantic look and drive you mad running
around in circles.... Anth

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I also add perhaps Rich could write a better site?
*oops* but he hasn't. Anth

Yes, I could write a better site. But I'm not marketing
any products, so

why

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should I? If you want the TRUTH about CODEX, look here:

codexalimentarius.netcodexalimentarius.netOpen ↗

Now THAT's a better site!

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Pauling/Rath published the 'unified theory of
cardiovascular disease.' Your point? Anth

Atherosclerosis Angina Atrial fibrillation Wolf-Parkinson-
White disease Congestive heart failure Coronary artery
disease Sick sinus syndrome Tetralogy of Fallot Acute
coronary syndrome Myocardial Infarction Mitral
regurgitation Rheumatic heart disease Cardiomyopathy
Endocarditis Bundle branch block And on...and on...and on
(These are just a few that I could remember off the top of
my head.)

Do you really think that these could be lumped together
under any "unified theory" and treated all the same with
vitamin C? They can't. That's my point.

--Rich

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Why do you do this Anth? Most of the time I mistake you for
a sane person. And then you go and post this link.....

BTW, three different root causes of heart disease are: 1,
diet - too many calories 2, smoking 3, genetic

Prevention of the first two are well known and promoted by
every doctor and government health department. Healthy diet
and give up smoking. These two measures will not make too
much money for the pharmacutical companies.

I am sure there are other root causes too.

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Doug

For me there's one cause of atherosclerosis, which is lack
of essential nutrients to repair the lesions in the artery.
I can assure you I am very sane. Anth

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cqs.comcodex.htmOpen ↗ Anth

Why do you do this Anth? Most of the time I mistake you
for a sane person. And then you go and post this link.....

BTW, three different root causes of heart disease are: 1,
diet - too many calories 2, smoking 3, genetic

Prevention of the first two are well known and promoted by
every doctor

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government health department. Healthy diet and give up
smoking. These two measures will not make too much money
for the pharmacutical companies.

I am sure there are other root causes too.

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Doug

Dr Rath documented reversal of plaques in people with heart
disease (atherosclerosis) The size of the plaques initially
were larger than the discrete sampling interval he used in
the scans, so it is unlikely that you would miss them with
subsequent scans unless they got smaller. After the
cocktail, at the end of the study (using half the sample
interval as initially) he had people which didn't show any
plaques - whereas initially they had plaques - thus proved
reversal of plaques in the patient. (Also the small study
took diet into account) Dr Rath has also documented complete
prevention of similar plaques in guinni pigs (who don't
produce vitamin c in their liver), in those taking the
vitamin cocktail. He took his pilot study and research to
the 'drug cartels big pharma' or whatever you want to call
it, and they ignored his work because there's no money in
it. CODEX is being used as a tool for 'big pharma' to block
supplements, as a measure to increase their profits (they
make a lot more money out of drugs than they do pushing
vitamins) That is tantamount to genocide in my books. Anyone
defending these guys is either stupid or has dubious motives
in my books. Hope this answers your questions and any points
raised. Anth

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Why do you do this Anth? Most of the time I mistake you
for a sane person. And then you go and post this link.....

BTW, three different root causes of heart disease are: 1,
diet - too many calories 2, smoking 3, genetic

Prevention of the first two are well known and promoted by
every doctor

and

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government health department. Healthy diet and give up
smoking. These two measures will not make too much money
for the pharmacutical companies.

I am sure there are other root causes too.

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Doug

Perhaps you would like to explain why and your reasoning
behind it? Anth

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For me there's one cause of atherosclerosis, which is
lack of essential nutrients to repair the lesions in the
artery.

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

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I can assure you I am very sane. Anth

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

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(Also for anyone who thinks Rath is just out to push his
vitamins he does free books which cost a considerable amount
of money to print and distribute) Anth

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Clearly your verbatim spews so much feces, it spills out in
your texts as well as dominating your dreams, along with
your anal sphincter sand pounding fetish's..... Anth

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For me there's one cause of atherosclerosis, which is
lack of essential nutrients to repair the lesions in the
artery.

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

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I can assure you I am very sane. Anth

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

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Like your belief in ASSupuncture? Anth

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Perhaps you would like to explain why and your reasoning
behind it? Anth

Well, for starters your view is based upon an
undereducated, unscientific, medically invalid viewpoint.
Your sole justification is your belief and

need

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to believe. Sadly, this is your only method of self-
empowerment.

Education,

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not denial, is the way to the truth.

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>For me there's one cause of atherosclerosis, which is
>lack of

essential

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>nutrients to repair the lesions in the artery.

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

>I can assure you I am very sane. Anth

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

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Perhaps you would like to explain why and your reasoning
behind it? Anth

Well, for starters your view is based upon an
undereducated, unscientific, medically invalid viewpoint.
Your sole justification is your belief and

need

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to believe. Sadly, this is your only method of self-
empowerment.

Education,

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not denial, is the way to the truth.

So, you, ilsa, cannot explain, and so you simply restate
your twisted , wrong , uninformed, uneducated, OPINION.
Tell me, are your hemorrhoids so bad that you can only be
an [censored]?

Likely because the margins on vitamin sales are so large,
and that the 'free books' are expensed as advertising.

Anth said:

(Also for anyone who thinks Rath is just out to push his
vitamins he does free books which cost a considerable
amount of money to print and distribute) Anth

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You don't have to buy his vitamins to get the books. Anth

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Likely because the margins on vitamin sales are so large,
and that the 'free books' are expensed as advertising.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:17:35 +0100, "Anth"
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(Also for anyone who thinks Rath is just out to push his
vitamins he does free books which cost a considerable
amount of money to print and distribute) Anth

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Take out the G'RBAGE [email hidden]

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Perhaps you would like to explain why and your reasoning
behind it? Anth

Well, for starters your view is based upon an
undereducated, unscientific, medically invalid
viewpoint. Your sole justification is your belief and
need to believe. Sadly, this is your only method of
self-empowerment. Education, not denial, is the way to
the truth.

To be more specific, it's based on the logical fallacy of
affirming the consequent:

If A then B Observe B Therefore, A

which in this case leads to an ideology that says that every
effect must have one and only one cause. This leads to the
specific error of assuming that if poor nutrition *can* lead
to atherosclerosis, than any case of atherosclerosis *must*
be due to poor nutrition.

Of course the advertising books/materials are given away
free. This fuels the sale of his brand of vitamins which
covers the expenses of printing the advertising.

Anth said:

You don't have to buy his vitamins to get the books. Anth

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Likely because the margins on vitamin sales are so large,
and that the 'free books' are expensed as advertising.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:17:35 +0100, "Anth"
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(Also for anyone who thinks Rath is just out to push his
vitamins he does free books which cost a considerable
amount of money to print and distribute) Anth

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Take out the G'RBAGE
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*yawn* Anth

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Clearly your verbatim spews so much feces, it spills out
in your texts as well as dominating your dreams, along
with your anal sphincter sand

pounding

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fetish's..... Anth

Dude, what's with all the feces, pounding, and anal
referential comments? Geez, it sounds like you can't
express yourself without poorly

paraphrasing,

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out of context, the words of someone else.

Believe whatever you want about atherosclerosis, cancer,
laetrile, mega-vit-a-min therapy, and vaccines. Just don't
be surprised when the

Bright

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kids tease you for being too dim to follow along.

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>For me there's one cause of atherosclerosis, which is
>lack of

essential

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>nutrients to repair the lesions in the artery.

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

>I can assure you I am very sane. Anth

Clearly, your lay opinion is in error.

Actually as demonstrated in the pilot study and by other
experiments. Anth

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Perhaps you would like to explain why and your reasoning
behind it? Anth

Well, for starters your view is based upon an
undereducated, unscientific, medically invalid
viewpoint. Your sole justification is your belief and
need to believe. Sadly, this is your only method of self-
empowerment. Education, not denial, is the way to the
truth.

To be more specific, it's based on the logical fallacy of
affirming the consequent:

If A then B Observe B Therefore, A

which in this case leads to an ideology that says that
every effect must have one and only one cause. This leads
to the specific error of assuming that if poor nutrition
*can* lead to atherosclerosis, than any case of
atherosclerosis *must* be due to poor nutrition.

Llsa seems to me all you do is parrot peoples rebuttals or
arguments and add them to your own arsenal? The anal sound
pounding was sourced from Andrew J Kingoff posts (which you
have demonstrated you are) Also your use of the work 'dude'
kind of hints to me that you are not female. Anth

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Clearly your verbatim spews so much feces, it spills out
in your texts as well as dominating your dreams, along
with your anal sphincter sand

pounding

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fetish's..... Anth

Dude, what's with all the feces, pounding, and anal
referential comments? Geez, it sounds like you can't
express yourself without poorly

paraphrasing,

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out of context, the words of someone else.

Believe whatever you want about atherosclerosis, cancer,
laetrile, mega-vit-a-min therapy, and vaccines. Just don't
be surprised when the

Bright

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kids tease you for being too dim to follow along.

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Why do you do this Anth? Most of the time I mistake you
for a sane person. And then you go and post this link.....

BTW, three different root causes of heart disease are: 1,
diet - too many calories

drlam.comvitamin C therOpen ↗
apy_in_cardiovascular_disease.cfm

Vitamin C intake neutralizes a high fat meal.

In a study conducted by Dr. Plotnick, University of Maryland
School of Medicine, 20 healthy men and women were fed on one
of the three breakfasts: -

(1) A high-fat meal consisting of an Egg McMuffin, Sausage
McMuffin, and two hash brown patties.

(2) A high-fat breakfast after the subjects were given 1,000
mg of vitamin C and 800 IU of vitamin E.

(3) A low-fat breakfast of cereal, skim milk, and
orange juice.

In this study, Dr Plotnick discovered that a single high-fat
meal increased blood triglyceride levels by more than 60
percent and decreased endothelial function by two to four
hours. The decrease in endothelial function also correlated
with an increase in triglyceride levels, but not with
fasting triglyceride levels. The researchers were also
pleased to note that taking vitamins C and E just before the
high-fat meal helped to maintain normal endothelial
functions. Surprisingly, the effects of the vitamin were the
same as eating the low-fat meal, which produced no increase
in triglycerides or decrease in endothelial function.

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2, smoking

4. Vitamin C helps to neutralize cigarette smoke

Cigarette smoking causes endothelial dysfunction.

A study using 20 smokers and non-smokers was conducted to
examine the effects of vitamin C and cigarette smoking on
endothelium-dependent vasodilation. The lumen diameter and
the velocity flow of the brachial arteries at rest were
measured during:

5. The reactive hyperemia following transient arterial
occlusion

6. After 0.3 mg of sublingal nitroglycerin with high-
resolution ultrasound.

7. After infusion of saline or saline plus vitamin C (10
mg/min for 20 min).

The same study was also performed in 15 smokers before and
10 minutes after cigarette smoking. Their serum levels of
vitamin C and plasma levels of thiobarbituric acid reactive
substances (TBARS) as an index of lipid peroxidation were
also measured. The results showed that the smokers had lower
vitamin C levels and higher TBARS levels. Their results also
showed the impairment of flow-dependent vasodilatation when
compared with non-smokers. When Vitamin C was given, it
improved the impairment of flow -dependent vasodilatation
and decreased TBARS in smokers. However, vitamin C
administration did not have any effects in the non-smokers.
The researchers also concluded that cigarette smoking
acutely worsened the impairment of flow-dependent
vasodilatation and increased TBARS. As such, researchers
conclude that:

(8) Endothelium-dependent vasodilatation in the brachial
arteries was impaired in smokers. When vitamin C was
given, there was a decrease in TBARS.

(9) Cigarette smoking produced acute impairment of endothelium-
dependent vasodilatation in smokers in association with
an increase in TBARS.

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3, genetic

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