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  1. Has anybody workouts plans for improving swimming for freestyle 1500m I am searching for techical
    drills; Thanks in advance!

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    Has anybody workouts plans for improving swimming for freestyle 1500m I am searching for techical
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    It's difficult to describe drills in writing. Perhaps you should consider buying the Swim Videos CD
    from Ken Macklaren. His business in in New Zealand but mine got to me in around 10 days. It has a
    good selection of freestyle drills and it's useful seeing them done correctly. the web site is
    www.futuredreams.co.nz

    Hope this helps

    Wayne
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  3. Kellermann Robert said:

    Has anybody workouts plans for improving swimming for freestyle 1500m I am searching for techical
    drills; Thanks in advance!

    An easy to follow book, full of useful analogies, drills, and a comprehensive swimming plan:

    Fitness Swimming by Emmett W. Hines:
    amazon.com104 8666815 -3812700

  4. DrClean said:

    It's difficult to describe drills in writing. Perhaps you should consider buying the Swim Videos CD
    from Ken Macklaren. His business in in New Zealand but mine got to me in around 10 days. It has a
    good selection of freestyle drills and it's useful seeing them done correctly. the web site is
    www.futuredreams.co.nz

    From that site:

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    The Importance of the Swim Leg Triathletes who have been in the game long enough will know only too
    well just how important it is to come out of the water with your competition. Your relative placing
    after the swim leg has an immediate mental effect on you because it determines what calibre of
    athlete you start the bike leg with. The old adage "out of site (sic) , out of mind" has all too
    often allowed a lesser athlete stay away and beat the better athlete who merely had a bad swim.

    Also with the advent of drafting races, if you miss the boat in the first leg of a triathlon then
    your chances of success can be seriously affected. You simply must be there at the start of the bike
    in a drafting legal race or your whole race will be over before you really begin.

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    I think he's over-selling the swim. Swimming better is a worthy goal, but from what I've seen of
    triathlons, whether you can *see* your opponent after the swim means very little. The strong
    cyclists have many miles to catch up to the strong swimmers. And the best cyclists just hope they
    can build up enough of a lead to fend off the strongest runners.

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    Swimming is Technical Now we all know that getting "fit" is a major objective of the training that
    we love to thrash ourselves with every day, and that alone does bring good improvement. But there
    always comes a time with swimming when we do start to plateau out. And at this point no amount of
    volume or intensity seems to allow us to break through. This is when something radically different
    has to be accepted as the solution and the best place to start that process rolling is a technical
    assessment. We need to know where you are now, to move forward.

    Most simply explained, your technique is the ceiling to which your highest level of fitness can take
    you. It is absolutely impossible for you to travel faster in water than your current level of
    efficiency. So if you desire swimming improvement then you need to shift the ceiling upwards.

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    Well, that makes sense to me.

    Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

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    I think he's realy talking of drafting races (i.e. the elites). At that level the poor cyclist gets
    towed with the better cyclists only if they come out of the water with them.

    If the poor swimmer isn't in the first group then they have to expend huge amounts of energy
    catching up to the first group. Two things happen:
    1. they stand a chance of dragging someone up to the first group who won't do the same
    amount of work.
    2. they must suffer from a form of negative mentality, knowing they're working harder than
    those in front.

    This is just a thought of course because I'm not an elite athlete.

    What I've found is that a mixture of the McKlaren videos and your own excelent selection helps
    explain to the swimmer precisely how to practice a set "perfectly" - noting that only perfect
    practice makes perfect. That's really the reason I suggested the video - your own ones are great for
    full stroke analysis but obviously don't show drills.

    Wayne

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    I think he's realy talking of drafting races (i.e. the elites).

    Perhaps, but it sounds as if he is making general comments to me. And I have to admit that legalized
    drafting in triathlons is news to me. With drafting, IMO triathlon becomes a team effort like pro
    cycling. You'll see team members blocking and pulling for a designated leader.

    But thanks for pointing out the site.

    Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

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    I think he's over-selling the swim.


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    I think he's realy talking of drafting races (i.e. the elites). At that level the poor cyclist
    gets towed with the better cyclists only if they come out of the water with them.

    If the poor swimmer isn't in the first group then they have to expend huge amounts of energy
    catching up to the first group. Two things happen:
    1. they stand a chance of dragging someone up to the first group who won't do the same amount of
    work.
    2. they must suffer from a form of negative mentality, knowing they're working harder than those
    in front.

    This is just a thought of course because I'm not an elite athlete.

    What I've found is that a mixture of the McKlaren videos and your own excelent selection helps
    explain to the swimmer precisely how to practice a set "perfectly" - noting that only perfect
    practice makes perfect. That's really the reason I suggested the video - your own ones are great
    for full stroke analysis but obviously don't show drills.

    Wayne

    The guy who runs the website (and company of the same name) and is featured in the videos is Haydn
    Woolley. I swim with his "squads" sometimes.

    He is a former professional triathlete and claims to hold the "unoffcial world fastest ironman swim
    time" (43:30) so knows what he is talking about. Though of course he is also selling his swim
    coaching business so has a vested interest in emphasising the importance of the swim.

    I was reading some other articles from links on the website the other week, this one in particular
    is another perspective on the stroke rate/stroke length debate we often have:
    xtri.comarticle.asp (to the best of my knowledge he does not read this ng but I
    will mention it to him next time I see him if I get a chance).

    Liz D

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