sushi

I have found that beer works very well with sushi, as does saki. No
surprise there. However, I also found a zinfandel that was so spicy as
to be (IMHO) borderline defective, worked extremely well and stood up to
the wasabi. IIRC it was the 1997 Lolonis Zinfandel - great with Maguro
(sushi tuna), hot Italian sausage, and other very spicy foods, but
overpowers anything else.

Jose
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Paul M. Cook said:

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RichD said:

Where does wasabi come from?

The wasabi root.

It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

Wasabi, horseradish, and daikon are three entirely different things,
although wasabi and horseradish do taste very similar (which is why
horseradish is often referred to as "Western wasabi" in Japanese and wasabi
is referred to as "Japanese horseradish" in English).

--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan

Paul wrote on Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT:

PMC> "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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??>> On 2007-07-22, RichD <[email hidden]> wrote:
??>>> Where does wasabi come from?
??>>
??>> The wasabi root.

PMC> It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

??>>> What is the ginger for?
??>>
??>> To cleanse the palate between bites.

PMC> It is also a digestive and settles the stomach.

??>>> What are recommended wines with sushi?

??>> Saki.

PMC> Sake, I do believe. I prefer beer with sushi. The two
PMC> are a perfect match. A nice dry beer, like a high adjunct
PMC> Japanese beer is the best.

First let me say that I like beer with sushi. Practically any
non-sweet beer will do but my preference is for Japanese beers,
particularly the "dry" ones. I believe Japanese do drink beer
with sushi but I think tea is more usual or even water. I prefer
to drink *cold* sake before eating and, again, I believe this is
the Japanese custom.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

OK, OK, I will get to the bottom of this. Next time I hit the store I'll
check up on it. Apparently there is "fake" wasabi out there - an apparent
clandestine black market of fake radish paste. I have done a quick check on
the 'net and I see the stuff is now grown in Korea and even in Alaska. So
it may not be "true" wasabi, in that it is not grown in fields originally
plowed by Shoguns from the 12 cengtury and tended by virgin japanese maidens
in kimonos who sing to the plants at night and caress them like lovers
while tenderly pruning their budding young shoots. But it sure tastes like
wasabi and it will cure a head cold in 5 seconds flat.

And I thought Kobe beef was elitist.

Paul

RichD said:

Where does wasabi come from?

Japanese horseradish.

Quoted message said:

What is the ginger for?

It's a palate cleanser.

Quoted message said:

What are recommended wines with sushi?

It's better with beer or sake, IMO.

Paul wrote on Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:57:47 GMT:

PMC> And I thought Kobe beef was elitist.

Are you sure that a seven-year apprenticeship is not needed in
Japan for beef and wasabi growing? Perhaps, there are numerous
colored belts awarded and 10 dans each :-)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

AyTee said:

notbob said:

On 2007-07-22, RichD <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Where does wasabi come from?

Quoted message said:

The wasabi root.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the ginger for?

Quoted message said:

To cleanse the palate between bites.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What are recommended wines with sushi?

Quoted message said:

Saki.

Quoted message said:

nb

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Quoted message said:

--
Rich

Sparkling wines can work pretty well with sushi. I like sushi with
Marlborough sauvignon. Sake is probably more traditional, but I know
little about it, except that sake is not really wine -- more related
to beer. Come to think of it, beer goes great with sushi.

I agree about beer & sushi. Yes, Sake is more of a beer than a wine
in that it's fermented from grains rather than grapes. It's stronger
than a typical beer and it's not seasoned w/ hops.

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Paul wrote on Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:57:47 GMT:

PMC> And I thought Kobe beef was elitist.

Are you sure that a seven-year apprenticeship is not needed in Japan for
beef and wasabi growing? Perhaps, there are numerous colored belts awarded
and 10 dans each :-)

Not to mention 3 day long Kabuki theater productions dramatizing the
cultivation of the precious radish plant. And bento boxes included with the
ticket.

Geta give me bunions
Daddy needs a new pair of shoes
Grow fast little green friend

Paul

Paul M. Cook said:

OK, OK, I will get to the bottom of this.

This may help:

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/wasabi.asp

I've yet to try the real thing, myself.

nb

Anglo-Saxon's enjoy Sushi and a cute JP girl.

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RichD said:

Where does wasabi come from?

What is the ginger for?

What are recommended wines with sushi?

--
Rich

The Gari ginger is for refreshing one's mouth. It removes the taste of
stuff you ate before, then makes you ready for other stuff. It's like
eatable ginger ale.

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OK, OK, I will get to the bottom of this. Next time I hit the store I'll
check up on it. Apparently there is "fake" wasabi out there - an apparent
clandestine black market of fake radish paste. I have done a quick check
on the 'net and I see the stuff is now grown in Korea and even in Alaska.
So it may not be "true" wasabi, in that it is not grown in fields
originally plowed by Shoguns from the 12 cengtury and tended by virgin
japanese maidens in kimonos who sing to the plants at night and caress
them like lovers while tenderly pruning their budding young shoots. But
it sure tastes like wasabi and it will cure a head cold in 5 seconds flat.

And I thought Kobe beef was elitist.

Paul

Try: http://www.freshwasabi.com/siuslaw.aspx

Ken K

notbob said:

RichD said:

Where does wasabi come from?

The wasabi root.

Actually, most "wasabi" you get in sushi bars is really just
horseradish and green food coloring. Real wasabi is very expensive.
Some high-class sushi bars have it, but you have to ask for it, and be
prepared to pay a significant amount of extra money, perhaps as much
as $25US.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is the ginger for?

To cleanse the palate between bites.

Quoted message said:

What are recommended wines with sushi?

Saki.

Three points:

1. It's spelled "sake," with an "e" at the end.

2. Because it's made from rice (a grain), not fruit, sake is actually
an uncarbonated *beer*, not a wine at all.

3. Traditionally, sake is drunk with sashimi, but never with sushi.
The Japanese feel that sake with sushi is rice with rice, and don't go
together.

I normally drink either tea or beer with sushi (both are traditional),
but I've occasionally had it with wine. I think a crisp white wine,
like a sauvignon blanc, works.

But untraditional as it may be, I don't mind sake with sushi either.

--
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AyTee said:

notbob said:

RichD said:

What are recommended wines with sushi?

Saki.

nb

Quoted message said:

--
Rich

Sparkling wines can work pretty well with sushi. I like sushi with
Marlborough sauvignon. Sake is probably more traditional, but I know
little about it, except that sake is not really wine -- more related
to beer. Come to think of it, beer goes great with sushi.

Andy

My favorite is shots of ice cold vodka.

-bwg

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OK, OK, I will get to the bottom of this. Next time I hit the store I'll
check up on it. Apparently there is "fake" wasabi out there - an
apparent clandestine black market of fake radish paste. I have done a
quick check on the 'net and I see the stuff is now grown in Korea and
even in Alaska. So it may not be "true" wasabi, in that it is not grown
in fields originally plowed by Shoguns from the 12 cengtury and tended by
virgin japanese maidens in kimonos who sing to the plants at night and
caress them like lovers while tenderly pruning their budding young
shoots. But it sure tastes like wasabi and it will cure a head cold in 5
seconds flat.

And I thought Kobe beef was elitist.

Paul

Try: http://www.freshwasabi.com/siuslaw.aspx

Hmmm ... they say wasabi is a member of the mustard family. Mustards
reproduce by seeds, not rhizomes. In fact prepared mustards are made from
the seeds themselves. Other sites say wasabi is a member of the cabbage
family, and this is something I always assumed.

Is there a botanist in the house?

Paul

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

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>> Where does wasabi come from?
>
> The wasabi root.

It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
Wasabi root is not.

Not the same..not even close. Research it.

You are way off...sorry.

Yeah, uh huh. If you want to research it, look up daikon wasabi. I've
made the stuff myself, the only thing I didn't have that was exactly
traditional was a chunk of shark skin. I instead bought a plastic daikon
grater online. As for not finding the "real" wasabi root in the states, I
can buy it in my local Vons and I've used it to serve with roast beef more
than once.

It's horseradish.

She's right you know: You're full of [censored]. Look it up yourself.

Daikon != Horseradish (or diakon). Not even close. I think
you're confused about all three.

-sw

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>>> Where does wasabi come from?
>>
>> The wasabi root.
>
>It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
Wasabi root is not.

Not the same..not even close. Research it.

You are way off...sorry.

Yeah, uh huh. If you want to research it, look up daikon wasabi. I've
made the stuff myself, the only thing I didn't have that was exactly
traditional was a chunk of shark skin. I instead bought a plastic daikon
grater online. As for not finding the "real" wasabi root in the states,
I
can buy it in my local Vons and I've used it to serve with roast beef
more
than once.

It's horseradish.

She's right you know: You're full of [censored]. Look it up yourself.

Ah yes, the famous Mr. Wertz. The guy who infects email boxes with
unsolicted messages about his vast superiority in all things including the
social graces.

I did look it up. It all says wasabi is a member of the cabbage family, as
is horseradish. So it is horseradish. Apparently very expsensive
horseradish but then Japan is famous for things like $10,000.00 fish and
$35,000.00 sides of beef.

Paul

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I did look it up. It all says wasabi is a member of the cabbage family, as
is horseradish. So it is horseradish. Apparently very expsensive
horseradish but then Japan is famous for things like $10,000.00 fish and
$35,000.00 sides of beef.

Paul

You might want to thing that through. Just because something is related
to something doesn't make it the same thing. Humans, dogs and whales are
mammals but are they the same?

Ken wrote on Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:12:41 -0700:

??>> On 2007-07-22, RichD <[email hidden]> wrote:
??>>> Where does wasabi come from?
??>>
??>> The wasabi root.

KB> Actually, most "wasabi" you get in sushi bars is really
KB> just horseradish and green food coloring. Real wasabi is
KB> very expensive. Some high-class sushi bars have it, but you
KB> have to ask for it, and be prepared to pay a significant
KB> amount of extra money, perhaps as much as $25US.

My normal reference for all "spices" is Gernot Katter. His
article on wasabi is
http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Wasa_jap.html
It is a bit of a stretch to call wasabi a spice but anyway! One
or two interesting things are that it *is* diffficult to grow
(even if virgins in kimonos are not essential) and consequently
the real thing is expensive. Nothing disagrees with what you say
but the page makes interesting reading.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
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Paul M. Cook said:

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I did look it up. It all says wasabi is a member of the cabbage family,

as

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is horseradish. So it is horseradish. Apparently very expsensive
horseradish but then Japan is famous for things like $10,000.00 fish and
$35,000.00 sides of beef.

Paul

You might want to thing that through. Just because something is related
to something doesn't make it the same thing. Humans, dogs and whales are
mammals but are they the same?

Recalling my bio background, taxonomy goes kingdom, phylum, class, order,
family, genus and species.

Humans, whales and dogs are in the order Mammalia. Cabbages comprise a
family, a closer relation than an order.

And I've learned something, apparently cabbage and mustard are the same
family - Brassicaceae, also called Cruciferae. Includes broccoli, kohl
rabi, kale, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, horseradish, wasabi,
collards, turnips, radishes and watercress.

But I'll admit I never knew wasabi was so precious. Leave it to the
Japanese to sell a radish paste for 25 bucks a dollop.

Paul

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Quoted message said:

I did look it up. It all says wasabi is a member of the cabbage family,

as

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is horseradish. So it is horseradish. Apparently very expsensive
horseradish but then Japan is famous for things like $10,000.00 fish and
$35,000.00 sides of beef.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Paul

Quoted message said:

You might want to thing that through. Just because something is related
to something doesn't make it the same thing. Humans, dogs and whales are
mammals but are they the same?

Recalling my bio background, taxonomy goes kingdom, phylum, class, order,
family, genus and species.

Humans, whales and dogs are in the order Mammalia. Cabbages comprise a
family, a closer relation than an order.

And I've learned something, apparently cabbage and mustard are the same
family - Brassicaceae, also called Cruciferae. Includes broccoli, kohl
rabi, kale, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, horseradish, wasabi,
collards, turnips, radishes and watercress.

But I'll admit I never knew wasabi was so precious. Leave it to the
Japanese to sell a radish paste for 25 bucks a dollop.

It goes really well with the $1,000/oz otoro.