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  1. i came upon a strobe rear tail light the other night,on a clanking
    single speed no less-loose guard maybe-
    and was impressed with the visual distinction, 300% more effective
    than the longbar cateye i use.
    zap zap zap. the light had threee points of white light insdie the
    intermittant red lens glow.
    where to buy? what is it? does it eat batteries?
    a boat gizmo? salty here.

  2. g.daniels said:


    i came upon a strobe rear tail light the other night,on a clanking
    single speed no less-loose guard maybe-
    and was impressed with the visual distinction, 300% more effective
    than the longbar cateye i use.
    zap zap zap. the light had threee points of white light insdie the
    intermittant red lens glow.
    where to buy? what is it? does it eat batteries?
    a boat gizmo? salty here.

    You can get an actual strobe (Lightman), which in white on a
    deserted country road at night gives you the impression that
    you're flying in a dark cloud, and the anti-collision strobe
    keeps illumating the ambience that follows you, sort of in side
    vision.

    I don't imagine it's a treat for following cars, though it's
    not a really huge bang-out bright strobe. A couple hours on 2 AA's.
    Visible in bright daylight, sort of; very visible otherwise.

    http://www.southwestpublicsafety.com/ligemstrobki.html

    (I don't know that the ``bicycle'' version is an actual strobe;
    might be LED's)

    I don't particularly like flashing taillights over steady ones,
    because they don't communcate effectively, just sort of add to
    visual noise in cluttered areas. You can make a case for a strobe
    at twilight though.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  3. Lightman sells different colored lenses for it's strobes. Red works for the
    rear.

    --
    Richard Amirault N1JDU
    Boston, MA, USA Go Fly A Kite
    "Ron Hardin" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    You can get an actual strobe (Lightman), which in white on a
    deserted country road at night gives you the impression that
    you're flying in a dark cloud, and the anti-collision strobe
    keeps illumating the ambience that follows you, sort of in side
    vision.

    I don't imagine it's a treat for following cars, though it's
    not a really huge bang-out bright strobe. A couple hours on 2 AA's.
    Visible in bright daylight, sort of; very visible otherwise.

    http://www.southwestpublicsafety.com/ligemstrobki.html

    (I don't know that the ``bicycle'' version is an actual strobe;
    might be LED's)

    I don't particularly like flashing taillights over steady ones,
    because they don't communcate effectively, just sort of add to
    visual noise in cluttered areas. You can make a case for a strobe
    at twilight though.

  4. "I don't particularly like flashing taillights over steady ones,
    because they don't communcate effectively, just sort of add to
    visual noise in cluttered areas."

    thnaks!!i'll move on it and add one to the two rearward cateyes.
    but maybe rethink the visual clutter-what would one do to seperate
    your butt from the golden arches? you can't go less? the SUV
    pillottee's agonna recognize your classic chinese scroll style rear
    light over jucy lucy??
    Law enforcement here in miami viceville op a really wonderful blue and
    red blinking roof bar colors activating genuine good feelings about
    christmass holiday cheers. Its wonderful. Cowbreath! get some for your
    writing area!!!
    but then someone added a gruesome yellow fever rooting flesh death
    yellow light bar side to side in the rear window: visible only close
    up off course: how's that for sophistication!!
    imagine five or six stobes on your cycle or clothing!!
    lock you up!! E.T.!!
    come to think of it next halloween...

  5. "I don't particularly like flashing taillights over steady ones,
    because they don't communcate effectively, just sort of add to
    visual noise in cluttered areas."

    thnaks!!i'll move on it and add one to the two rearward cateyes.
    but maybe rethink the visual clutter-what would one do to seperate
    your butt from the golden arches? you can't go less? the SUV
    pillottee's agonna recognize your classic chinese scroll style rear
    light over jucy lucy??
    Law enforcement here in miami viceville op a really wonderful blue and
    red blinking roof bar colors activating genuine good feelings about
    christmass holiday cheers. Its wonderful. Cowbreath! get some for your
    writing area!!!
    but then someone added a gruesome yellow fever rooting flesh death
    yellow light bar side to side in the rear window: visible only close
    up off course: how's that for sophistication!!
    imagine five or six stobes on your cycle or clothing!!
    lock you up!! E.T.!!
    come to think of it next halloween...

  6. search to:
    http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-48402

  7. the problem with attempting a frontal ID with the amber Photon blinky
    was speed-the photon is outstanding on 25-35mph suburban streets
    but i have a 3.5 mile oncoming 2 lane with a 3' bike lane now at
    twilight.
    the blinky hasn't the punch to cut into 60 mph SUV nervous systems
    heading home to a fatmeal
    but visualize the amber strobe: hehehehe!
    off course, an autoform may chose to destrobe once the ID gets around
    in 5 or ten minutes.

    this brings into play another light fact-

    following thanksgiving, i have one aggressive
    incident per day: is this common?

  8. "g.daniels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    following thanksgiving, i have one aggressive
    incident per day: is this common?

    Must be the tryptophan wearing off.
    -tom

  9. I think the Lightmans are very good but the battery life is unacceptable. LEDs will blink, I would guesstimate, 10-15 times longer. Still, anything -- !! anything!! -- to call attention to yourself. I am also a motorcyclist and it's well settled that by far the primary cause of accidents with cars is that the driver simply didn't see the guy on two wheels.

  10. davidd86 said:

    I think the Lightmans are very good but the battery life is unacceptable. LEDs will blink, I would guesstimate, 10-15 times longer. Still, anything -- !! anything!! -- to call attention to yourself. I am also a motorcyclist and it's well settled that by far the primary cause of accidents with cars is that the driver simply didn't see the guy on two wheels.

    Completely correct! The only accident I had with a car was caused he didn't see me. They just aren't paying attention to things other than cars and people. Any form or amount of lights is more than fine with me!

  11. Quoted message said:

    imagine five or six stobes on your cycle or clothing!!

    I recall reading on the internet someone describing a commuter in his
    city using a half dozen or so red rear blinking lights on his bicycle.
    This person was very noticeable because of the multiple blinking
    lights. For being seen at dusk or at night, I would definitely
    recommend multiple blinking lights to the rear, side, and front.

    The NiteRider red rear light is the brightest I've seen. It costs $60
    and requires a NiteRider setup. The Vistalite Eclipse is pretty
    close. It costs $15 on sale. I use three Eclipse lights when riding
    at night on streets or roads. Four or five would be better still.
    And a few front white or yellow blinking lights too.

  12. On 1 Dec 2004 08:04:25 -0800, [email hidden] (Russell

    Seaton) said:
    Quoted message said:

    imagine five or six stobes on your cycle or clothing!!

    I recall reading on the internet someone describing a commuter in his
    city using a half dozen or so red rear blinking lights on his bicycle.
    This person was very noticeable because of the multiple blinking
    lights. For being seen at dusk or at night, I would definitely
    recommend multiple blinking lights to the rear, side, and front.

    I suspect the best part of having multiple blinking lights is the
    likelihood that the batteries won't all run out at the same time.

    Unless you're an ambulance.

    Most cop cars do pretty well with one or two flashers.

    Pat
    Email address works as is.

  13. Patrick Lamb <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 1 Dec 2004 08:04:25 -0800, [email hidden] (Russell

    Seaton) said:
    Quoted message said:

    imagine five or six stobes on your cycle or clothing!!

    I recall reading on the internet someone describing a commuter in his
    city using a half dozen or so red rear blinking lights on his bicycle.
    This person was very noticeable because of the multiple blinking
    lights. For being seen at dusk or at night, I would definitely
    recommend multiple blinking lights to the rear, side, and front.

    I suspect the best part of having multiple blinking lights is the
    likelihood that the batteries won't all run out at the same time.

    Unless you're an ambulance.

    Most cop cars do pretty well with one or two flashers.

    Pat
    Email address works as is.

    A very poor analogy. Cop cars have a very loud siren. And their
    blinking and revolving lights are mounted quite high. And are very
    large. And they have 3 or 4 of them in the light bar. I suspect if
    you mounted a police car light, or two, or three at your head height
    on a bicycle, you would be seen quite well. And add a loud siren too.
    Or you could put multiple blinking rear red lights on your bicycle,
    rear and side, and have them blinking out of sync with one another.

    I've never run a battery dead on a LED red blinking light. They claim
    to last hundreds of hours in blinking mode. I think the fear of
    running the battery dead is pretty minimal.

  14. home depot has a cateye-like flashlight with red blinker for xmas
    sales at $10.
    I assume the red circuit is routable to the white circuit.
    bringing the question: are blinky led's made differently than white
    bright led's?
    the white flashlight with an amber or led lensplus flasher is a
    winner.
    get the lens material from the autoform's "junkyard"-old fords and
    Volvo's have adequate flat lens area.

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