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  1. O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are closing,
    several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a
    6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
    possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find it. Huge mobs will
    be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just
    plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    Farmer John

  2. Fudge said:


    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S.
    treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
    upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find it.
    Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now, all you
    foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    nancy

  3. "Fudge" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S.
    treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
    upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find it.
    Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now, all you
    foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    Farmer John


    This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who will be only too happy to
    answer your question in more detail than you're likely to want.

    Also, google for urban agriculture.

    And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many books which deal with
    survival conditions which you've probably never thought of -- fatal collisions between universes,
    the literal death of God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

    Judge Sawney Bean The law west of Donner Pass.

    --
    Dan Goodman Journal dsgood.blogspot.comdsgood.blogspot.com or livejournal.comdsgood Whatever
    you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

  4. Nancy Young said:
    Fudge said:


    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S.
    treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive
    economic upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you
    can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now,
    all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    nancy

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

  5. "Dan Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Fudge" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the
    U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive
    economic upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you
    can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now,
    all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to
    survive?

    Farmer John


    This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who will be only too happy to
    answer your question in more detail than you're likely to want.

    Survive? How could anyone possibly survive without Skippy peanut butter?

    I'm going to buy up all the ashes and sackcloth I can find (before the rush, you know), and start
    giving "gnashing, wailing, and rending" lessons. Gotta stay up with the current fashions...

    Sheesh...

    Quoted message said:

    Also, google for urban agriculture.

    And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many books which deal with
    survival conditions which you've probably never thought of -- fatal collisions between universes,
    the literal death of God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

    Don't forget the Spikey-Haired Cannibal Mutants.

    CC

  6. Boron Elgar said:


    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

  7. Nancy Young <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Boron Elgar said:


    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

    And a very good one!

  8. Nancy Young said:
    Boron Elgar said:

    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

    but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>

    --
    Steve

    Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

  9. In rec.food.cooking said:

    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S.
    treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
    upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find it.
    Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail. Now, all you
    foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    Quoted message said:

    Farmer John

    I'm going to steal food from farmers at gunpoint.

    --
    ...I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...

    - The Who

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Fudge" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the U.S.
    treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive
    economic upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you
    can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.

    "And it's just another day in Paradise..."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    Farmer John


    This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who will be only too happy to
    answer your question in more detail than you're likely to want.

    (cracks knuckles)

    You betcha!

    Quoted message said:

    Also, google for urban agriculture.

    And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many books which deal with
    survival conditions which you've probably never thought of -- fatal collisions between universes,
    the literal death of God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

    Why would we want to bring cats down to our level? ^_^

    Anyway, as for surviving The End of The World As We Know It (whether you're feeling fine or
    otherwise...)

    Everyone should have enough supplies to survive at least 3 - 7 days if you've completely cut off and
    all utilities fail. This is not paranoid lunatic raving; rather, it is the minimum recommended by
    both FEMA and the Red Cross. In fact, on their websites, both of these organizations have checklists
    of things it is good to have in emergency that you can download and follow to prepare an excellent
    cache of survival supplies that may mean the difference between being comfortable instead of
    miserable. Not to mention life, or the alternative...

    Longer term, many people - and not just those who belong to the Latterday Saints - store food in
    large quantities. This can be preserved garden produce, a full pantry (rice, beans, fruits and
    vegetables and meals in cans), or even dried grains in buckets. You can last a long time on those.

    Even longer term, intense gardening/farming (as long as you have the water for it), hunting and
    fishing (although this may not be very successful, since a lot of hungry people are going to be out
    searching for food. This is why those whose planning consists solely of running for the hills may be
    in trouble, because that what LOTS of people apparently plan to do. And there are only so many hills
    out there...), and gathering (wild edible plants, insects, worms (fried worms definately do NOT
    taste like chicken)...): With such techniques, you can withstand a LOT of trouble.

    Assuming somebody more desperate doesn't shoot and eat YOU...

    FW

  11. "Condor Chef" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<yksJb.16074$JD6.14557@lakeread04>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dan Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Fudge" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is dropping, factories are
    closing, several states are flat busted broke, Arnold is governor of California, the
    U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive
    economic upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you
    can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
    Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to
    survive?

    Farmer John

    Assuming for a moment that the situation is not quite that bad:

    - I have observed both a hurricane and a winter storm knocking out power for several weeks.
    - I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in waiting in gasoline lines during
    the gasoline crunch of the (was it late 70's?). I mention that because it illustrates how quickly
    we can get 'testy' if things don't function as we expect. I get uncomfortable waiting in
    supermarket lines when a winter storm is forecast.
    - I believe the terrorist threats to be real, and although we'll be able to sort things out in a
    matter of time, I'd like to be able to feed my family during the crisis period. Being prepared is
    a way of fighting back. I don't feel powerless. Sort of establishing an alternate food-supply
    infrastructure. Also, there may be folks who need community-based help more than I do/will.

    So, armed with those threat possibilities (you need to do your own threat assessment; Farmer John
    obviously has a more dramatic view then I do), how does one prepare? I figure the stuff in the
    freezer is good for about a week, then it gets made into a BIG casserole, as much as possible
    consumed, then discarded (unless I can keep it cold somehow). Then what?

    Remember my question about 'all cans meals'? Bingo.

    - Mike (off to see if canning supplies are still available)

  12. Steve Calvin <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:
    Boron Elgar said:

    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:

    >By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

    but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>


    Come the revolution....

    --
    Dan Goodman Journal dsgood.blogspot.comdsgood.blogspot.com or livejournal.comdsgood Whatever
    you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

  13. Steve Calvin said:


    Nancy Young said:
    Boron Elgar said:

    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:

    >By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    We could all eat fudge.

    Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

    but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>

    --
    Steve

    There's one in every crowd! Okay, you have something not as good.

    nancy (wants to set the record straight that I most assuredly not call Boron an idiot)

  14. Nancy Young said:
    Steve Calvin said:
    Nancy Young said:

    Boron Elgar wrote:

    >On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    >>By ignoring idiots like you?

    >We could all eat fudge.
    >
    >Boron

    Now, there's a plan!

    (laugh) nancy

    but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>

    --
    Steve

    There's one in every crowd! Okay, you have something not as good.

    nancy (wants to set the record straight that I most assuredly not call Boron an idiot)

    k, cool. I'll take pizza and beer! :-)))

    --
    Steve

    Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

  15. Quoted message said:

    - I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in waiting in gasoline lines during
    the gasoline crunch of the (was it late 70's?).

    1973

    Remove TIE to reply.

    home.bellsouth.netPWP billslitterbox

  16. Bill Reynolds said:
    Quoted message said:

    - I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in waiting in gasoline lines during
    the gasoline crunch of the (was it late 70's?).

    1973

    Remove TIE to reply.

    home.bellsouth.netPWP billslitterbox

    Yup. I was in tech. school in Pittsburgh. Remember the gas line parties well. (Well, most
    of 'em) ;-)

    --
    Steve

    Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>, Bill Reynolds

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in waiting in gasoline lines during
    the gasoline crunch of the (was it late 70's?).

    1973

    1973 AND 1979, when the Iranian oil shortage happened (hostage crisis, etc.).

    I was in gas lines in both of these years.

    --Tim May

  18. Nancy Young <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Fudge said:


    O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just
    plain subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    nancy

    Eh, He's probably one of those folks who thought Y2K would represent "the end of life as we know it"
    complete with airplanes falling out of the sky. I agree the economy is in trouble, however, we've
    been in trouble before. Assuming we last so long, I plan to help Dubya make an important career
    change next Election Day.

    Now please pass the fudge. =o)

    Melissa

  19. Melissa Houle said:


    Nancy Young <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By ignoring idiots like you?

    Quoted message said:

    Eh, He's probably one of those folks who thought Y2K would represent "the end of life as we know
    it" complete with airplanes falling out of the sky.

    (laugh) And you'd better be prepared to barricade yourself and fend off the neighbors from stealing
    your food, by arming yourself. Well, it was good for a laugh.

    nancy

  20. Bill Reynolds said:


    Quoted message said:

    - I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in waiting in gasoline lines during
    the gasoline crunch of the (was it late 70's?).

    1973

    Well, I waited in plenty of gas lines and that was before I was of driving age. It was in the
    neighborhood of '78, '79.

    nancy

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