sugar free foods

Risa...

As a gerontologist, you should also be aware that "sugar-
free" is not our goal.

It's correct carb consumption... all carbs, not just sugar.

There is no moderator to this group, but it's not really the
forum for recipes.

There are three diabetic newsgroups that have the most
traffic. While there is cross over in content, they
basically break down thusly:

misc. health.diabetes - a forum for the nuts and bolts
science and control of our disease alt.support.diabetes - a
more "personal" forum for coaching, venting and sorting
through how we cope with our disease alt. food. diabetes - a
recipe, cooking forum. The perfect place for your post

Tell us, do you work for the website you've posted? Are you
a diabetic?

Jennifer

Risa Levovsky said:

I am new to this group.

As a gerontologist, I enjoy sharing my expertise in issues
related to aging with people throughout the world. In my
research, I have found that people with diabetes are often
non compliant because they get bored with the standard
diabetic diet and want to revert back recipes that seem
more appealing.

It is no secret that Diabetics need carefully controlled,
well- balanced meals. But that doesn't mean they have to
be limited to the same dull thing over and over. With a
little effort and creativity, meals can be fun,
nutritious, and delicious.With the permission of the
moderator, I'd like to share some delicious sugar-free
foods with the group.

Happy eating!

Risa

Diabetic Pasta Salad Corkscrew pasta 4 fresh mushrooms,
sliced 1 cucumber, sliced Kraft reduced calorie zesty
Italian dressing1 onion, sliced 1 tomato, diced 1 green
pepper, chopped

Cook and rinse pasta in cold water. Mix with remaining
ingredients and marinate in dressing. Chill and serve.

Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the pasta and
you have a better meal.

Oh, and commercial posts are against the charter of almost
all newsgroups and can result in you having your email
account pulled. Have a nice day.

On 12 Jun 2004 17:07:30 -0700, [email hidden] (Risa Levovsky)

Quoted message said:

I am new to this group.

As a gerontologist, I enjoy sharing my expertise in issues
related to aging with people throughout the world. In my
research, I have found that people with diabetes are often
non compliant because they get bored with the standard
diabetic diet and want to revert back recipes that seem
more appealing.

It is no secret that Diabetics need carefully controlled,
well- balanced meals. But that doesn't mean they have to be
limited to the same dull thing over and over. With a little
effort and creativity, meals can be fun, nutritious, and
delicious.With the permission of the moderator, I'd like to
share some delicious sugar-free foods with the group.

Happy eating!

Risa

Diabetic Pasta Salad Corkscrew pasta 4 fresh mushrooms,
sliced 1 cucumber, sliced Kraft reduced calorie zesty
Italian dressing1 onion, sliced 1 tomato, diced 1 green
pepper, chopped

Cook and rinse pasta in cold water. Mix with remaining
ingredients and marinate in dressing. Chill and serve.

For more sugar- free foods, you can find great recipes at
www.makemelotsofmoney.com

It's Spam. Go away.

Who cares if the pasta is sugar-free? It's still bloody
starch! Not to mention the probable carbs in that "Kraft
reduced calorie zesty Italian dressing".

God (any god!) help me if I ever end up in a nursing home
run by a gerontologist with this level of knowledge of Type
2 diabetes.

You should be charged with poisoning your patients. If, of
course, you actually are a gerontologist.

Bye.

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
carbs to email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

"Risa Levovsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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I am new to this group.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

For more sugar- free foods, you can find great recipes at

<snip>

And you're obviously either not diabetic and/or just
misinformed. Sugar isn't the culprit here, it's carbs. Yes,
sugar is a carb. But so is pasta. There is no reason a
diabetic would have to eat boring bland foods unless that
was his or her choice. Most of us eat regular old foods like
like everyone else.

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On 12 Jun 2004 17:07:30 -0700, [email hidden] (Risa Levovsky)

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I am new to this group.

this was in fact a commercial post.

58 posts in this thread so far and the OP only posted once
to provide the link to it's commercial website.

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Ozgirl wrote in misc.health.diabetes:

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Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the pasta and
you have a better meal.

I react very normal to carbohydrates. After the take-in, my
short-acting insulin will take care of them. But not
everyone is T1 diabetic. I think you mean T2 diabetics on
meds or on fixed insulin regimes react badly to carbs,
because it raises their after-dinner BG's too high.

Quoted message said:

Oh, and commercial posts are against the charter of almost
all newsgroups and can result in you having your email
account pulled.

Right.

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Have a nice day.

Spammers don't deserve nice days. They deserve spam
themselves. Spam for breakfast, spam for lunch and spam for
dinner. And if they don't eat enough and need in between
snack: spam. Right.

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Stop it anyway."

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:35:19 +1000, Ozgirl ("Ozgirl"😉 writes:

Ozgirl> Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the
Ozgirl> pasta and you have a better meal.

That's generally true about carbs and pasta, in a very simple-
minded sort of way, but in my experience, medical
professionals usually give different advice, saying that
pasta may be an acceptable food for diabetics. They
specifically advise against "low carbing" in the sense of
the controversial diets that are now popular, and specify
that some amount of complex carbohydrates (which might be
from pasta) are a necessary part of a healthy diabetic diet.
Although anyone can easily see that nutrution and diets
remains a poorly understood area of controversy, nothing is
really as simple as "You can't eat that!". "No pasta" is
just as idiotic as the old advice: "Don't eat sugar!".

Ozgirl> Oh, and commercial posts are against the charter of
Ozgirl> almost all newsgroups and can result in you having
Ozgirl> your email account pulled. Have a nice day.

That depends entirely on the contract that you have with
your own Internet Service Provider, and nobody else. Only
your ISP can determine whether you have breached your
contract by violating the terms of service that you agreed
to. It has nothing to do with random third parties,
apparently with mental issues, imagining themselves to be
some kind of Internet Police and deciding that they will
interpret a newsgroup's charter, screen other people's
messages for content, decide who is an appropriate author,
or try to intimidate people with ridiculous veiled threats
of getting someone's Internet service cancelled. Such people
are cranks.

But then, newsgroups are a pretty poor quality place to get
reliable information about anything, whether it be about
diabetes, how the Internet works, or legal advice.

"Ozgirl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the pasta and
you have a better meal.

[censored]! Why not say diabetics ride red unicycles? It would
just as true.

SOME diabetics react badly to TOO MUCH carbohydrate, others,
using meds, consume a fairly normal and accepted amount of
carbohydrate. Get your facts right.

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Oh, and commercial posts are against the charter of almost
all newsgroups and can result in you having your email
account pulled.

You pompous little pedant!

Aside from the fact that the charter is a guide only, not
enforceable, her post was NOT commercial, she asked for
no money and gave a link to a commercial site that has
FREE recipes. Where is the commercialism you slow witted
little prat?

As for cancelling accounts, you are clueless and dreaming.
No ISP will pull an account for that, they will just call
you an idiot and delete your complaint if you bother to send
it. Learn a little about how things really work. If ISPs
cancelled accounts because of [censored] like you, within a
few weeks there would be no usenet left.

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Have a nice day.

Have a miserable day, you pathetic little netkop.

smicker

"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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God (any god!) help me if I ever end up in a nursing home
run by a gerontologist with this level of knowledge of
Type 2 diabetes.

<snip>

My mother in law is in a nursing home. Whenever I bring her
a present, I try to bring a small present for her room mate
as well. I ususally bring the room mate candy because I
know she likes it. Then one day when we were visiting, the
room mate was eating dinner. A nurse came in and gave her
an injection in her leg, stating, "Your sugar is a little
high today!" The room mate is in her 90's and no longer
converses very well. She had one of her younger relatives
visiting at the time. I asked the relative if she was
diabetic. She said "Yes". I then apologized for having
brought the candy on so many occasions, adding that I too
was diabetic and would have brought her something else, had
I known! The relative then told me it was okay because they
just let her eat whatever she wanted to anyway. That just
floored me! I could tell there was some sort of attempt
being made because I did see cans and bottles of diet soda
there by her bedside each time I visited. But her meals
didn't seem like what a diabetic should have. She always
had dessert, and some sort of fruit like applesauce, in
addition to other starches like bread, rice and pasta.
Small portions perhaps, but many more carbs on one tray
that I could ever handle and I'm not a low carber!

Another time, we wheeled my mother in law into another
person's room. We'd brought her a package of assorted small
gifts and she was passing them out to various people. She
attempted to give some candy to one lady and she shook her
head, stating that for some reason she wasn't allowed to
have it. She said they never told her why she couldn't have
it, just that she couldn't have it!

I realize that not everyone in that nursing home has all
their faculties about them, and also that not all nursing
homes are the same. But it scares me to think that so many
of the people in there have no clue about their various
medical conditions. And that includes my mother in law! Last
time we were there, we insisted she see a Dr. because her
feet and legs were badly swollen. So swollen that it was
obvious and they'd been like at our last visit too. We
mentioned it before and nothing had been done about it.
Since we live in another state, we don't see her that often.

On a prior occasion, she nearly choked to death because they
had given her the wrong food. She has a medical condition
that causes her to choke easily and all her food must be
soft or finely minced. This time they had given her a normal
diet. Luckily, some other relatives found her gasping for
breath and got her some medical help. The staff didn't even
seem to notice that anything was wrong!

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:04:24 +1000, "Ozgirl" <[email hidden]>

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Clueless?

Yes, clueless.

Quoted message said:

I've had the pleasure of having more commercial posters
accounts pulled than you have probably had hot dinners.

And full of [censored].

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Sorry babe, you picked the wrong person to give your spiel
to this time.

I never pick the wrong person, but sometimes they pick me.
Usenet isn't all that different to real life. You say
something stupid and someone is likely to come right back
and point out that fact. You say something stupid about
carbs and diabetics, and then you make veiled threats to a
poster who was simply being friendly, bullying and
insinuating that she could lose her account if you were to
complain. You are an [censored]. You are a stupid [censored].

Quoted message said:

ISP's frown upon customers who spam newsgroups with
commercial posts. End of story.

Yes and it would behove you to learn the legal definition of
spam. There was no spam involved.

Quoted message said:

ISP's have more than enough customers without worrying
about any fallout they may receive from pulling a spammers
account.

A genuine spammer's account, yes, an account that some
stupid [censored] CLAIMS is spam, no way. Once again, learn
what spam is considered to be in LAW. If my ISP shut me down
on a complaint that didn't stand up, I would sue the [censored]
off them, as would many other people. It used to be pretty
easy to get someone's account pulled, not anymore, not since
most countries have introduced laws that among other things,
DEFINE spam. They won't pull an account just because you
don't like what I post or the manner in which I post it. GET
USED TO THE IDEA!

Quoted message said:

After all the people they spam are their own customers.
Just because you have survived countless complaints for
being a usenet *[censored]* doesn't mean your ISP doesn't
pull accounts for *commercial* spamming.

If I commercially spammed, they would have to. I said in my
original post that you would have to [censored] your own ISP
to get your account pulled. That would be one good way of
doing it. Don't read posts before making your idiotic
[censored] responses?

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Apparently being an [censored] doesn't matter too much, but
commercial posts ... whole different kettle of fish.

There have been no commercial posts you stupid, stupid
woman, and you trying to claim there have been just shows
how clueless you are, and even if there had been commercial
posts, it does not make them spam.

Spamming is sending unsolicited email, it has nothing to do
with content, it has to with the number of copies sent out
and the fact that they are unsolicited. It does not have to
be commercial, political, religious, opinion, etc., are spam
if they meet the criteria.

When applied to newsgroups, there is no law, but one post,
containing

SPAM you mindless twit. It doesn't even breach the newsgroup
regs, it wasn't commercial, it was a pointer to potentially
useful FREE recipes on a commercial site.

If I decided to send these newsgroups five hundred posts per
day, all with nothing but links to commercial web sites, it
would not be spam. It would just be me pissing you off. I
would not be in breach of my TOS as long as each post was
different and I didn't exceed twenty-five posts per hour.
Wanna try it and see? I have done it many times. I know
exactly what I can do and what I can't, which is a damn
sight more than you know.

spam generator.

GET SOME CLUES !!!

smicker

Alan said:

On 13 Jun 2004 21:55:56 -0700, [email hidden]

(Smicker) said:

I am not a troll, I am someone who can't stand [censored], I
see no reason to be polite to someone who shows signs of
stupidity, I see

no

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reason to pretend to be anything, or to feel anything but
the truth.

I

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can see how that pisses many of you off with the way you
treat Ted.

He

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is blunt speaking too.

This is usenet, and I am a very active part of it.
Political

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smicker

As arrogance and egomania do to acceptable social
behaviour.

Did you always have this overwhelming need to be noticed;
to assert yourself profanely and unsuitably for fear of
being ignored?

Nope, I had an overwhelming need to be honest, to avoid
pretension, to call a spade a spade and to stand up for
myself and what I believe in. Profanity is a part of modern
language, even the courts accept it. I live and work among
people who use this language all the time. Upper class/upper
middle class. Outrage or indignation at profanity is very
working class. I come from a working class background. My
mother is horrified by it, my father swears in the pub,
wouldn't dream of it at home.

I find PC fawning to be profane. Forever telling or agreeing
with someone that everything is ok, that it is not their own
fault is about as sick and unintelligent as a human can get.
Most of the time, whatever happens to you or with you IS
YOUR OWN FAULT. People who can't or won't accept that are
going nowhere, they are life's losers.

If you are fat, then with very few exceptions it is your
fault . Fat people are lazy, or they would do something
about being fat. I do not believe that any fat person
chooses to be fat, why the hell do they buy every sucker
pill and potion to lose weight, while regarding gymnasiums
much the way the Christians regarded the lions? If there was
an EASY way, they would all jump on it. They all know there
is a way that works, exercise, but is not easy, so being
lazy, they stay fat and miserable. Not being prepared to do
something just because it takes effort is as good a
definition of lazy as I can find.

What I say is true. It is not nice, it is not PC, but it is
absolutely true and if you dump the PC [censored], unless you
have an intellectual problem, you have to agree.

smicker

virginity.

Julie Bove said:

"Smicker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Sheeez! Don't ANY of you people read posts. I said, very
plainly,

in

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my original post on the subject, that you had to [censored]
your own

ISP

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to lose an account, not have someone [censored] about pissing
newsgroup readers off. Breaching your ISP's TOS would of
course [censored] them

off. I

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have yet to see a TOS that insisted on not offending
readers of a newsgroup. It would inhibit free speech and
be in breach of many country's discrimination laws.

In case you hadn't noticed, there IS no free speech on
the Internet

when it

Quoted message said:

comes to many ISP's. The one I had in Cape Cod
routinely closed

people's

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accounts for putting up websites that they thought were
questionable.

We aren't talking about web sites, just newsgroups. Don't
try to change the subject.

And

Quoted message said:

the issue we were talking about was not "pissing people
off", but

commercial

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posts. And that IS one definition of spam. Also a
violation of most

TOS,

Quoted message said:

and certainly a violation of the charter of this NG.
If posted

through

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Google and reported, THEY will close down the account.

A commercial post isn't necessarily spam, it may be a lot of
other things, not necessarily spam simply because it is
commercial. Spam has a clear definition. Don't you thing
that you learned what it was rather than trying to use it as
generic term to cover anything you don't like on usenet?

Quoted message said:

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I do not breach my ISP's very few, and very clear TOS
conditions. I often ignore newsgroup charters. Can you
understand the difference?

If

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I post a single message, recommending a commercial
product on any newsgroup, I am NOT breaching my TOS. In
fact I would have to place more than 25 per hour, that
they would consider commercial posting.

If you ignore the NG charter, then you have only
yourself to blame

for any

Quoted message said:

repercussions you get because of it.

There won't be any.

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I see that you are posting through Google.

Are you absolutely sure? 😉

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You'd be breaching their TOS if you make commerical
posts. Now if there is a long time poster who has already
established themself as a diabetic and not a troll or
spammer, they can likely recommend a

product

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they've used and will get no flack about it. When a
first time

poster comes

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here with a commercial post, they are always suspect.

So who cares if some twit regards a post as suspect? Not me.

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You have made far more offensive posts than I care to read
and you're

coming

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really close to earning a spot in my kill-file.

Is it a comfortable kill file? Is it airconditioned? Will I
find friends in there?

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You said in another post that you had your own reasons for
coming here. As far as I can see,

those

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reasons have nothing to do with diabetes.

As far as you can apparently see, reason has little to do
with it. Type II diabetes is for the most part caused by
excessive weight. Recognition of responsibility for gaining
excessive weight has a great deal to do with diabetes.
Obscuring the facts and denying responsibility is one very
big factor in people's inability to deal effectively with
diabetes. Support, of a PC nature, exacerbates the problem
and although blunt talking might not fix things, it might
possibly get some fat diabetics to stand in front of a
mirror and say "Ahhh. THERE's the problem!"

I am sick of hearing fat women say that they are big boned,
or that the weight height charts are really totally
inaccurate, or they have a metabolism problem, they retain
water, or worst of all, THEY EAT LIKE A BIRD!

Not unless it was a starving vulture, then maybe they are
being honest..

smicker

virginity.

CeeBee said:

Ozgirl wrote in misc.health.diabetes:

Quoted message said:

Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the pasta and
you have a better meal.

I react very normal to carbohydrates. After the take-in,

my

Quoted message said:

short-acting insulin will take care of them. But not

everyone is T1

Quoted message said:

diabetic. I think you mean T2 diabetics on meds or on

fixed insulin

Quoted message said:

regimes react badly to carbs, because it raises their

after-dinner

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BG's too high.

Yes

Christopher C. Stacy said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:35:19 +1000, Ozgirl

('Ozgirl') said:

Ozgirl> Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the
Ozgirl> pasta and you have a better meal.

That's generally true about carbs and pasta, in a very

simple-minded

Quoted message said:

sort of way, but in my experience, medical professionals

usually give

Quoted message said:

different advice, saying that pasta may be an acceptable

food for

Quoted message said:

diabetics. They specifically advise against "low carbing"

in the

Quoted message said:

sense of the controversial diets that are now popular, and

specify

Quoted message said:

that some amount of complex carbohydrates (which might be

from pasta)

Quoted message said:

are a necessary part of a healthy diabetic diet. Although

anyone can

Quoted message said:

easily see that nutrution and diets remains a poorly

understood area

Quoted message said:

of controversy, nothing is really as simple as "You can't

eat that!".

Quoted message said:

"No pasta" is just as idiotic as the old advice: "Don't

eat sugar!".

Whatever.

Quoted message said:

But then, newsgroups are a pretty poor quality place to

get

Quoted message said:

reliable information about anything, whether it be about

diabetes,

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how the Internet works, or legal advice.

Again, whatever.

well Mr Know it all...... what are you here for then???

obviously a newsgroups charter is a new concept for you??
the charter of this newsgroup specifically bans commercial
messages here

and your response is????????

all ears kate

"Christopher C. Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That's generally true about carbs and pasta, in a very simple-
minded sort of way, but in my experience, medical
professionals usually give different advice, saying that
pasta may be an acceptable food for diabetics. They
specifically advise against "low carbing" in the sense of
the controversial diets that are now popular, and specify
that some amount of complex carbohydrates (which might be
from pasta) are a necessary part of a healthy diabetic
diet. Although anyone can easily see that nutrution and
diets remains a poorly understood area of controversy,
nothing is really as simple as "You can't eat that!". "No
pasta" is just as idiotic as the old advice: "Don't eat
sugar!".

Quoted message said:

That depends entirely on the contract that you have with
your own Internet Service Provider, and nobody else. Only
your ISP can determine whether you have breached your
contract by violating the terms of service that you agreed
to. It has nothing to do with random third parties,
apparently with mental issues, imagining themselves to be
some kind of Internet Police and deciding that they will
interpret a newsgroup's charter, screen other people's
messages for content, decide who is an appropriate author,
or try to intimidate people with ridiculous veiled threats
of getting someone's Internet service cancelled. Such
people are cranks.

But then, newsgroups are a pretty poor quality place to
get reliable information about anything, whether it be
about diabetes, how the Internet works, or legal advice.

In article <[email hidden]>,

CeeBee said:

Ozgirl wrote in misc.health.diabetes:

Quoted message said:

Diabetics react badly to carbohydrates, nix the pasta
and you have a better meal.

I react very normal to carbohydrates.

Really? Without injecting insulin you process carbohydrates
like a non-diabetic?

Quoted message said:

After the take-in, my short-acting insulin will take care
of them. But not everyone is T1 diabetic. I think you mean
T2 diabetics on meds or on fixed insulin regimes react
badly to carbs, because it raises their after-dinner BG's
too high.

It is the nature of diabetes that diabetics do not process
carbohydrates like non-diabetics. T1s and T2s have different
aspects of their diseases to consider and different
treatment options to choose from, but neither of us
processess carbohydrates "normally" without choosing one of
those treatment options.

Priscilla

--
"This religion [Christianity] isn't for sissies." - my
friend Jane

"Being in the church is sometimes like doing the Bunny Hop."
- my same friend Jane

Christopher C. Stacy wrote:

but in my experience, medical professionals usually give

Quoted message said:

different advice, saying that pasta may be an acceptable

food for

Quoted message said:

diabetics. They specifically advise against "low carbing"

in the

Quoted message said:

sense of the controversial diets that are now popular, and

specify

Quoted message said:

that some amount of complex carbohydrates (which might be

from pasta)

Quoted message said:

are a necessary part of a healthy diabetic diet.

Actually, why do you think that? Because you were told it
was so? What on earth is good in white, sludgy pasta. Does
it help your bowels to work? Is it packed with vitamins and
minerals and other necessary nutrients? What exactly about
pasta do you personally believe is good? Pasta is a complex
carb? A suitable diet for a diabetic, one that will allow
excellent bg control AND provide every nutrient you need for
good health CAN be created WITHOUT pasta, rice and any other
high starch food you can name. It's a matter of researching
what a body needs and adapting a diet around that knowledge.
Professional dietitians don't seem to be able to do that.

What constitutes healthy? To me it is something that
provides everything we need re good health (plenty of
"recommended daily allowances of nutrients" charts
around), including bg control, bp control, the right kind
of fibre for keeping the bowels moving 2-3 times a day
minimum (and soft), is heart healthy (according to the
current cholesterol and lipids charts for diabetics - you
did know a diabetic needs to have lower lipids/chol than
the rest of the population, ditto bp?) and keeps weight at
a healthy level. I wouldn't trust any dietitician as far
as I could throw them with providing me with the right
diet for my needs.

Julie Bove said:

"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

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God (any god!) help me if I ever end up in a nursing home
run by a gerontologist with this level of knowledge of
Type 2 diabetes.

<snip>

My mother in law is in a nursing home.

scary story snipped>

We look after my 93 yo f-i-l. That's one reason we still do.
I hope I go peacefully the night before they come to take me
to the home.

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
carbs to email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Smicker said:

As for cancelling accounts, you are clueless and dreaming.

No ISP will

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pull an account for that, they will just call you an idiot

and delete

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your complaint if you bother to send it. Learn a little

about how

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things really work. If ISPs cancelled accounts because of

[censored]

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like you, within a few weeks there would be no usenet

left.

Clueless? I've had the pleasure of having more commercial
posters accounts pulled than you have probably had hot
dinners. Sorry babe, you picked the wrong person to give
your spiel to this time. ISP's frown upon customers who spam
newsgroups with commercial posts. End of story. ISP's have
more than enough customers without worrying about any
fallout they may receive from pulling a spammers account.
After all the people they spam are their own customers. Just
because you have survived countless complaints for being a
usenet *[censored]* doesn't mean your ISP doesn't pull
accounts for *commercial* spamming. Apparently being an
[censored] doesn't matter too much, but commercial posts ...
whole different kettle of fish.