"Sure fire" supplements

I find that flaxseed oil and a natural pain relieving balm work wonders
for me. Also drink plenty of juice.

They make your wallet lighter.
With less weight you run faster and further :-)

rick++ said:

They make your wallet lighter.
With less weight you run faster and further :-)

Rick the idiot.

Hi there,
Besides vitamins and the illegal stuffs, I would like to find out what are
the 'sure fire' supplements that really enhance performance. Things like L-
carnitine, L- glutamine, Coenzyme Q10 and the likes.
Care to share your real experience here?

Thanks in advance.
Davy

Doug said:

Other then steroids the best enhancement booster is solid training and
this includes good balanced nutrition sans any magic potions.

And steroids - though very real and highly effective - are surely number two
behind solid training, even though your sentence above could be read as
implying the reverse. If you're only gonna do one or the other, train and
skip the 'roids.

For endurance running, EPO is way up there as well.

Your fast gal pal J.e.F. who no longer posts here once seemed interested in
cordyceps. Any idea if she followed up and her experiences?

"Researchers in Oregon examined the benefits of vitamin E supplements
for runners in a 50-kilometer (31 mile) ultramarathon in Corvallis.
Their study found that runners taking vitamin E did not experience the
usual increase in lipid oxidation - a kind of damage that can weaken
cells and cause long-term cardiovascular problems - that results from
extreme exercise".

http://www.axcessnews.com/health_021505.shtml

http://www.crnusa.org/PR05_0127_Traber.html

Roasted or Baked Doug?...your Crow.

Quoted message said:

"Researchers in Oregon examined the benefits of vitamin E supplements
for runners in a 50-kilometer (31 mile) ultramarathon in Corvallis.
Their study found that runners taking vitamin E did not experience the
usual increase in lipid oxidation - a kind of damage that can weaken
cells and cause long-term cardiovascular problems - that results from
extreme exercise".

http://www.axcessnews.com/health_021505.shtml

http://www.crnusa.org/PR05_0127_Traber.html

Roasted or Baked Doug?...your Crow.

Of course I ate turkey, when my COON hunting dog wrestled up some grub
for me in the form of roadkill. Well so what if it was just
watermelon, I like watermelon.

Lance Andrew

All you need is weight training and a knowledgeable "nutritionist." I
used to look like a whimpy runner now I look like a linebacker.

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Bonds) said:

All you need is weight training and a knowledgeable "nutritionist." I
used to look like a whimpy runner now I look like a linebacker.

A GAY linebacker, butt a linebacker no less...

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And steroids - though very real and highly effective - are surely
number two behind solid training, even though your sentence above
could be read as implying the reverse. If you're only gonna do one or
the other, train and skip the 'roids.

My poorly stated point was to use training as the only way.

Quoted message said:

Your fast gal pal J.e.F. who no longer posts here once seemed
interested in cordyceps. Any idea if she followed up and her
experiences?

I have no idea about Jen and cordyceps. She did just finish a recent
marathon and is still running in the high 2:50's and placing in the top
5 babes. IMO, she is doing very well but at her genetic max. Then again,
who knows, maybe having a little one will take her up another notch.

-DougF

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"Researchers in Oregon examined the benefits of vitamin E supplements
for runners in a 50-kilometer (31 mile) ultramarathon in Corvallis.
Their study found that runners taking vitamin E did not experience the
usual increase in lipid oxidation - a kind of damage that can weaken
cells and cause long-term cardiovascular problems - that results from
extreme exercise".

http://www.axcessnews.com/health_021505.shtml

http://www.crnusa.org/PR05_0127_Traber.html

Roasted or Baked Doug?...your Crow.

Now I know why they publish stuff like this - there are gullible people
that read it AND believe it. It's such a crock of [censored] because it is
not controlled in any way. It could be the E, the water or the boiled
spuds. Even E as an anti-oxidant is under question by the science
community. In fact some recent studies have shown higher does of E have
raised mortality rates. A similar study of looking at other studies and
drawing SWAG conclusions. So one study shows it helps and another says
it will kill you. What it all says, they are not really sure about
anything.

I happen to take 400 E a day because I'm still thick headed that it does
have anti-oxidant goodness and I don't eat balanced every day.

If there is eating going on it's going to be you getting a chocolate
gullibility award. Do you also read the National Enquirer and watch Fox
News for all you facts. 😉

-DF

Doug Freese said:

If there is eating going on it's going to be you getting a chocolate
gullibility award. Do you also read the National Enquirer and watch Fox
News for all you facts. 😉

Nah, I'm sure he's like me and watches CNN for all the "facts." ;-)

tkb

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It's such a crock of [censored] because it is not controlled in any way.

-DF

Just so I am clear here, you're discrediting a published study in the
May '05 publication of Free Radical Biology & Medicine that you've not
read. You're also asserting the work of Dr. Maret Traber of the Linus
Pauling Institute at Oregon State University is a "crock of [censored]", even
though you've not reviewed her work.

How is an uninformed and unaccredited mind, closed and made up, not
very "Fox News-esque"? So much for wisdom coming with age.

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Quoted message said:

It's such a crock of [censored] because it is not controlled in any way.

-DF

Just so I am clear here, you're discrediting a published study in the
May '05 publication of Free Radical Biology & Medicine that you've not
read. You're also asserting the work of Dr. Maret Traber of the Linus
Pauling Institute at Oregon State University is a "crock of [censored]", even
though you've not reviewed her work.

How is an uninformed and unaccredited mind, closed and made up, not
very "Fox News-esque"?

Fox News is very informed compared to you Eastern dolts that are constantly
whining at each other.

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So much for wisdom coming with age.

X-No-Archive: yes

Bart said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's such a crock of [censored] because it is not controlled in any way.

-DF

Just so I am clear here, you're discrediting a published study in the
May '05 publication of Free Radical Biology & Medicine that you've not
read. You're also asserting the work of Dr. Maret Traber of the Linus
Pauling Institute at Oregon State University is a "crock of [censored]", even
though you've not reviewed her work.

How is an uninformed and unaccredited mind, closed and made up, not
very "Fox News-esque"?

Fox News is very informed compared to you Eastern dolts that are constantly
whining at each other.

Ah, Dhali, Dhali, I see you are back, Dhaliwal.
Dude, it's curious how you always choose these WASP names for your
handles. Stan/Mitch/Jon/John/whatnot... How about a Panjabi name for a
change? Still afraid of your culture?

TBR

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So much for wisdom coming with age.