Take the nike challenge.

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge
to all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the
equivalent OR BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll
even throw in my guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes
in useful life. Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know
i am right.

Or because we don't give a [censored].

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Elflord said:

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
brands? The asics you mention is about 3x the shoe the nike is. That's
apples and oranges.

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

The equivalent of the nike Streak can be bought at Kmart (their brand)
for $29.99, and it's better built than the nike, and will last twice
as long.

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

The Asics is also much, much lighter at 4.8 ozs, and is a far superior
shoe with gel instead of air (air is nikes favorite because it's free,
and gel costs money. But gel outperforms air in every way) so as I
said you are comparing apples to oranges.
The asics will be around long after the nikes are sold on ebay as
"lots of life left" shoes.

Michelle said:

Or because we don't give a [censored].

I bet your 64YO [censored] is so dry you need KY jelly just to flick your
bean.

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
$69.00 if you search. The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
star rating. As I said, apples and oranges.

Quoted message said:

AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
$69.00 if you search.

Where ?

Quoted message said:

The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
star rating.

What does this mean ?

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Quoted message said:

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
brands?

No other brand has a lightweight flat (<6oz) in their lineup. And no, K-mart
brand doesn't count.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
$69.00 if you search.

Where ?

Sorry I'm not sure. I saw it on one site this morning, but now all I
can find is a 98.00 one at roadrunner sports.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
star rating.

What does this mean ?

Like I know? LOL There were ratings from 1 star (least) to 5 star
(best), and the nike gota 3 star rating, the piranha a 5 star rating.
No matter how it's determined, it is still indicative of what I'm
saying.

Quoted message said:

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Elflord said:

Quoted message said:

Elflord said:

On 2007-08-22, [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Quoted message said:

You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
brands?

No other brand has a lightweight flat (<6oz) in their lineup. And no, K-mart
brand doesn't count.

So you were TROLLING me? You [censored]!
I only mentioned kmart because that's where you can buy the equivalent
of the streaker at.

Quoted message said:

Like I know? LOL There were ratings from 1 star (least) to 5 star
(best), and the nike gota 3 star rating, the piranha a 5 star rating.

OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)

Quoted message said:

No matter how it's determined, it is still indicative of what I'm
saying.

I wouldn't give them much weight.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Elflord said:

OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)

But flats are quite different than trainers. Flats are a minimal shoe,
and since you don't wear them daily, the life expectancy isn't an
issue as much as with a training shoe worn daily. IMHO a flat is a
flat.

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't give them much weight.

You would if they bolstered YOUR arguement. But coincidentally they
rated the nike at about half the shoe the asics is, so they match up
with what I said about it being half the shoe.
I also noticed you didn't address the fact the asics is a far better
shoe just by virtue of having gel compared to air. The "air" [censored]
from nike is really a pisser.

Quoted message said:

Elflord said:

OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)

But flats are quite different than trainers.

Yep.

Quoted message said:

Flats are a minimal shoe,
and since you don't wear them daily, the life expectancy isn't an
issue as much as with a training shoe worn daily.

I agree, but I don't quite understand what your argument is -- are you arguing
that Nikes are an otherwise great shoe with a durability problem ?

Quoted message said:

IMHO a flat is a flat.

Well OK, but some shoe companies have trouble making a true flat (without
"rollbars", medial posts, etc)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't give them much weight.

You would if they bolstered YOUR arguement. But coincidentally they

They could bolster almost any argument, depending on which rating one
cited.

Quoted message said:

rated the nike at about half the shoe the asics is, so they match up
with what I said about it being half the shoe.
I also noticed you didn't address the fact the asics is a far better
shoe just by virtue of having gel compared to air.

The Piranha doesn't have Gel.

Quoted message said:

The "air" [censored]
from nike is really a pisser.

Sometimes less is more

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Elflord said:

I agree, but I don't quite understand what your argument is -- are you arguing
that Nikes are an otherwise great shoe with a durability problem ?

No arguement at all.
My point is that I can't argue short life if it's a racing flat,
because life expectancy isn't an issue with racing flats as much as
trainers. Obviously you only use racing flats at races, which is a
very small percentage of the total miles run in training.
As far as durability goes, I'd say yes, but I don't think I'd call
them an otherwise great shoe, more of an overpriced mediocre shoe with
durability problems. I've simply never worn or tried on a good pair of
nikes. Maybe they are just designed for lighter people, and my 185lbs
is too much for them, but they just don't work for me, and the pairs I
have had just didn't last half as long as other brands. I also came up
injured within a few weeks with every pair of nikes I've worn.
The price of nikes is another issue I have. Too much spent on
advertising instead of making a good shoe.

Quoted message said:

Well OK, but some shoe companies have trouble making a true flat (without
"rollbars", medial posts, etc)

Agreed. BTW the last time I strapped on racing flats was my last
marathon back in the early 80's, so I am defeniately no expert on
racing flats.

Quoted message said:

They could bolster almost any argument, depending on which rating one
cited.

True, and the site I was looking at didn't say what the stars
represented. It could've easily been the most popular selling model,
but I do believe it was a customer rating by how satisfied they were
with that shoe.

Quoted message said:

The Piranha doesn't have Gel.

On this site
http://www.roadrunnersports.com/rrs/products/ASC1275/ it's called
the "gel piranha SP" so I assumed it did have gel.

Quoted message said:

Sometimes less is more

And sometimes less is just cheaper, so it's used instead of gel. I
noticed nike is big on "air" while most other brands use gel, or
another equivelent.

Quoted message said:

Michelle said:

Or because we don't give a [censored].

I bet your 64YO [censored] is so dry you need KY jelly just to flick your
bean.

And this from a guy with a body like yours, so stupid you cam your own
ass, then cam yourself flexing your pathetic muscles, in your [censored]
apartment. And let's not forget that pussified, nerdy Volkswagen face.
Boy, you need a reality check. And how.

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

And this from a guy with a body like yours, so stupid you cam your own
ass, then cam yourself flexing your pathetic muscles, in your [censored]
apartment. And let's not forget that pussified, nerdy Volkswagen face.
Boy, you need a reality check. And how.

--
_________________
Alric Knebel

http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefortress.com

And Bill, I still love your ass too. The hairs, the clingons, the bits
of TP seductively draped over your hemoroids...what's not to love? I'm
not gay Bill, but I admit to be fascinated by your ass to the point of
obsession, and I've decided we must wed, in mass of course where it's
legal. We'll live platonically, and I can just admire that fine ass
from afar.
Your friend in lust,
--
_________________
Alric Knebel

http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefortress.com

Quoted message said:

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

And this from a guy with a body like yours, so stupid you cam your own
ass, then cam yourself flexing your pathetic muscles, in your [censored]
apartment. And let's not forget that pussified, nerdy Volkswagen face.
Boy, you need a reality check. And how.

Quoted message said:

--
_________________
Alric Knebel

Quoted message said:

http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefort...

And Bill, I still love your ass too. The hairs, the clingons, the bits
of TP seductively draped over your hemoroids...what's not to love? I'm
not gay Bill, but I admit to be fascinated by your ass to the point of
obsession, and I've decided we must wed, in mass of course where it's
legal. We'll live platonically, and I can just admire that fine ass
from afar.
Your friend in lust,
--
_________________
Alric Knebel

http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefort...

You are a sick, perverted, creepy, ass-loving, weirdo Knebel. Go away
and die you 145lb punk.