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  1. [email hidden] (Stephen Andrewartha) wrote in
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    Rich Andrews <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I have more fun with JWs and their belief system. I apply pure logic
    to poke holes in their belief system and when I am done, their
    arguments blow away like a puff of dust. One day I might even make a
    convert.

    Don't hold your breath. You cannot defeat faith with logic.

    Stephen.

    I disagree. One can defeat faith but one cannot defeat stupidity with logic.

    r

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    magic."

    Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

  2. "Frank" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "ResLight" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    " ~ . * .¤. * .~" [email hidden]> wrote in message


    It's

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    been said he was an alcoholic who never could keep a job, a pedophile

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    who liked little girls, and a carnival worker... take your pick.

    So much is "said" about Charles Taze Russell. Because this or that is
    "said" does not mean it is the truth. And he is in good company.
    Luke 7:34 - The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say,
    'Behold, a gluttonous man, and a drunkard; a friend of tax collectors


    and

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    sinners!'

    Fair enough, but what about the JW's now? They still twist doctrine to


    thier

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    liking. They are still shallow and hate anyone that rejects the message of
    the JW's.

    After Charles Russell died, Joseph Rutherford did indeed distort Biblical
    truths in order make an organization with himself as the supreme ruler. I
    cannot make a blanket statement about all JWs, but I do know that many of
    Rutherford's writings expressed eternal condemnation for practically anyone
    who would disagree with him. The problem with Rutherford, as well as many of
    his associates, is that he -- having once been a close associate of
    Russell -- knew the truth concerning the "ransom for all" as given by the
    Lord Jesus (Hosea 13:14; Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; 1 Timothy 2:5,6; Hebrews
    2:9) and then became one of its strongest opponents, and thus led his
    followers into the same denial.

    Today, while the present leadership doesn't come on as strong as Rutherford,
    most of the JWs are loyal to whatever is said by their leaders, and their
    actions and conduct often reflect what their leaders have told to them to
    do. This kind of mindset often leads them to act in very unusal, and often
    un-Christian ways. If they are told to treat so-and-so harshly, ugly or even
    hateful, they will do it, thinking they are doing a service to Jehovah in
    doing so, for in reality, a command from the WT is taken as a command from
    Jehovah himself, and to disobey would considered showing lack of love for
    Jehovah. It is not much different from the old church-state systems, where
    rulers claimed to rule by divine right.

    Something I have found, however, is that almost everyone has at least one
    horror story to tell concerning evil things that have happened to them in
    their lifetime. This is true because we are still living in the world that
    God is permitting Satan to rule over. -- John 14:30; 2 Corinthians 4:4;
    Ephesians 2:2; Revelation 12:9.

    For those who have been deeply associated with the JWs, and who leave that
    organization, or of any similar organization, of course, the focus of their
    horror stories is often associated with the organization they have come out
    of. Many leave such organizations with a bitter heart, and wish to strike
    back at what they perceive to be the source of their hurt. Many continue in
    hurt all their lives because they do not give their burden to Yahweh, and
    let him take care of it. (Psalm 55:22; Isaiah 50:10; Philippians 4:6,7; 1
    Peter 5:5-7) Additionally, the follower of Jesus is told to rise above the
    natural tendencies of our sinful flesh, and not to repay evil for evil. --
    Proverbs 20:22; Matthew 5:39; Romans 12:17-19; 1 Thessalonians 5:15; 1 Peter
    3:8,9.

    http://reslight.addr.com/wtransom.html
    http://reslight.addr.com/heb12-3.html

    Agape love,
    Ronald

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