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  1. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote on 15 Jan 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:


    Ophelia said:

    "sarah bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Yvuyf.4820>

    I find that cooking the rice as if it were a pilaf (i.e. cooking the
    > rice and oil together and then adding hot water/stock) helps
    > tremedously with cooking white rice (esp. aromatic ones)

    I am rubbish at cooking rice🙁 so much so that I bought myself an
    electric rice cooker

    O awaiting the shouts of dirision🙂

    Sound like a good idea to me. My Chinese friends have one which may be
    a hint that it is a good idea.

    Another way to tackle rice is the standard 2 to 2 water - rice ratio,
    put it in covered dish and bake it.
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

    When serving large groups ....cooked white rice can be purchased cheap at
    a chinese restaurant.

    Why would you do that? I'd just fill up my pot with 8 cups of water and
    4 cups of rice.

    That'd get you a bit less than12 cups of rice when all was said and
    done. The bit less is because some of the fluid is lost as steam.

  2. Chris said:

    Now, mashed potatoes are the bane of my culinary existence. Can't make
    decent ones to save my life. If only they had a small appliance for that!

    Actually, somebody makes one. I recently received a spate of catalogs;
    I can't remember if I saw it in Brylane Home or JC Penney Kitchen.

    Cindy Hamilton

  3. Cindy Hamilton said:

    Chris wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now, mashed potatoes are the bane of my culinary existence. Can't make
    decent ones to save my life. If only they had a small appliance for that!

    Quoted message said:

    Actually, somebody makes one. I recently received a spate of catalogs;
    I can't remember if I saw it in Brylane Home or JC Penney Kitchen.

    I've never had any trouble using first a large fork, then a hand-held
    electric mixer. To make them smoother I include one or more of:
    milk, buttermilk, melted butter or goat butter, yogurt, and/or
    olive oil. But I'm sure there's some standard I'm falling
    short of with this approach.

    If it's just me and sweetie eating, we don't bother with the mixer --
    slightly lumpy potatoes are just fine.

    Steve

  4. Tony P. wrote on 15 Jan 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote on 15 Jan 2006 in
    rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:


    Ophelia wrote:
    > "sarah bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:Yvuyf.4820>
    >
    > I find that cooking the rice as if it were a pilaf (i.e. cooking
    > the
    > > rice and oil together and then adding hot water/stock) helps
    > > tremedously with cooking white rice (esp. aromatic ones)
    >
    > I am rubbish at cooking rice🙁 so much so that I bought myself
    > an electric rice cooker
    >
    > O awaiting the shouts of dirision🙂

    Sound like a good idea to me. My Chinese friends have one which
    may be a hint that it is a good idea.

    Another way to tackle rice is the standard 2 to 2 water - rice
    ratio, put it in covered dish and bake it.
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

    When serving large groups ....cooked white rice can be purchased
    cheap at a chinese restaurant.

    Why would you do that? I'd just fill up my pot with 8 cups of water
    and 4 cups of rice.

    That'd get you a bit less than12 cups of rice when all was said and
    done. The bit less is because some of the fluid is lost as steam.

    because when feeding large groups burners are at a premium and that would
    free one up.

    --
    The eyes are the mirrors....
    But the ears...Ah the ears.
    The ears keep the hat up.

  5. One time on Usenet said:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:52:58 GMT, [email hidden]

    (S'mee) said:

    Not from me, I have one too. As for dinner tonight, we're going out.
    It's my birthday today...

    Happy birthday, Jani!

    Thank you, Serene! It was a very nice day... :-)

    --
    Jani in WA (S'mee)
    ~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

  6. On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:14:28 -0800, in rec.food.cooking, The Ranger
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm hosting a gathering of the Clan Ranger tonight and thought the
    following would be easy enough while helping those on "Lite"
    diets.

    Baked chicken breast in orange sauce and cinnamon
    (Bone-in, skin on)

    Roasted carrots, Yukons, garlic, and acorn squash

    Green salad with balsamic vinegar

    I've had a request for white rice (my personal albatross) as well
    but am shying away from that.

    Other ideas? Variations?

    Many thanks!

    The Ranger

    Thank you for not mentioning the pretentiously named living-abortions
    and the "SWMBO"...and for keeping it beneath
    438743947283947302473847234782374234783247092 paragraphs....

  7. On Sun 15 Jan 2006 11:50:37p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it projectile
    vomit chick?

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:14:28 -0800, in rec.food.cooking, The Ranger
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm hosting a gathering of the Clan Ranger tonight and thought the
    following would be easy enough while helping those on "Lite" diets.

    Baked chicken breast in orange sauce and cinnamon
    (Bone-in, skin on)

    Roasted carrots, Yukons, garlic, and acorn squash

    Green salad with balsamic vinegar

    I've had a request for white rice (my personal albatross) as well
    but am shying away from that.

    Other ideas? Variations?

    Many thanks!

    The Ranger

    Thank you for not mentioning the pretentiously named living-abortions
    and the "SWMBO"...and for keeping it beneath
    438743947283947302473847234782374234783247092 paragraphs....

    Amen to that, PVC!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

    Remove all "[censored]'s" from address to e-mail directly.

  8. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:50:37 GMT, projectile vomit chick
    <[email hidden]> gagged:
    [snip of rambling spew]

    Quoted message said:

    Thank you...

    Your membership is still in arrears.

    The Ranger

  9. On 16 Jan 2006 07:55:49 +0100, Duh-Wayne
    <[email hidden]> brayed:
    [snip mulish tag]

    And yet you continue to read everything I post.

    I'm flattered.

    No, really.

    There's a special rate to join my fan club for jackasses of your
    imagined importance.

    The Ranger

  10. Chris said:


    Now, mashed potatoes are the bane of my culinary existence. Can't make
    decent ones to save my life. If only they had a small appliance for that!
    :-)

    C

    There are a couple of tricks to mashed potatoes (stirred with a tool
    called a
    potato masher, leaving hunks of potatoes in the mix) and creamed potatoes
    ("whipped potatoes" to the Yankees <VBG> and beaten with a mixer until
    smooth and fluffy).

    Use red-skinned ("boiling"😉 potatoes only (no white, baking potatoes, no
    yukon golds, etc).

    Peel them, cut them in chunks (a small potato about the size of a golf
    ball should be halved. cut larger potatoes so that the finished chunks
    are about the size of these halves. Size here is very important. Too small
    and you have potato soup; too large and you have potato salad makings.
    Once you get used to making them, the larger size hunks won't be much of a
    problem. It's only a problem until you get the feel for the cooking time)

    Put the potato chunks in a pot with enough room to totally cover the
    potatoes and then some (It's like cooking macaroni, pasta, or dry beans.
    The potatoes don't "swell" but you've got to have a good bit of water.
    Like with macaroni and other pastas, you'll be pouring the excess water
    and starch down the drain.)

    Put the potatoes in a cold pot and cover with cold water. Turn your burner
    on "HI" heat and bring the pot to a boil. Turn down heat to a gently
    rolling boil (about Med Hi). Boil uncovered. [here's why plenty of water.
    You don't want to have to add more water, but if you do, add HOT water,
    kick the heat back up to HI in order to bring to a boil in a hurry and
    then turn heat back down. (the deal here is that you don't want your
    potatoes to "soak" and soak up a lot of excess water).

    Cooking them perfectly "done" is a major trick. This will just take some
    practice. This is why all the chunks should be as close as possible to the
    same size (so they will all be "done" at the same time).

    "perfectly done" will be the consistency of a perfect baked potato.
    {sorry}

    It takes about 20 minutes to cook potatoes (in the perfect "chunk" size),
    but that will give you a guideline.

    When a chunk can be speared with a fork, lifted out of the pot, placed on
    a hard surface (like a plate), and gentle pressure of the tines of the
    fork against the chunk will cause it to mash into a fluffy,
    baked-potato-like consistency, it is done.

    Not-quite-done: the chunk won't lift out of the pot without breaking (or
    it feels like you are spearing an apple)

    Too-done: the chunk dissolves when speared or it comes out of the pot only
    to collapse in a starchy pile when mashed.

    If you "cream" (which is what we do here in the South) the "too done", you
    will have something akin to wall paper paste.

    If youcream the "not-quite-done", you will have something akin to chunky
    peanut butter.

    On both accounts, boo,hiss.

    Until you get the hang of it, you might want to drain in a colander.
    Remove as much water as possible.

    Work quickly. Potatoes cool off rapidly (again with the boo, hiss).
    Creaming takes only a couple of minutes, so everything else on the menu
    should be headed to the table.

    Toss potatoes in a mixing bowl, add a big hunk of butter and a few
    tablespoons of milk, S&P to taste, mix on low until the potatoes are
    crushed. Turn mixer up. They should fluff - much like egg whites or
    whipping cream. Scrape the bottom and sides of bowl. If they are a little
    dry, add a touch more milk (or cream or half and half). If they are too
    wet, you are screwed.

    While the bowl is turning, stick a teaspoon into the potatoes. They should
    mound in the spoon in a fluffy pile. Stick spoon in mouth. They should
    taste fluffy and buttery. You should automatically say, "ooooh"

    Share with others or keep all for yourself. <g>

    Just a little practice will have you turning out super creamed potatoes in
    no time.

    Good luck

    Elaine, too


  11. Quoted message said:
    One time on Usenet said:

    "sarah bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Yvuyf.4820>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I find that cooking the rice as if it were a pilaf (i.e. cooking the
    rice and oil together and then adding hot water/stock) helps
    tremedously with cooking white rice (esp. aromatic ones)

    Quoted message said:

    I am rubbish at cooking rice🙁 so much so that I bought myself an
    electric rice cooker

    O awaiting the shouts of dirision🙂

    tee hee hee. Not from me. I say, "whatever makes your life easier".

    I don't have a rice cooker. We don't eat enough rice for me to store
    another appliance under the counter <g>.

    'Round here (Southern US), we do eat white rice (with lots of butter and
    sugar [and NO, I don't want to hear it <g>]) for breakfast as a hot cereal
    with a side of pan toast. But we don't use the degree of dryness that rice
    cookers produce.

    And it's popular with chicken, but potatoes are usually a first choice
    (the "old folks" grew potatoes, but rice had to be purchased).

    We cook it in a pot on the stove, like one would cook macaroni or other
    pasta or dry beans, etc. If there is excess water, we drain it off. If the
    water content is such that the rice starch thickens the mix (which is the
    way we use it as cereal), we just dish it up. If we want it to be indy
    grains and fluffy, we toss it in a colander and rinse the starch off with
    hot water.

    I just put the rice in a cold pot and cover with cold water (enough to
    cover the puffed up rice and then some). I bring the pot to a rapid boil
    and then turn down the heat to a gentle boil. I cook it about 20 minutes.

    If I want to put a top on the pot to contain the amount of evaporation, I
    use less water. Stir frequently.

    If I am not going to use a top, I generally add a little more water for
    the evaporation. Stir frequently.

    I no longer do the "place on pot lid, don't open until done, steam it in a
    little water" because that burns a coat of rice on the bottom of my pan
    and I can get the same results rinsing the rice. Just don't over cook or
    like macaroni and other pasta and potatoes and dry beans, it gets soggy
    and mushy.

    Elaine, too

  12. Steve Pope said:
    Cindy Hamilton said:

    Chris wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now, mashed potatoes are the bane of my culinary existence. Can't make
    decent ones to save my life. If only they had a small appliance for that!

    Quoted message said:

    Actually, somebody makes one. I recently received a spate of catalogs;
    I can't remember if I saw it in Brylane Home or JC Penney Kitchen.

    I've never had any trouble using first a large fork, then a hand-held
    electric mixer. To make them smoother I include one or more of:
    milk, buttermilk, melted butter or goat butter, yogurt, and/or
    olive oil. But I'm sure there's some standard I'm falling
    short of with this approach.

    If it's just me and sweetie eating, we don't bother with the mixer --
    slightly lumpy potatoes are just fine.

    Steve

    Slightly lumpy potatoes???? Sacrilege! Pure Sacrilege! 50 lashes with a
    wet noodle! <VBG>

    Elaine, too

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