Sweeped under the carpet ? Guarantee it !

cameron41 said:

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Well, it's in the papers now, can only promote further discussion & debate.....

Vicious cycle - justice denied
A CYCLIST allegedly run over by a Korean embassy official's wife fears he will become the victim of diplomatic immunity.

Daniel Bennett, 21, yesterday said he had heard nothing from the embassy since the accident five weeks ago left him in hospital with a broken arm, cuts and bruises.

Fellow cyclist Matthew Rex, who was with Bennett as part of an Australian Institute of Sport training squad, was also hospitalised and his $10,000 road bike written off.

ACT police are investigating the March 12 accident which allegedly involved a diplomatic-plated Korean Embassy 4WD.

Bennett said he and Rex were in a group of about 12 cyclists on a training ride on a designated bike path around State Circle near Parliament House in Canberra when the 4WD ploughed into them.

"She [the woman driver] just turned left straight through the bunch of riders," Bennett, who is still nurs- ing a plaster-encased arm, said yesterday.

"Matthew and I were both cleaned up and our bikes were totalled. The woman didn't seem to know what the hell she was doing."

Bennett's bicycle – worth $7000 – was badly damaged and both his helmet and sunglasses destroyed.

He said he had been forced to miss several major races, including a Canberra tour event, and was out of pocket for several hundred dollars in medical expenses.

Bennett said he was worried that the matter would be "swept under the carpet" because the alleged driver was the wife of a diplomat.

"The embassy seems to be ducking for cover and not wanting to take responsibility," he said.

"I haven't been able to ride or work properly. It's cost me money and it's cost me races."

A Korean Embassy spokeswoman said the diplomat whose wife had allegedly been involved in the accident was unavailable and would not be commenting.

An AIS source said police had confirmed the diplomat's wife was at fault but she had "panicked" when she realised the extent of the damage.

The source said there was concern the woman could escape prosecution and that the cyclists would not be compensated.

"The way some of these diplomats drive in Canberra is a real worry for our riders," he said.

An AIS spokesman said: "We are still discussing the matter with the Korean Embassy and police."

cfsmtb said:

Well, it's in the papers now, can only promote further discussion & debate.....

Vicious cycle - justice denied...

snipparge

are diplomat's wives/partners immune too?
what about their brother/sister/mate/cat???

and whyTF are any of em immune, anyway?

flyingdutch said:

are diplomat's wives/partners immune too?
what about their brother/sister/mate/cat???

and whyTF are any of em immune, anyway?

Ah, the usual [censored]. They're really important types, know a high-powered lawywer or two.....

Not forgetting the old chestnut of 'diplomatic immunity'. How many times has that been used (countlessly) in the past?
en.wikipedia.orgDiplomatic immunityOpen ↗

Swept maybe?

"SuperCujo" wrote

Quoted message said:

Swept maybe?

Absolutely. As a confirmed Grumpy Old Man (see ABC Tuesday at 8:00PM) I
couldn't help but feel the need to correct that myself.

BruceA

cfsmtb said:

Ah, the usual [censored]. They're really important types, know a high-powered lawywer or two.....

Not forgetting the old chestnut of 'diplomatic immunity'. How many times has that been used (countlessly) in the past?
en.wikipedia.orgDiplomatic immunityOpen ↗

Diplomatic cars in Canberra. Huuuhh. Used to frighten the life out of me when I lived there inthe 1980s. Then one day we bent our own car. Asked around for the best panel beater to take it to. When we took the car to him, his holding yard was full of bent BMWs and bent Mercs, most of them with the tell-tale blue DC plates on 'em. That scared me even more.

Police could merely ask them to do the right thing. Most of the civilised embassies and high commissions disciplined their people. Many of the 'emerging' nations did not.

Hope the young AIS riders in Canberra get what they deserve (which is compensation, new bikes, helmets sunnies, an apology .......etc). And the embassy should ship the woman home.

SteveA

SteveA said:

And the embassy should ship the woman home.

SteveA

Na, ship her to north korea.

till

flyingdutch said:

are diplomat's wives/partners immune too?
what about their brother/sister/mate/cat???

and whyTF are any of em immune, anyway?

Well all of the above could be true. It reminds me of when i lived in South Korea and got into a little trouble with a Dutch friend of mine. His father was a diplomat and his son had diplomatic immunity also. We played it like i had it too and were both let go pretty quickly. Both received a few bruises that were i admit were rather deserved.

SteveA said:

cfsmtb said:

Ah, the usual [censored]. They're really important types, know a high-powered
lawywer or two.....

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Police could merely ask them to do the right thing. Most of the
civilised embassies and high commissions disciplined their people.
Many of the 'emerging' nations did not.

Hope the young AIS riders in Canberra get what they deserve (which is
compensation, new bikes, helmets sunnies, an apology .......etc). And
the embassy should ship the woman home.

<snip>

I wrote a comment on that site, along the lines of Australian Law
applying outside the embassies so they should get charged.

Tam

SuperCujo said:

Swept maybe?

Yes. Realised my error after posting. Hoped it would ignored. Very deflating given it was first "new" thread.
You could have(you to Brucie) at very the least contributed to the subject matter.

Tamyka Bell said:

SteveA said:

cfsmtb said:

Ah, the usual [censored]. They're really important types, know a high-powered
lawywer or two.....

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Police could merely ask them to do the right thing. Most of the
civilised embassies and high commissions disciplined their people.
Many of the 'emerging' nations did not.

Hope the young AIS riders in Canberra get what they deserve (which is
compensation, new bikes, helmets sunnies, an apology .......etc). And
the embassy should ship the woman home.

<snip>

I wrote a comment on that site, along the lines of Australian Law
applying outside the embassies so they should get charged.

Tam

This time in English:

I mean, so that the bad drivers who cause accidents should have to face
up to Australian law. I didn't mean the cyclists should get charged.
That's probably obvious. Don't mind me, I'm having a vague day.

Tam

"flyingdutch" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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cfsmtb said:

Well, it's in the papers now, can only promote further discussion &
debate.....

Vicious cycle - justice denied...

snipparge

are diplomat's wives/partners immune too?
what about their brother/sister/mate/cat???

and whyTF are any of em immune, anyway?

--
flyingdutch

I think diplomatic immunity sort of evolved as neccessary grease in the BB
of international relations. Most embassies (I believe) are generally very
concious of the purpose it has and try not to abuse it. There's always a few
self-centred gits around though, especially in that sort of environment.

oely <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Both
received a few bruises that were i admit were rather deserved.

Oh come on! What's with this half a story stuff? This sounds interesting,
tell us more please!

[QUOTE>

I think diplomatic immunity sort of evolved as neccessary grease in the BB
of international relations. Most embassies (I believe) are generally very
concious of the purpose it has and try not to abuse it. There's always a few
self-centred gits around though, especially in that sort of environment.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Lived in Canberra for many years. Some embassies send person home before charges laid. Others pay up quietly while others just tough it out and ignore all criticism. You will never know what our pepole are doing in their country and if its seen as a "[censored] for tat" by Dept of Foreign Fairies.

Rule number 1 when driving in Canberra - see a DC plate - give it a wide berth.

Hugh

Ex owner of Merc DC-49 sold at bargain price cause new ppl didnt like colour.

HughMann said:

[QUOTE>

I think diplomatic immunity sort of evolved as neccessary grease in the BB
of international relations. Most embassies (I believe) are generally very
concious of the purpose it has and try not to abuse it. There's always a few
self-centred gits around though, especially in that sort of environment.

Yep. Lived in Canberra for many years. Some embassies send person home before charges laid. Others pay up quietly while others just tough it out and ignore all criticism. You will never know what our pepole are doing in their country and if its seen as a "[censored] for tat" by Dept of Foreign Fairies.

Rule number 1 when driving in Canberra - see a DC plate - give it a wide berth.

Hugh

Ex owner of Merc DC-49 sold at bargain price cause new ppl didnt like colour.[/QUOTE]

Favourite recollection of DC plated vehicle..... Big roundabout at Woden..... Young male in late model DC plated BMW used to go fanging around it every morning with the tail hanging out, tyres squeeling, cutting normal drivers off. Watched this many times from my car or from the bike. Then the first really cold morning...into the roundabout he went at his usual speed. Didn't know there was black ice on the bitumen. Instead of going around, he went straight off the other side, car sideways, eyes wide in surprise/horror/terror. He was lucky that this roundabout had big grassy areas on most sides of it (yes, I know circles don't have sides). He ended in the grass and just stayed there stunned. Quite a few witnesses to this event continued on their way to work with smiles on their faces.

Of course, these things did not always have happy endings. Diplomatic immunity overrides drink driving laws. So some of the bad'uns get behind the wheel when [censored], really [censored]. ...... The Russian embassy's cook, the third secretary and their wives and the young daughter of one of the couples took the Russian Ambassador's 600SL Mercedes out for a fang one rainy night after a big dinner involving much vodka. Wrapped the car around a tree. Boot lid and bonnet were next to each other. Only the little girl survived (sitting in the middle of the back seat). Estimated speed on impact - over 180kph. In a suburban street.

SteveA

SteveA said:

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Quoted message said:

Of course, these things did not always have happy endings. Diplomatic
immunity overrides drink driving laws. So some of the bad'uns get
behind the wheel when [censored], really [censored]. ...... The Russian
embassy's cook, the third secretary and their wives and the young
daughter of one of the couples took the Russian Ambassador's 600SL
Mercedes out for a fang one rainy night after a big dinner involving
much vodka. Wrapped the car around a tree. Boot lid and bonnet were
next to each other. Only the little girl survived (sitting in the
middle of the back seat). Estimated speed on impact - over 180kph. In
a suburban street.

It's nice to see natural selection thinning out the fsckwit genes for
us. Maybe now the little girl will grow up with a brain.

Shame people had to die. Shame people probably didn't get the message.

Tam

"cameron41" wrote

Quoted message said:

Yes. Realised my error after posting. Hoped it would ignored. Very
deflating given it was first "new" thread.
You could have(you to Brucie) at very the least contributed to the
subject matter.

No, couldn't possibly do that. It would completely defeat he Grumpy Old Man
monicker ;-)

Although it is certainly a topic worth grumbling about. It really riles me
how some people will refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions,
seeking one excuse or another to avoid their responsibilities. Diplomatic
immunity . . . give me a break!

BruceA

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:49:11 +1000, Tamyka Bell <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

It's nice to see natural selection thinning out the fsckwit genes for
us. Maybe now the little girl will grow up with a brain.

That behaviour probably isn't genetic, alas.

"BruceA" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

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Although it is certainly a topic worth grumbling about. It really
riles me how some people will refuse to accept responsibility for
their own actions, seeking one excuse or another to avoid their
responsibilities. Diplomatic immunity . . . give me a break!

What? You can claim diplomatic immunity for spelling errors now! Wow, I
must becum ar diplamat rite now!