Stronglight Impact Crank (compatibility)

I own one of these cranks. I don't know if this will help, but I have
it mounted on a standard Shimano un72 square taper bb. I do not know
about whether or not it is 10 speed compatible.

Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact

crank

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50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

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I own one of these cranks. I don't know if this will help, but I have
it mounted on a standard Shimano un72 square taper bb. I do not know
about whether or not it is 10 speed compatible.

Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact

crank

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50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Thanks, how do you like the crank, the 50/36? All I been riding with is a
53/39 and before that the older 52/52 combination. I worked out the gear
calculation for a 39/27 and a 36/27, and there only seems to be gear inch
change of 3.0 or a gear ratio change of .2
-tom

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I own one of these cranks. I don't know if this will help, but I have
it mounted on a standard Shimano un72 square taper bb. I do not know
about whether or not it is 10 speed compatible.

Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact

crank

Quoted message said:

50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Thanks, how do you like the crank, the 50/36? All I been riding with is a
53/39 and before that the older 52/52 combination. I worked out the gear
calculation for a 39/27 and a 36/27, and there only seems to be gear inch
change of 3.0 or a gear ratio change of .2
-tom

sorry 52/42, not 52/52.
-tom

Tom Nakashima said:

Also if the taper of the Stronglight [Impact] Crank will fit the
square taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?

I mounted this crank on a Shimano bottom bracket with JIS square taper
and it fits fine. As far as I can tell it is not French made and does
not show the ISO taper typical for Campagnolo or other European cranks.
110mm for the spindle length works nicely on my old steel frame.

Guenther

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Tom Nakashima said:

Also if the taper of the Stronglight [Impact] Crank will fit the
square taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?

I mounted this crank on a Shimano bottom bracket with JIS square taper
and it fits fine. As far as I can tell it is not French made and does
not show the ISO taper typical for Campagnolo or other European cranks.
110mm for the spindle length works nicely on my old steel frame.

Guenther

Thanks Guenther,
-tom

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I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the square
taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?

The Miche Primato GranTour Compact uses ISO taper and uses the standard
102mm Campagnolo Record/Chorus BB size. It almost has the same q-factor
as Record/Chorus doubles also (2-3mm wider for the Miche). It comes with
50/34 chainrings and 102mm Miche BB, very nice finish. Weight of crankset is
664 grams and BB is 218 grams (on par with Chorus).

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I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the square
taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

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I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Shimano 110 bb and yes to 10 speed compatible.

IMPACT COMPACT
Length = 165 170 172.5 175 mm
Crank extractor integrated
Colors : black chainring with silver cranks
Combinaisons : 50/36 & 48/34
Preconised axle = jp 400 en lg 110 mm
INdexation CSA 9/10 speed
Weight = 630 grs

If you're looking for an alternative to 53/39 gearing I would think you
should go 48/34. For me, with a 48/12 and a 12-25 in back I can climb steep
hills all day. The only place I ever need greater than a 48-12 is on very
fast group rides, and even then it's only towards the end of the ride on a
long slight downhill where it becomes hard to keep up such a high cadence.

Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the square
taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Yes it is w/o problem.

The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper that is
larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and look to
see how far it is on.

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Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Yes it is w/o problem.

The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper that is
larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and look to
see how far it is on.

Thanks Peter,
This way my only cash flow will be for the crank, as I will use the existing
BB.
-tom

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Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank

(compact crank

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50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo

10

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drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit

the

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square

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taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Yes it is w/o problem.

The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper that is
larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and look

to

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see how far it is on.

Thanks Peter,
This way my only cash flow will be for the crank, as I will use the

existing

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BB.
-tom

You're worrying about the cash flow on a $10 to $17 bottom bracket?
Nashbar sells square taper bottom brackets ranging from its own brand
for $10 all the way up to $17 for the Shimano UN72. I doubt your much
more expensive new crankset will be harmed by driving it onto a
different taper bottom bracket. But why would you even take the chance
when a pittance wouod get you the correct bottom bracket.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1096&category=73&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
> I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank

(compact crank

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> 50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo

10

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> drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit

the

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square

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> taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
> thanks,
> -tom
>
>

Yes it is w/o problem.

The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper that is
larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and look

to

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see how far it is on.

Thanks Peter,
This way my only cash flow will be for the crank, as I will use the

existing

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BB.
-tom

You're worrying about the cash flow on a $10 to $17 bottom bracket?
Nashbar sells square taper bottom brackets ranging from its own brand
for $10 all the way up to $17 for the Shimano UN72. I doubt your much
more expensive new crankset will be harmed by driving it onto a
different taper bottom bracket. But why would you even take the chance
when a pittance wouod get you the correct bottom bracket.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1096&category=73&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

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You got your budget, I got mine.
If Peter says my existing BB will work, then I trust him...this is what
makes the RBT site work.
I asked a specific question and Peter answered it.
If you did your homework, the Campagnolo ball bearing bb that I have will
outlast any Nashbar, or Shimano sealed bb, so you will end up in the long
run paying more.
I have a Campagnolo BB ball bearing on one of my bikes that's going on 20
years, and that's not bike that sits. Some of these sealed bb's don't even
last a year.

I also support my LBS. Nothing against Nashbar other than they clutter my
mailbox.
-tom

If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be
happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.htm:

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RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never

installed on

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bikes but they are not in the box.

I guess you will need to find a cheap 50t. Should be easy to find at
the upcoming swap meets.

dkl

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> Tom Nakashima wrote:
> > I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank

(compact crank

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> > 50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the

Campagnolo

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10

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> > drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will

fit

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the

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square
> > taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
> > thanks,
> > -tom
> >
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> Yes it is w/o problem.
>
> The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper

that is

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> larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
> tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and

look

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to

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> see how far it is on.

Thanks Peter,
This way my only cash flow will be for the crank, as I will use

the

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existing

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BB.
-tom

You're worrying about the cash flow on a $10 to $17 bottom bracket?
Nashbar sells square taper bottom brackets ranging from its own

brand

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for $10 all the way up to $17 for the Shimano UN72. I doubt your

much

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more expensive new crankset will be harmed by driving it onto a
different taper bottom bracket. But why would you even take the

chance

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when a pittance wouod get you the correct bottom bracket.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1096&category=73&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

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You got your budget, I got mine.
If Peter says my existing BB will work, then I trust him...this is

what

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makes the RBT site work.
I asked a specific question and Peter answered it.
If you did your homework, the Campagnolo ball bearing bb that I have

will

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outlast any Nashbar, or Shimano sealed bb, so you will end up in the

long

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run paying more.
I have a Campagnolo BB ball bearing on one of my bikes that's going

on 20

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years, and that's not bike that sits. Some of these sealed bb's

don't even

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last a year.

I also support my LBS. Nothing against Nashbar other than they

clutter my

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mailbox.
-tom

d states:

<If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be
happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.­htm:

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RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never

installed on

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bikes but they are not in the box. >

FYI, I was there last year and bought the LAST ONE! They really need
to update that website.

I'm trying out the crank to see whether I like a "compact" crank. So
far, I like the 36t as it helps lower the gears for climbing. I'll
probably look for a 48t big chainring as I spin out in the 46t;
although its good for rollers.

bfd said:

d states:

<If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be
happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.­htm:

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RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never

installed on

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bikes but they are not in the box. >

FYI, I was there last year and bought the LAST ONE! They really need
to update that website.

Basterds! Well thanks for the heads-up. You saved me half of April
3rd since I guess I won't shlep up to their swapmeet now.

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I'm trying out the crank to see whether I like a "compact" crank. So
far, I like the 36t as it helps lower the gears for climbing. I'll
probably look for a 48t big chainring as I spin out in the 46t;
although its good for rollers.

If you decide you don't like it I'd like to give it a try - thanks
again.

Doug

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I own one of these cranks. I don't know if this will help, but I have
it mounted on a standard Shimano un72 square taper bb. I do not know
about whether or not it is 10 speed compatible.

Tom Nakashima said:

I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact

crank

Quoted message said:

50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the

square

Quoted message said:

taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom

Thanks, how do you like the crank, the 50/36? All I been riding with is a
53/39 and before that the older 52/52 combination. I worked out the gear
calculation for a 39/27 and a 36/27, and there only seems to be gear inch
change of 3.0 or a gear ratio change of .2

_ Do it as percentages or speed at rpm and it will look like more
of a change[1]. Gear inches are not a very intiutive measure.
It's 6.4 mph vs 7 mph at 60rpm, or roughly 10% easier.

Personally, I like either a 50/34 or 52/36, the front shifting
is still good enough and you get a wider range of gears.

_ Booker C. Bense

[1]- http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/

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Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

Andrew Karre

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Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

Agree, shimano un-5x and 7x are fantastic bbs. However, how much better are
those 110/74 Deore over say Sugino XD-600 110/74 triple crank, like this one
here:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/cranx2

The above crank is a fantastic deal and can be found for as low as $70!

Andrew Karre said:

Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

Then there's the freewheel issue...Shimano's new design freewheel has
given new life to the obsolete thread on system. It's dirt cheap and
notably superior to all previous thread-on freewheels.

In addition to the Alpine 11-34, they have just come out with an 11-28
variant on the same wonderful body.

http://sheldonbrown.com/mega7

It is surprising that the company that made the cassette Freehub into
the de facto standard is _also_ the only company making really good
traditonal freewheels.

Sheldon "Shimano Rules!" Brown
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Andrew Karre said:

Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

Spend a little more for the Shimano bottom brackets that start with
"UN" and avoid those that start with "LP".

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Illinois)