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  1. Where does wasabi come from?

    What is the ginger for?

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

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    Rich

  2. RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    To cleanse the palate between bites.

    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Saki.

    nb

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Rich

  3. notbob said:
    RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    To cleanse the palate between bites.

    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Saki.

    nb

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Rich

    Sparkling wines can work pretty well with sushi. I like sushi with
    Marlborough sauvignon. Sake is probably more traditional, but I know
    little about it, except that sake is not really wine -- more related
    to beer. Come to think of it, beer goes great with sushi.

    Andy

  4. notbob said:
    RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    To cleanse the palate between bites.

    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Saki.

    nb

    Quoted message said:

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    Rich- -

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    Sake or some good white wine.
    Try Daiginjo.
    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=daiginjo&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

    It's slightly expensive but it's better.

  5. RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    What is the ginger for?

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    --
    Rich

    The Gari ginger is for refreshing one's mouth. It removes the taste of
    stuff you ate before, then makes you ready for other stuff. It's like
    eatable ginger ale.

  6. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    To cleanse the palate between bites.

    It is also a digestive and settles the stomach.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Quoted message said:

    Saki.

    Sake, I do believe. I prefer beer with sushi. The two are a perfect match.
    A nice dry beer, like a high adjunct Japanese beer is the best.

    Paul

  7. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

    NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

    Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
    Wasabi root is not.

    Not the same..not even close. Research it.

    You are way off...sorry.

    Christine

  8. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

    NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

    Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
    Wasabi root is not.

    Not the same..not even close. Research it.

    You are way off...sorry.

    Yeah, uh huh. If you want to research it, look up daikon wasabi. I've
    made the stuff myself, the only thing I didn't have that was exactly
    traditional was a chunk of shark skin. I instead bought a plastic daikon
    grater online. As for not finding the "real" wasabi root in the states, I
    can buy it in my local Vons and I've used it to serve with roast beef more
    than once.

    It's horseradish.

    Paul

  9. Christine Dabney said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Where does wasabi come from?
    The wasabi root.


    It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

    NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

    Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
    Wasabi root is not.

    Not the same..not even close. Research it.

    You are way off...sorry.

    Christine

    Get ready for this one, Christine.... Most wasabi sold today actually
    HAS horseradish mixed into it. The wasabi is just too damned expensive
    to serve in most restaurants, so the commercial mix is with horseradish!
    The stuff you get in the little plastic pouches has more horseradish
    than wasabi!! But of course you are absolutley correct in your
    statement that wasabi is a very different plant than daikon radish which
    is not the least bit pungent. True wasabi can knock your socks off! It's
    also very difficult to grow, and in all the years that I lived in Japan,
    never saw a wasabi root any thicker than about 3/4 of an inch and 5-6
    inches long. The daikon we bought several times a week was 2-4 inches
    thick and often a foot long or more! Plus daikon is white, while wasabi
    is green, as will be Paul when he reads this post!

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com

    --
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  10. RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    In the US, the stork brings it. In the UK it's found under a cabbage leaf.

    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    Fred.

    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Honeyyyyy, when are we going to Florrridaaaa?

    Wasabi is a small root grown in very cool wet environments. Until
    recently, it was only grown in Japan and Korea, but about 10-15 years
    ago a northern California farmer was able to commercially grow wasabi in
    the US.

    Ginger is used for four purposes; to cleanse the pallet between
    different flavors of sushi, as a vegetable eaten along with sushi, as a
    flavoring in cooking, and.... get ready for this... as a great way to
    prevent motion sickness!! (sea sickness, car sickness, air, etc.,) Even
    ginger snaps work, as does ginger ale, and crystallized ginger candy.
    Many people undergoing chemotherapy are now using ginger to prevent the
    associated nausea!

    While sake is the traditional wine, many people prefer a dark beer. The
    sake can be drunk warm or cold depending upon the season. The beer is
    best served cold.

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  11. "Steve Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Christine Dabney said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:22:45 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    >> Where does wasabi come from?
    > The wasabi root.
    It's horseradish. Also called daikon radish.

    NO. Not even close. Totally different things.

    Daikon radish is available a lot in this country. Wasabi root is not.
    Not the same..not even close. Research it.

    You are way off...sorry.

    Christine

    Get ready for this one, Christine.... Most wasabi sold today actually HAS
    horseradish mixed into it. The wasabi is just too damned expensive to
    serve in most restaurants, so the commercial mix is with horseradish! The
    stuff you get in the little plastic pouches has more horseradish than
    wasabi!! But of course you are absolutley correct in your statement that
    wasabi is a very different plant than daikon radish which is not the least
    bit pungent. True wasabi can knock your socks off! It's also very
    difficult to grow, and in all the years that I lived in Japan, never saw a
    wasabi root any thicker than about 3/4 of an inch and 5-6 inches long. The
    daikon we bought several times a week was 2-4 inches thick and often a
    foot long or more! Plus daikon is white, while wasabi is green, as will be
    Paul when he reads this post!

    If it's so "rare" why can I buy it locally when I can't even buy half the
    produce the rest of the country seems to enjoy in abundance? Yukon Gold
    potatoes are hard to find where I live yet it seems they are as common as
    any other potato anywhere else.

    I can get wasabi in 3 inch lengths, about 1/2 to 3/4 inch in diameter.
    Comes in a little open faced cardboard box with clear plastic wrap. And it
    is way pungent. "true" wasabi and "horseradish" are all from the cabbage
    family. It's true color is barely green, it is almost always colored
    artificially. Once grated it loses a great deal of color and turns almost
    white.

    So it's horseradish. Maybe not the best of the best but it's still wasabi
    and wasabi is horseradish.

    Paul

  12. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:22:15 +0700, Steve Kramer
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    But of course you are absolutley correct in your

    Quoted message said:

    statement that wasabi is a very different plant than daikon radish which
    is not the least bit pungent. True wasabi can knock your socks off! It's
    also very difficult to grow, and in all the years that I lived in Japan,
    never saw a wasabi root any thicker than about 3/4 of an inch and 5-6
    inches long. The daikon we bought several times a week was 2-4 inches
    thick and often a foot long or more! Plus daikon is white, while wasabi
    is green, as will be Paul when he reads this post!

    Thanks Steve, for confirming what I knew about wasabi. Not that I
    ever eat it..I am not a big sushi fan. But I do a lot of reading
    about food..and this is what I read. It is NOt readily available..

    Christine

  13. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:22:15 +0700, Steve Kramer
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    But of course you are absolutley correct in your

    Quoted message said:

    statement that wasabi is a very different plant than daikon radish which
    is not the least bit pungent. True wasabi can knock your socks off! It's
    also very difficult to grow, and in all the years that I lived in Japan,
    never saw a wasabi root any thicker than about 3/4 of an inch and 5-6
    inches long. The daikon we bought several times a week was 2-4 inches
    thick and often a foot long or more! Plus daikon is white, while wasabi
    is green, as will be Paul when he reads this post!

    Thanks Steve, for confirming what I knew about wasabi. Not that I
    ever eat it..I am not a big sushi fan. But I do a lot of reading
    about food..and this is what I read. It is NOt readily available..

    Maybe I could send you a couple pounds of the stuff? Nice to know you speak
    from vast experience. Have you ever even made sushi? Have you ever eaten
    it, or did you just read about it in "Shogun?" Would you know what nori is
    whithout doing a Google search?

    Paul

  14. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:26:09 -0700, AyTee <[email hidden]>
    magnanimously proffered:

    Quoted message said:
    notbob said:
    RichD said:

    Where does wasabi come from?

    The wasabi root.

    Quoted message said:

    What is the ginger for?

    To cleanse the palate between bites.

    Quoted message said:

    What are recommended wines with sushi?

    Saki.

    nb

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Rich

    Sparkling wines can work pretty well with sushi. I like sushi with
    Marlborough sauvignon. Sake is probably more traditional, but I know
    little about it, except that sake is not really wine -- more related
    to beer.

    The fermentation process used for sake may have more in common with
    beer than wine. But, IMO, the end result has more in common with wine
    than beer.

    Quoted message said:

    Come to think of it, beer goes great with sushi.

    That's what I usually drink with sushi. But I prefer either good sake
    or a nice, crisp white wine with sashimi.

    --

    una cerveza mas por favor ...

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  15. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:48:41 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe I could send you a couple pounds of the stuff? Nice to know you speak
    from vast experience. Have you ever even made sushi? Have you ever eaten
    it, or did you just read about it in "Shogun?" Would you know what nori is
    whithout doing a Google search?

    Paul

    I doubt you could send me pounds of the stuff. It is just not
    available.. If you have it available like that, then you are
    extraordinary.

    I have eaten sushi..never made it personally. And I do know what nori
    is.

    I do read..reliable sources. Much more so than here on rfc.''''

    Christine

  16. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:48:41 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe I could send you a couple pounds of the stuff? Nice to know you
    speak
    from vast experience. Have you ever even made sushi? Have you ever eaten
    it, or did you just read about it in "Shogun?" Would you know what nori
    is
    whithout doing a Google search?

    Paul

    I doubt you could send me pounds of the stuff. It is just not
    available.. If you have it available like that, then you are
    extraordinary.

    Give it up, already, will ya? Until you said it was "rare" I just assumed
    it was common as dirt. It's right next to the shallots and the packages of
    fresh herbs in my Vons. Usually a half dozen or so boxes, too so we're
    talking maybe 24 ounces - so almost 2 pounds And I'm a guy that can't even
    buy plantains, or any bell pepper other than green or even celery root most
    of the time. I am produce deprived!!! I live in produce hell!!! Most of
    the time I can'teven buy a tomato worth eating. Yet I can buy wasabi 12
    months of the year. Go figure.

    Quoted message said:

    I have eaten sushi..never made it personally. And I do know what nori
    is.

    Yep, I suspected as much. You're honest, if not educated.

    Quoted message said:

    I do read..reliable sources. Much more so than here on rfc.''''

    Try experience. It's even better than books. I've read a boatload of books
    on Indian cuisine from Madhur Jaffrey on down yet I still can't cook decent
    Indian food if my life depended on it.

    Japanese, however, I can hold my own.

    Paul

  17. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:28:41 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Give it up, already, will ya? Until you said it was "rare" I just assumed
    it was common as dirt. It's right next to the shallots and the packages of
    fresh herbs in my Vons. Usually a half dozen or so boxes, too so we're
    talking maybe 24 ounces - so almost 2 pounds And I'm a guy that can't even
    buy plantains, or any bell pepper other than green or even celery root most
    of the time. I am produce deprived!!! I live in produce hell!!! Most of
    the time I can'teven buy a tomato worth eating. Yet I can buy wasabi 12
    months of the year. Go figure.

    You aren't getting real wasabi. It is that rare, beleive it or no. It
    may be next to your shallots, etc..but that isn;t wasabi.

    Read up on it. It is hard to get. The real stuff is hard to get. And
    expensive.

    You are getting fake wasabi, which isn;t that uncommon.

    Christine,who has studied this extensively


  18. Quoted message said:

    You are getting fake wasabi, which isn;t that uncommon.

    Christine,who has studied this extensively

    Hmmm ... interesting.

    So tell me, do you like clam dip?

    Paul

  19. Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Daikon radish is available a lot in this country.
    Wasabi root is not.

    Diakon radish sliced thin is a nice addition to a salad. It thas less heat
    than those red radishes sold in grocery and keeps longer in da fridge. It's
    a nice addition to a plate of sliced onion, cucumber with white vinegar and
    a pinch of sugar and salt that many of us saw every summer as a meal add
    on.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  20. Paul M. Cook said:

    "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:22:15 +0700, Steve Kramer
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    But of course you are absolutley correct in your

    Quoted message said:

    statement that wasabi is a very different plant than daikon radish which
    is not the least bit pungent. True wasabi can knock your socks off! It's
    also very difficult to grow, and in all the years that I lived in Japan,
    never saw a wasabi root any thicker than about 3/4 of an inch and 5-6
    inches long. The daikon we bought several times a week was 2-4 inches
    thick and often a foot long or more! Plus daikon is white, while wasabi
    is green, as will be Paul when he reads this post!


    Thanks Steve, for confirming what I knew about wasabi. Not that I
    ever eat it..I am not a big sushi fan. But I do a lot of reading
    about food..and this is what I read. It is NOt readily available..

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe I could send you a couple pounds of the stuff?

    Good God, man! Would you send me a couple of pounds of the stuff? The
    cost of it in Japan makes it almost prohibitive to purchase. Most
    families buy the powdered stuff (as do the restaurants) and mix up what
    they need, or else purchase it in plastic tubes.

    Quoted message said:

    Nice to know you speak from vast experience.

    I do. 13 years living and working in Japan. Anata no Nihongo ga
    (wa?)hanashimaska? (I've been in Thailand too long. I'm forgetting my
    grammar!) Watashi wa Eigo no kyoshi deshta, Nehon de ju san nen kara.

    Quoted message said:

    Have you ever even made sushi?

    Quite often. In fact, the other night I made a 'fusion cuisine' of
    "Tandori Sushi!" I had some Tandori chicken left over from dinner the
    night before, chopped it up with some more tandori marinade and yogurt
    and rolled it up in rice and nori. Delicious!! However I really prefer
    a Kaitenzushi where I can just keep piling up the plates. There are even
    a couple of them here in northern Thailand now. Wonderful, but without
    the great variety we find in Japan.

    Quoted message said:

    Have you ever eaten it, or did you just read about it in "Shogun?"

    I don't think they mention sushi in 'Shogun.' They do mention sashimi
    though. Tell me, have you ever had duck sushi, or roast beef sushi?
    These are very common in Japan, as is tuna salad sushi, corn salad
    sushi, and in southern Japan, raw horsemeat sushi.

    Quoted message said:

    Would you know what nori is
    whithout doing a Google search?

    You might wish to do a Google search on wasabi.... Wasabia japonica, and
    then do a Google search for Daikon.... Raphanus sativus, then come back
    and tell us that they are the same thing.

    By the way, you'll find that Daikon is also known as Icicle Raddish in
    the US http://www1.neweb.ne.jp/wa/hanagataya/kaji-daikon.jpg because of
    its white color, (this one still has the soil on it, but if you wash it,
    it's quite white,) is somewhat sweet, and a mainstay vegetable in any
    nabe style dish.

    Oh, and wasabi is quite green inside.... I don't know what it is that
    your supermarket is selling but if it's not brownish-green,
    http://static.flickr.com/143/317318744_3db7fc80c8.jpg doesn't have thin
    brown spots around it like a gray birch tree, and doesn't come with a
    bit of the green growing top in it, I'd keep away from it.

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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