swimming agravations

Aquashere seals XP Pro - mask type goggles. I can swim in these for hours -
never leaked on me.

JJ

"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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is there any caps that will not slowly work themselves loose as I
swim?--tried lyca/latex/silicone

tired of goggles leaking--even the swiss type ( a pain in the ass to get
used to but they are pretty good)

I have a draw full of goggles that leak

isn't there supposed to be goggles that are just held in place by suction?

ilaboo said:

is there any caps that will not slowly work themselves loose as I
swim?--tried lyca/latex/silicone

tired of goggles leaking--even the swiss type ( a pain in the ass to get
used to but they are pretty good)

I have a draw full of goggles that leak

isn't there supposed to be goggles that are just held in place by suction?

By swiss type, do you mean Swedish? I have deep set eyes and these work
the best for me. I always have to adjust them quite a bit and then put
them on just right each time.

Try double capping--I usually use a latex with a lycra over it. With
the latex, get the right size for your head. Do you have a lot of
thick, unruly hair? You might want to get a haircut in that case. My
caps stay on well but my hair is fine and weak.

Another cause of caps moving around is jaw clenching--try not to grit
your teeth when you swim.
Madelaine

There are different goggles made for different types of faces. One type fits
over the outside of the eye area. Another fits inside, slightly under the
brow ridge. Some have foam and others use silicone seals similar to those on
dive masks. You need to try on several types at the store to see which you
like. The Swedish ones fit inside the eye socket area and are adjustable for
wide-set eyes or narrow-set eyes. And, they are for people who don't mind
the slight red marks the goggles press into your skin.

I prefer goggles with silicone seals and lots of peripheral vision
possibilities. I don't like mirrored lenses. I can tell right off which ones
are designed for swim meets and racers and I don't like them too much.
Right now, I am using the really soft ones with the integrated nose
piece--no adjusting the nose area at all. Some people, though, who have eyes
wide apart, like the adjustable nose piece ones.

It all comes down to several choices for you: do you want the fit to be
over the bony area or inside the eye socket? Do you like peripheral vision?
Do you need to adjust the fit between the eyes? Which type of seal do you
like--black foam or flexible silicone?

Go to the shop and try on several. Actually put them up to your eyes and
press gently with your fingers on the vision area. There should be a
suction feel for a few seconds before they fall off. If there is no suction,
you need an adjustment or other goggles. There is a type made by Barracuda
which uses a white foam panel that supposedly molds to your individual face
shape after a few uses. It doesn't use suction at all. I have a pair of
them but I always go back to the suction types. Just don't make your head
band too tight! That is a common mistake people make. It should be just
tight enough to keep the goggles in place.

I don't understand the problem with the caps coming off. It's never been a
problem for me, even in the days when I swam in the German pools and used
those silly polyester caps that are required for their pools.

Pat in TX

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There are different goggles made for different types of faces. One
type fits over the outside of the eye area. Another fits inside,
slightly under the brow ridge. Some have foam and others use silicone
seals similar to those on dive masks. You need to try on several
types at the store to see which you like. The Swedish ones fit inside
the eye socket area and are adjustable for wide-set eyes or narrow-set
eyes. And, they are for people who don't mind the slight red marks the
goggles press into your skin.

I prefer goggles with silicone seals and lots of peripheral vision
possibilities. I don't like mirrored lenses. I can tell right off
which ones are designed for swim meets and racers and I don't like
them too much. Right now, I am using the really soft ones with the
integrated nose piece--no adjusting the nose area at all. Some people,
though, who have eyes wide apart, like the adjustable nose piece ones.

It all comes down to several choices for you: do you want the fit to
be over the bony area or inside the eye socket? Do you like peripheral
vision? Do you need to adjust the fit between the eyes? Which type of
seal do you like--black foam or flexible silicone?

Go to the shop and try on several. Actually put them up to your eyes
and press gently with your fingers on the vision area. There should
be a suction feel for a few seconds before they fall off. If there is
no suction, you need an adjustment or other goggles. There is a type
made by Barracuda which uses a white foam panel that supposedly molds
to your individual face shape after a few uses. It doesn't use suction
at all. I have a pair of them but I always go back to the suction
types. Just don't make your head band too tight! That is a common
mistake people make. It should be just tight enough to keep the
goggles in place.

I don't understand the problem with the caps coming off. It's never
been a problem for me, even in the days when I swam in the German
pools and used those silly polyester caps that are required for their
pools.

Pat in TX

Barracuda's are the only things that work for me, and they work great.
Your advice is right on - try different kinds.

-S-

ilaboo said:

is there any caps that will not slowly work themselves loose as I
swim?--tried lyca/latex/silicone

tired of goggles leaking--even the swiss type ( a pain in the ass to get
used to but they are pretty good)

I have a draw full of goggles that leak

isn't there supposed to be goggles that are just held in place by suction?

I like the silicon caps the best - they stay put pretty well and don't
rip out your hair when you take them off. You might as well get used
to jamming a cap down from time to time as you swim - they all tend to
slide up.

As for goggles, I don't like the competitive types because they're so
streamlined that my eyelashs bump into them when I blink. Streamlined
goggles are useful only if you're trying to shave off hundredths of
seconds from your time, which for most of us is irrelevant. When you
put them on, press them into your face to get a better seal and make
sure the strap is fairly tight. You'll have ring marks around your
eyes, but they'll go away after a bit. I've had good results with
Speedo Hydrospex.

mlw

ilaboo said:

is there any caps that will not slowly work themselves loose as I
swim?--tried lyca/latex/silicone

tired of goggles leaking--even the swiss type ( a pain in the ass to get
used to but they are pretty good)

I have a draw full of goggles that leak

isn't there supposed to be goggles that are just held in place by suction?

Keep in mind that there is an optimum tension for the goggle strap to
maintain a good seal around your eyes. If you make it tighter than the
optimum, the seal may fail near the bridge of your nose, especially if
you are a Klingon.

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Keep in mind that there is an optimum tension for the goggle strap to
maintain a good seal around your eyes. If you make it tighter than the
optimum, the seal may fail near the bridge of your nose, especially if
you are a Klingon.

You are so right! If the goggles are leaving red marks, those straps are too
tight! Get them tight enough to stay on but not so tight they make you
grimace.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Pat
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like. The Swedish ones fit inside the eye socket area and are adjustable for
wide-set eyes or narrow-set eyes. And, they are for people who don't mind
the slight red marks the goggles press into your skin.

I've found that these give me the least noticeable amount of skin
marking as it seems to stay within the eye sockets rather than spread
across my face. Sadly, my facial skin is not as elastic as it once was.

I've tried Aqua Sphere Seals - both the large and small versions, and
various kinds of Speedo goggles, and all have left long-lasting
impressions around my eyes. The bigger the silicone 'skirt', the larger
the area marked.

Another thing about the Seals - they tended to shift when I did tumble
turns. Sometimes their lenses can pop out of the gaskets (though not
usually under normal use in the pool), and they're very difficult to
replace in the frame.

As far as fit is concerned, least effective in my experience have been
Arena goggles, whose foam padding never worked for me. I've not tried
Zoggs.
--
congokid
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I've found that these give me the least noticeable amount of skin marking
as it seems to stay within the eye sockets rather than spread across my
face. Sadly, my facial skin is not as elastic as it once was.

I've tried Aqua Sphere Seals - both the large and small versions, and
various kinds of Speedo goggles, and all have left long-lasting
impressions around my eyes. The bigger the silicone 'skirt', the larger
the area marked.

Another thing about the Seals - they tended to shift when I did tumble
turns. Sometimes their lenses can pop out of the gaskets (though not
usually under normal use in the pool), and they're very difficult to
replace in the frame.

As far as fit is concerned, least effective in my experience have been
Arena goggles, whose foam padding never worked for me. I've not tried
Zoggs.
--
congokid

You might consider that you have the straps 'way too tight for all of the
facial marking.... As for the Seals, I have never had lenses pop out. You
are really rough on your equipment, it seems. You haven't tried the
Barracudas yet. Maybe they're next. People say the Barracuda foam molds to
your facial structure, thus eliminating the need for a suction fit.

Pat in TX

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<[email hidden]> writes

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You might consider that you have the straps 'way too tight for all of the
facial marking....

Too tight that they mark my face, yet not tight enough to keep them in
place during a tumble turn. I gave them up in the end...
--
congokid
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http://congokid.com

congokid said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Pat
<[email hidden]> writes

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You might consider that you have the straps 'way too tight for all of the
facial marking....

Too tight that they mark my face, yet not tight enough to keep them in
place during a tumble turn. I gave them up in the end...

The point is you may well have had them too tight for a tumble turn.
If they are marking your face, that's a sign they are too tight. If
they are marking your face and losing their seal in tumble turns,
they're almost certainly too tight. Remember that lots of people use
them without problem.

ilaboo said:

is there any caps that will not slowly work themselves loose as I
swim?--tried lyca/latex/silicone

tired of goggles leaking--even the swiss type ( a pain in the ass to get
used to but they are pretty good)

I have a draw full of goggles that leak

isn't there supposed to be goggles that are just held in place by suction?

I have problems keeping caps on also, I have a very small head. Maybe
try to find a "junior" size cap and see if this helps. I just put up
with it and yank it back down again everytime I stop. Backstroke is
worst for some reason. I was swimming a 800m race in a pool last year
and had to roll over onto my back & kick while I pulled my cap back on
at one point, or else lose it altogether.

For leaking goggles - make sure that the edge of your cap isn't caught
under the rim of your goggles, this is sure to make it leak. You might
be pulling it down to try and keep it on & getting it in the way.

I also reiterate what others said about goggles - you just have to try
different ones till you find something that suits. For that reason
it's worth starting at the bottom of the price range and working up.
If you swim with a group then ask around if you can try some goggles
from your buddies, or else you could look in the lost property at the
pool or your group and try whatever they have there.

Once you find a pair that suit you then buy several pairs - nothing
more certain that once you find something you like the manufacturer
will either discontinue it or "improve" it which may then not work for
you any more.

Good luck

Liz D

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I have problems keeping caps on also, I have a very small head. Maybe
try to find a "junior" size cap and see if this helps. I just put up
with it and yank it back down again everytime I stop. Backstroke is
worst for some reason. I was swimming a 800m race in a pool last year
and had to roll over onto my back & kick while I pulled my cap back on
at one point, or else lose it altogether.

I have never had this problem. Are you positioning your cap so that it
touches your skin? I always pull mine down on my forehead quite a bit and
then inch it back up until it is comfortable. I pull it down over my ears
and then fold the bottom part back up a bit. I can't stand that tympanic
response to my hearing when the cap totally covers my ears.

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For leaking goggles - make sure that the edge of your cap isn't caught
under the rim of your goggles, this is sure to make it leak. You might
be pulling it down to try and keep it on & getting it in the way.

Whoa! That's 'way farther down on the forehead than I ever pull my cap. That
sounds nerdy!

Pat in TX