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  1. This weekend I rode a century ride that for the last few years has had the
    problem of someone throwing thumb tacks on the road and causing many riders to
    have flats. There were over 50 riders who had flats in just one section of the
    ride. Unfortunately, I was one of them. It's a great ride and I for next year
    I would like to know if there is a tire or liner I can use that can withstand a
    tack. Are the Gatorskins a tough tire?

    Neal

  2. "Neal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    This weekend I rode a century ride that for the last few years has had the
    problem of someone throwing thumb tacks on the road and causing many
    riders to have flats. There were over 50 riders who had flats in just one
    section of the ride. Unfortunately, I was one of them. It's a great ride
    and I for next year I would like to know if there is a tire or liner I can
    use that can withstand a tack. Are the Gatorskins a tough tire?

    Neal

    "The Blue Wonder" aka: "Schwalbe Marathon Plus."

    It's basically got a built in liner. It will absorb and contain a typical
    thumbtack without puncturing the tube.

    http://tinyurl.com/bvxdv (Schwalbe's page on the tire)
    A review on the "BicycleTouring101" website:
    http://www.bicycletouring101.com/InterviewSchwalbeCeleste.htm

    I don't tour in rugged areas yet and there aren't any jerks tossing
    push-pins (tacks) around the roads so I went with the straight "Marathon" -
    no built in liner but for the 500+km I've done on them so far, they've been
    solid.

    Sorry to hear about your flat. I've been extremely lucky - haven't had an
    unexpected one in decades. (I overinflated a cheap tire and had it let got
    at the bead but that was my bad)

    Where do you live that people toss tacks on the road?

    Chris

  3. C.J.Patten said:

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    Where do you live that people toss tacks on the road?

    I don't know if it's Neal's area, but it happens all the time on the
    Old Columbia Gorge Highway just east of Portland. Just yesterday, a
    couple women stopped to pull out a tack in one front tire, just as I
    was leaving Troutdale.

    I should have done the chivalrous thing and stuck around to see if they
    were adequately prepared (they had asked if there was a bike shop in
    town), but I was leading a group and everyone was ready to leave, so we
    left them there. I don't even know if the tack actually punctured the
    tube- it was holding air when we left them.

    Jeff

  4. "C.J.Patten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Neal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    This weekend I rode a century ride that for the last few years has had the
    problem of someone throwing thumb tacks on the road and causing many riders
    to have flats. There were over 50 riders who had flats in just one section
    of the ride. Unfortunately, I was one of them. It's a great ride and I for
    next year I would like to know if there is a tire or liner I can use that can
    withstand a tack. Are the Gatorskins a tough tire?

    Neal

    "The Blue Wonder" aka: "Schwalbe Marathon Plus."

    It's basically got a built in liner. It will absorb and contain a typical
    thumbtack without puncturing the tube.

    http://tinyurl.com/bvxdv (Schwalbe's page on the tire)
    A review on the "BicycleTouring101" website:
    http://www.bicycletouring101.com/InterviewSchwalbeCeleste.htm

    I don't tour in rugged areas yet and there aren't any jerks tossing push-pins
    (tacks) around the roads so I went with the straight "Marathon" - no built in
    liner but for the 500+km I've done on them so far, they've been solid.

    Sorry to hear about your flat. I've been extremely lucky - haven't had an
    unexpected one in decades. (I overinflated a cheap tire and had it let got at
    the bead but that was my bad)

    Where do you live that people toss tacks on the road?

    Chris

    This was in Cartersville Georgia. A really beautiful area for bikes. I hope
    the the person responsible can be found.

    Neal

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  5. Neal said:

    This was in Cartersville Georgia. A really beautiful area for bikes. I hope
    the the person responsible can be found.

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Bah!

    Jeff

  6. Marathon PLUS

    Does the job at the expense of a little weight.

    SW

  7. JeffWills said:

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Don't these things cause flats in car tires as well?

    Jasper

  8. Jasper Janssen said:
    JeffWills said:

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Don't these things cause flats in car tires as well?


    I doubt they'd affect either a car or a motorcycle. They are too short.

  9. On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:34:58 -0600, Paul Cassel <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Jasper Janssen said:
    JeffWills said:

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Don't these things cause flats in car tires as well?


    I doubt they'd affect either a car or a motorcycle. They are too short.

    The ones we have here have spines of about 7-8 mm, I'd guess, which could
    be enough for a worn car tyre, if not a new one.

    Jasper

  10. Steve W said:

    Marathon PLUS

    Does the job at the expense of a little weight.

    I've seen ads for the tires, which look interesting - but I've never
    seen a retail source (in the US, anyway). Any suggestions?

    Mark

  11. "Mark Janeba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Steve W said:

    Marathon PLUS

    Does the job at the expense of a little weight.

    I've seen ads for the tires, which look interesting - but I've never seen
    a retail source (in the US, anyway). Any suggestions?

    Mark

    Hey Mark!

    I ended up calling two-dozen LBS in my town before finding one that dealt
    with Schwalbe. Schwalbe is also more than happy to deal with you directly
    via their website online-store, phone, fax email if you can't find an LBS to
    help you.

    Chris

  12. Mark Janeba said:
    Steve W said:

    Marathon PLUS

    Does the job at the expense of a little weight.

    I've seen ads for the tires, which look interesting - but I've never
    seen a retail source (in the US, anyway). Any suggestions?

    Mark

    I'm pretty sure you can order them online direct from Schwalbe North
    America: http://www.schwalbetires.com/

    Around here (Portland, Oregon), they're available at Coventry Cycles
    and Terracycle- a couple recumbent-oriented places.

    Jeff

  13. On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:08:17 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    JeffWills said:

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Don't these things cause flats in car tires as well?

    Usually not. The shaft isn't long enough to penetrate the typical car
    tire, and they'll usually fold over instead of poking in on those
    anyway.

    One ride route which had problems with this in the past was reportedly
    rendered less problematic by running a vehicle ahead of the lead
    riders with a long magnet bar hanging just above the road surface to
    sweep the pavement of such obstacles.

    Georgia, of course, is in the land of "I'm f**king stupid and proud of
    it!" Nothing short of a massive Ebola outbreak is likely to improve
    the situation IMO.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  14. Mark Janeba said:

    I've seen ads for the tires, which look interesting - but I've never
    seen a retail source (in the US, anyway). Any suggestions?

    I think Schwalbe is popular with the small-wheel crowd (folders,
    Moultons, 'bents). Find a shop that works with one of those and you
    might be in luck.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  15. "JeffWills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Neal said:

    This was in Cartersville Georgia. A really beautiful area for bikes. I hope
    the the person responsible can be found.

    Don't count on it. The Old Gorge Highway has been "tacked" for years.
    They haven't caught the b***ard yet. And that's with lots of media
    coverage, including several sympathetic TV stories.

    Bah!

    Jeff

    I noticed that there is noe such a thing as Slime lite tubes that claim to seal
    a hole up to 1/8". Has anyone ever tried these tubes? Might be worth
    installing just for this one ride.

    Neal

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